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Savage Journey (1983)

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Savage Journey

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4/10

Educational film like telling of the Mormons' trek to Utah

This is the story of the founding of the Mormon Church and their trek across America to found Utah.

I'm not sure how this will play if you're not a Mormon. To me it seemed like a cross between the old Sunn Classic pseudo documentaries (ie Beyond and Back, In Search of Noah's Ark) and one of the awkward educational films you'd see in school. Yes its informative, but ts not very interesting. It definitely not something that I would ever put on again for enjoyment. Its just sort of is.

Actually the most interesting thing is the casting of Richard Moll as Joseph Smith the founder of the church. The role is so very different than what we know him for, Bull on Night Court and monsters in low budget horror movies, that this is a nice change of pace.

Worth a shot if you're curious but I wouldn't go out of my way to see it.
  • dbborroughs
  • 18 de abr. de 2006
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4/10

Come Come Ye Saints

Savage Journey is the story of the Mormon Church if not from the beginning when Joseph Smith was visited by the Angel Moroni on his farm in Palmyra, New York, it does tell the story from its early days of wandering and persecution until the church settled in what is now the state of Utah. I presume it was made with the full cooperation of the LDS church and made with an audience of non-believers in mind. A kind of Mormon primer.

It certainly is more accurate than the Hollywood classic Brigham Young, Frontiersman that starred Tyrone Power and Linda Darnell back in the day with Dean Jagger as Brigham Young and Vincent Price as Joseph Smith. Though more historically accurate than that one, Savage Journey surely does lack the production values that 20th Century Fox could give it.

The only name familiar to most of us is Richard Moll who was Bull Shannon on Night Court and who played Joseph Smith in the film. It's kind of hard to accept Moll in the part, possibly not his fault, but I kept seeing the intellectually challenged Bull as I watched him. Someone like Vincent Price who was also tall as Joseph Smith was, but who also played cerebral characters when he wasn't scaring us to death on the screen was perfect.

I did enjoy Moll telling the Illinois jailers before he was lynched by a mob that as a prophet he foresaw blood and destruction on the USA within the lifetime of these people. Now I don't think it would have taken any metaphysical insights into predicting the Civil War. Many saw it coming and none of them claimed God as their source of information.

The seminal event of the LDS Church, the one that convinced them that the Deity was giving them a special providence was the sea gulls appearing to eat the locusts that were devouring that first crop of their's in the winter of 1846-47. That part was handled well given the limited budget this film must have had.

Still Savage Journey does not claim to be more than an educational and evangelical tool and it really doesn't rise much above the level of the Christian films from Protestant evangelical churches.
  • bkoganbing
  • 27 de out. de 2010
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4/10

Night Train to Terror crossover!

  • BandSAboutMovies
  • 27 de fev. de 2021
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1/10

A strange science fiction that never delivers

After an apocalypse, the world is in some weird post apocalyptic pioneer era, imagine "Little House on the Prairie" meets " A Serbian Movie". This guy gets tarred and feathered and then ends up being cleaned up by the preachers wife. He then has sex with the older woman and then does the walk of shame, only he can't run far enough to escape his secret cuckholding activities, He goes on the run with Bull from night court, who aids him in his quest to build a utopian society of where men own as many women as they like and breed litters of child laborers. The rest of the people outside of their group are an angry stupid and violent group of survivors that cannibalize their victims. They kill Bull by burning down his quarters forcing him through a window , then they lynch him. The rest of the group wander further west being chased by scavengers and other survivors of the Defcon 5 event. They make friends with a Native American that is so realistic in his appearance and demeanor that you can actually tell your friends that you know a real Native American and can actually call yourself an expert on Indian culture after seeing this film. The utopia is built and Brigham Young becomes their king, until one day, he runs into the Wu-Tang Clan. After a series of fights up to the top of the tower, a battle to the death takes place with the Mormon Masters of Kung Fu. In a violent free for all the marbles, young bites his opponents to death. Triumphant is Young in the 20 minute brutal breakdown a scene that is a must see for for the true Post apocalyptic Mormons. Young rules his land with violent blood reign of kung-fu and swordsmanship that he believes to be prophesized on Golden plates from God, which also supplement as flying guillotines. What this film does so effectively is to give the secular viewer a romanticized story about the the start up of the post apocalyptic society that we know as Utah, which oddly is almost exactly the same as it has ever been.
  • bletcherstonerson
  • 5 de out. de 2015
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1/10

It's About The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the Mormons)

A film I ended up with from Mill Creek's Drive-in 50-pack. This film is not my cup of tea. It's basically like some critics and reviewers say it is a "Mormon Propaganda" flick.

The film basically portrays *almost everyone* as "savages" except the founder of the church Brigham Young. There are very few "good people" in the film and mainly, you know it, Brigham Young. Brigham Young is the only "good and holy" person around.

I'm sorry I don't by into the whole Brigham Young was the only non-savage person and basically the only "good" person around during those years. I'm not falling for this gimmick.

They wanted to portray Brigham Young as a martyr and basically the only person that is "Christ-like" but it comes off as propaganda that I'm not going to swallow.

1/10
  • Tera-Jones
  • 28 de out. de 2015
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5/10

I don't know if you are a prophet of God, but I've seen the Devil's work tonight.

I only about the Mormon Church through the haters that run it today. I have no knowledge of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. I am told that this portrayal is accurate about the early years of the church and of the men.

I only remember Richard Moll as Bull from Night Court. Here, he plays Joseph Smith to a Brigham Young played by Maurice Grandmaison, who also played Brigham Young in the 1977 movie of the same name.

Watching the massacre of women and children at the hands of the rednecks was tough.

The acting was terrible and the production values were decidedly amateurish, but the story was compelling about the struggles of a people who have lost their way.
  • lastliberal
  • 14 de jan. de 2010
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5/10

Sausage Journey

Here's a quick question: Did I watch this because I have an active interest in the Church of the Latter Day Saints or because I'm a moron who just has to watch every film in Mill Creek's Drive In Classics box set? Answer: Only two to go! (now that I've also watched Invasion of the Bee Girls).

So as you should know unless you stumbled upon this page by accident is that this film is the story of the early days of the Mormon Church, what with the Joseph Smith and the….Brigham Young guy? And wee Jimmy Osmond.

Thing is, I didn't hate this one! I didn't think it was great either, but nonetheless it wasn't boring. I'm no god-fearing person (I worship Massimo Vanni) so the 'God will provide' speeches did rankle up my heathen gland, but then again it was interesting to watch how xenophobic and intolerant Americans were even back then. I knew of Joseph Smith but didn't realised he was murdered. Nor did I know that Jimmy Osmond parted the Red Sea and (must think of something funnier and more asinine before posting).

You're not going to be seeking this one out but if you have that box set please know that this isn't the worst film on there (that's Black Hooker, or maybe Who's Killing Her Now).

Or now that I've started watching it, Throw Out the Anchor.
  • Bezenby
  • 11 de out. de 2016
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1/10

Mormon Malarkey

  • StrictlyConfidential
  • 2 de mar. de 2022
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3/10

True, yet poorly executed, story about the formation of the Mormons

Savage Journey tells the story about the original founders of the Church of the Latter-Day Saints as they trek across the United States looking for a home in the 19th century. Persecuted wherever they go, the Mormons end up in the unsettled land that will one day become known as Utah. The drama centres on the two founding members Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

This film is certainly pretty ambitious in scope but it ultimately fails primarily on account of its poor production values which are not good enough to execute such an expansive story. It has to be said that this is a highly biased presentation of the Mormons, which whitewashes such contentious issues such as the groups endorsement of polygamy. The Mormons in this story are shown to be very worthy and good to a level that seems unlikely. The film itself gets plus points for its educational value, yet despite this it's still not exactly very good and simply does not engage the viewer as much as it should.
  • Red-Barracuda
  • 20 de set. de 2016
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8/10

much better than expected

I thought this movie was a pleasant surprise! It doesn't deserve its lowly rating I noted!!! - I assume that's connected to a prevailing dislike for religiousness, too often associated with bigotry & hypocrisy, with good reason!

I have no affiliation to such a church as the Mormons I understand this is centred on! I have also left my own mainstream religion that I intend never to return to!

But what I saw here was an impressive depiction of how hard it can be for a minority that might appear to be a sect to some, to find acceptance in any circumstances! It doesn't matter if someone is a visionary, an inventor, a prophet, or an innocent bystander! Likewise surely for God, whatever you conceive him to be!

Suddenly, you can find yourself in the middle of a storm, having your family threatened or even destroyed, having your property or existence or even letters confiscated, for your trust in God &/or man! While others gossip about you! Or bring on a sea of fireballs in the hands of rednecks, when you are in no position to defend yourselves! It can happen at the hands of a multi-national corporation, something like the slick tobacco or fast-food networks!

I have seen such red-necks & oppressors as portrayed here, as Christians or their adversaries! Equally distasteful! I have seen similar red-necks & oppressors amidst the unbelieving in any form of 'God' they might believe or not believe in! I have witnessed their individual & collective responses without tolerance & with amazing audacity & narrowmindedness!

I didn't know this was about Joseph Smith, only read it on your website later! I'd only vaguely heard of him, & don't even know the difference between the Mormons & the Seventh-day Adventists! But I respect the value of each & countless others from faithful to all manner of visions of God, or their perceptions of such a God, that I have met in churches or temples, to hotels & much beyond! I'm not sorry I watched this movie rated 3.2/10 & would recommend you view it for yourself!

You find both sides of it here! It has drama & action! It is poverty, even desperation! I don't understand why it is judged so poorly, but for the association of many churches to be centred or judged to be based on bigotry & hypocrisy! There's the old-fashioned version of a tels-evangelist (without requests for donations) & a mob of nasty rednecks (who don't like to be challenged in their perceptions) ... so much like the pharisees, while the outcasts & downtrodden were depicted in Jesus' times, variously worthy of condemnation & respect are still to be found!

It's not hard to see how anyone of faith in any belief, on anything from politics to religion, to how the world, could or should be, finding themselves to be a victim here! This deserves a favourable rating! 8/10!
  • spj-4
  • 18 de nov. de 2007
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6/10

Reasonably accurate, dealing with early days of Mormonism

I originally saw this while I was living in Norway. As such, it had Norwegian subtitles across the bottom of the screen. I was, at the time, serving as a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the Mormons).

The two main players in the early days of the church were Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Joseph Smith was the founder of the church, and Brigham Young later took the reins after his death, leading the members of the church to modern-day Utah. This movie deals with these early days of the church.

Brigham Young was well portrayed. Everything I've read about the man says this portrayal was spot-on. At first, I thought Joseph Smith had been miscast. I mean, come on: Richard Moll (who plays Joseph Smith) is better known as "Bull" Shannon on "Night Court." In retrospect, it's not that far off. The real Joseph Smith was well over six feet tall, and was generally known for being a very gentle person.

The early persecution of the church, and the subject of polygamy are dealt with head-on, and accurately.

All-told, a decent movie, carried by the strength of the stories and the portrayals. The budget is pretty low, so don't expect too much flash.
  • tmchesser
  • 28 de jan. de 2006
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7/10

Odd But Interesting

Savage Journey is an interesting and ambitious, though somewhat amateurish and turgidly acted history of the Mormon faith from the meeting of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith, through the days of violent oppression in Missouri and Illinois, to the trek west and the founding of Salt Lake City.

Made (I assume) with the cooperation of the LDS church, the film's decidedly pro-Mormon and thus not very objective, but it doesn't get too preachy, making it accessible to "gentile" viewers such as myself. It is sometimes pretty corny. (like the film's final scene)

Richard Moll is pretty hard to take serious as LDS founder Joseph Smith. With his imposing look and shaggy black hair (I'm used to seeing him on "Night Court".) he looks more like a scary "fire and brimstone" preacher than a wise and gentle prophet.

I'm surprised that something this frequently amateurish film is written and produced by Hollywood veteran Phillip Yordan and that the director of this fundamentalist Christian production is also responsible for the nudie movie Wilbur And The Baby Factory!
  • FightingWesterner
  • 3 de set. de 2009
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7/10

"All I've got is the days of my life. How do I make them mean something"?

  • classicsoncall
  • 11 de mar. de 2011
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Not Very Savage...

Don't let the title fool you, this isn't some action-packed thriller. In fact, SAVAGE JOURNEY is a rather dull account of the origin of Mormonism. Richard Moll plays Joseph Smith, who is tarred, feathered, arrested, and eventually lynched. There's pretty much one disaster after another for the early Mormons.

Brigham Young takes over for Smith, encountering plenty of tragedies himself, including a swarm of locusts and gaggles of backward yahoos with murder on their tiny minds.

If this movie had been as interesting or exciting as the actual history, it might have been more than a G-rated sleeping aid...
  • Dethcharm
  • 20 de jun. de 2022
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