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Within (2005)

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Within

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2/10

Bad Cave

The Cavern: 2 out of 10: Blair Witch meets The Cave and gives me a headache.

I have something to ask all film schools, could you please teach future directors how to hold a camera steady. Flailing the camera around like Aunt Betty with 12 drinks is headache inducing.

Also film is primarily a visual medium directors may want to point their camera's in the general direction of the action. Film also requires light to work. Perhaps a light source should be employed so one can see the action on the screen. I know it is a cave movie but there is absolutely nothing frightening about watching pitch blackness for minutes at a time.

For that matter showing the film upside down doesn't indicate confusion on screen it indicates confusion in the editing booth.

A last note to the director I'm sure there was a good reason to have a horribly fake CGI campfire. I honestly can't for the life of me think of one.

Now on to the screenwriter. Try to make at least one character likable. I'd prefer two or more but one decent person I can root for or care about might help. Also if you are going to have flashbacks make them relevant to the story.

If you are going to have a surprise ending it is probably best if it doesn't contradict every single thing that comes before it. And try adding some fancy spelunking terms to a cave movie. You might have wanted to start with spelunking.

The Cavern is a pretty bad film, poorly shot with a confusing, improbable and anticlimactic ending.
  • juliankennedy23
  • 25 de nov. de 2006
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3/10

Some good stuff, more bad stuff

  • wrlang
  • 4 de ago. de 2006
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2/10

A lot of screaming and panicking, some jerky camera movements, and that's about it.

What a shocker. For starters, I couldn't stand the constant screaming and noisy panicking all the time. It didn't make me scared, horrified, or make me sympathetic towards the characters; it was simply annoying. The jerky camera movements were also annoying. The plot was the same as pretty much every other cheap horror. There was a few pathetic attempts to give the characters some depth, but it didn't really work into the rest of the plot. And then there's the ending. I'm still not really sure what to make of it. I guess it was supposed to be clever twist, then shed some light on the situation, but it was just stupid.

The case had a couple of those little award winner/nominations symbols on it, so I figured it couldn't be too bad. I was wrong. If you see it, you should probably just leave it on the shelf.
  • soupisgoodfood
  • 25 de out. de 2006
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1/10

A Realistic Portrayal of a Really Bad Movie

  • lexcollins
  • 4 de set. de 2006
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1/10

My First Post At The IMDb

My first post at the IMDb has to (unfortunately) be to warn others not to waste their time with The Cavern! There is no story, no character development, no scares, and no good lighting. It doesn't make any sense. If you enjoy bad acting, people running through small portions of caves, bouncing cameras posed at bad angles, and people screaming while the screen is in complete darkness, you'll love this movie. I could shut the lights off in my house and scream too, and I wouldn't have to pay for the rental. The only thing that scared me was that someone actually made a movie this awful.

... one of the worst movies I've ever rented.
  • jthnotes
  • 5 de set. de 2006
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1/10

Blah and Boring!

The movie goes something like this: Run around, run around, someone killed, lots of freaking out and then one of the group yells to "Pull it together" or "Just calm down!" Repeat this as many times as their are characters left. In between these things, you get to enjoy blank, black screen. These are not quick but rather several seconds long. I kept thinking what a waste of film every time it happened - yes, it does happen more than once if you can believe it.

I notice other mentioned "Blair Witch: and it did remind me of that in the way the camera was bouncy. However, this movie takes that to the extreme. Every single time the characters move the camera is bouncing. Sometimes so much that you can't make heads or tales as to what you are looking at. That brings us to lighting. Way too dark in some areas. I get that they are trying to make us feel like we are in a cave, but Helllloo... I'm watching a movie here, it would be nice to be able to see.

Then there is the ending. I actually blurted out loud, "Are you kidding me?!" (I was watching alone too). Dumb, dumb. I think the ending was purely the effort of the people who made this disaster to shock us after so much time of boredom with a so called "twist". At this point of the movie you could have seen the "monster" picking his nose and it would be considered a "twist". Truly horrible. You have been warned.
  • nlkline06
  • 7 de ago. de 2006
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1/10

Possibly the worst movie I ever saw. Dark does not equal scary.

Possibly the worst movie I ever saw. The person who shot this movie probably never learned not to film directly into a shining light. You can't see anything in this movie. It is way to dark. The parts where you can see something the camera is directed straight at a light source so you get big lens flares. So you still can't see. This movie should have been a radio play or something. Some parts of the movie are actually edited upside-down for some kind of crap effect. Low budget movies can be done so much better then this. And low budget is no excuse for this. An editor should have said something when he started editing and saw that you couldn't see anything. Maybe the makers should have spend some of their low budget on a preview monitor so they could see what they shot. The only good thing about this movie being so dark is that you can't see the awful acting. It also covers up the crappy sfx. People at beginner film schools make better movies then this. Movies shot with handy cams look better then this.
  • webmaster-2553
  • 7 de out. de 2006
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1/10

Son of Eegah!

There seems to have been some money behind this film, but it would be impossible to imagine a film this badly planned and executed if I hadn't actually started watching it.

To begin with, once we are in the cavern with the characters (the usual young adult stereotypes we've been meeting in horror films since the early '80s), the film is shot almost entirely in close-up. Since the actors are wearing helmet lights, this means all we see are glaring lights alternating with utter darkness - we never get to see what the characters see; so when they shout out "Look there!" we are left to beg "What?! Where?!". Ultimately the film has a nauseating, confusing strobe-light effect, with no sense to it until we get to the end.

And I won't tell you what 'the end' means - but you will recognize it if you've ever seen the old early '60s Arch Hall laugh fest"Eegah!" with Richard Kiel.

But what crazy person would ever want to make a variation on a theme like "Eegah!"'s, long remembered as one of the worst films ever made?! But that's what we have here, folks. Except that, unlike "Eegah!", "The Cavern" is not anyone's idea of goofy fun. It is unwatchable. (I ran it at x2 the normal speed, just to get it over with, hoping I would actually be able to see something by the end of the film; but when I did, it was just stupid.) This film did provide me with one satisfying moment, though; since it only cost a couple bucks, after I got it out of the DVD player, I was able to smash it with my own hands - what a relief!
  • winner55
  • 7 de dez. de 2007
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1/10

Saw it for free and still want my money back.

Horror films are a curious thing, sometimes they manage to stumble across a formula that works very well, sometimes they try valiantly to tell a worthy story despite time and budget problems, sometimes they're so bad they're actually kinda fun...and sometimes they're "The Cavern".

A good horror/suspense film should contain vagaries that keep you guessing, they should allow you to be interested in the characters and their motivations so that you actually have some sort of reaction when they die. However, The Cavern chooses instead to introduce elements that work at first, only to be negated by it's own lackluster storytelling.

All the characters are completely forgettable and any actual back story that might make any of them even remotely interesting is blurted out within a 30 second monologue, making it impossible to do anything more than laugh as characters are picked off almost at random and on more than one occasion in the least possibly frightening way.

(To spoil a scene a bit, one victim is taken during a complete blackout which might have been a little frightening if the sound effect used to indicate his killing wasn't reminiscent of stirring a pot of too thick Macaroni and Cheese) Add to this formula the camera that work makes me think the director saw one too many Nine Inch Nails videos and an ending which in an attempt to be shocking serves almost no purpose but to annoy and confuse the viewer and you have an almost completely unwatchable horror film that fails on every level.

I'll be honest with you, if you want a claustrophobic caving horror movie go watch "The Descent", and I feel weird saying that because I didn't particularly enjoy that movie either.
  • dantewyrmfoe
  • 1 de jan. de 2007
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1/10

Worst

  • jbp32
  • 29 de set. de 2006
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9/10

I'm not sure what the guy above was smoking but this is good

Crap Con. above probably frequents Michael Jackson's fun house. This movie was pretty decent, unlike that p.o.s. The Cave which was an over-produced pile of ass that doesn't deserve to be called a horror movie. The camera work was interesting and I'll agree a bit like The Blair Witch, but interesting nonetheless. The director definitely conveys a sense of tension and paced the movie quite well, since there is rarely a slow moment. The ending was interesting though I don't think it was the best "explanation". Don't get me wrong, this movie is well worth watching. It is one of the better horror movies I've seen this year. The gore effects have to be in homage to the early works of Peter Jackson, even the foley sound effects are reminiscent of Bad Taste/Dead Alive.

It seems there have a been a handful of cave movies in the horror genre in the past year. The Cave is by far the worst of them - you'd be better off watching The Boogens while sitting on the lap of a felon. The Cavern is damn good though it lacks in a few areas. The Descent is by far the best of these movies even though it starts off really slow.
  • sixcents
  • 15 de jul. de 2006
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7/10

Realistic portrayal of a cave environment

It was refreshing to finally see a movie where the inside of a cave is portrayed realistically! I am an ex-caver (spelunker), and for them to get the shots they did using the little light that comes from lanterns in a cave was amazing (without using back-light that was obvious). It drives me nuts to see cave movies where large areas of the cave are lit enough to see using mere flashlights and headlamps. At best, you get a spot that you can pan around; even with the best of lamps. With all the humidity, you need a focused beam, not a wide angle. With a wide angle you can see about four feet. Regarding previous comments; there were no lens flare effects! Caves are humid. They swallow up light, and what you see in this movie is exactly what it is like in a cave. Amazingly black. It can be terrifying in a cave. Even in cramped areas, the angles of the surfaces do not reflect light directly, but rather dissipate it, even when wet.

That being said, I don't think they had room to get any better action shots than they did. The movie brought to me a true nostalgic sense of the cave environment, with a wonderful twist of terror. Yes, there was a lot of screaming. I guess people do that when they're afraid! The monster is cheesy, but it is explained in the end and makes sense. The end could have been fleshed out better; but all in all, it was a fun ride while it lasted.

I would recommend this rental for anyone who wants to understand what it is like to go caving without the benefit of stage lighting. Watch it in the dark too. When I rented it, it was called "Cavern".
  • pcselect
  • 23 de jul. de 2006
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1/10

Absolutely the worst "film" I've ever seen

  • Pesaz
  • 29 de jul. de 2007
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1/10

0/10 Absolute Garbage

  • jonsefcik
  • 31 de jan. de 2018
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2/10

One of the worst I've seen

  • ridesupondragons
  • 6 de out. de 2006
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1/10

People are unfairly voting this movie a "10".

  • worldofjohnboy
  • 21 de fev. de 2007
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1/10

Piece O' Crap!!!

  • ldb12_
  • 30 de ago. de 2006
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1/10

Stop screaming he will hear you!

This must be one of the worse movies that I have ever seen. On a par with Blair Witch and just as annoying. The flashing helmet lights made things difficult to see and I think that epileptics should take heed as there are moments with strobing that makes this movie even more annoying. I think if they had been quieter they might have found a way out. Then when you think the geek might come up trumps even he resorts to a nervous breakdown. Oh and when is the guy who is having sex realise that when the girl says she can hear something. She Can Really Hear Something. One of these guys must have at least seen Scream (where they draw your attention to such things) It is also a big let-down when a premise offers so much promise and then someone writes the script. So sorry folks I got this on weekly at the video shop and I would still like my money back.
  • Cemetarygirl
  • 5 de fev. de 2007
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2/10

Seriously Lacking

A virtual carbon copy of The Cave save for a fewer lower budget effects and a slightly different plot. I knew the movie was going downhill when I saw the fake campfire flikering lights clearly reflected in a facial close up of one of the actors. The conflicts between characters and subplots seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever, and added nothing to the film except fewer moments of silence. The acting wasn't as bad as the typical B movie, and there was some believability in their fear, but as professional cavers, they seem to be too psychologically unstable for their chosen profession. Overall not worth wasting $4.50 to rent.
  • Tiberius_8860
  • 11 de jan. de 2007
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2/10

Don't even bother

  • funkychickabe
  • 29 de set. de 2007
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9/10

Is it really 150k? Not bad at all.

I read on the message board that this movie was only 150k??? That takes my breath away, 'cause it doesn't look it. I read that some people complained about the shaky camera's and the flashlights, but I must say this is what I loved about the movie -- I mean loved! It was so real, it didn't look like one of those movies where some how the whole cave is lit up with a couple of flashlights like in The Cave. And the shaking messed with my brain, I can't remember a movie that was this shaky! Blair witch wasn't even close. And the shake wasn't like this. This movie scared the s$%$^ out of me. I really enjoyed it, and highly recommend it for rent. But I'm just wondering if they really made it for 150k. That seems really cheap, it didn't look like it at all.

I liked this movie a lot, I'd buy it.
  • kitanasur
  • 23 de jul. de 2006
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7/10

Really, really, liked this movie.

  • househouse
  • 14 de jul. de 2006
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1/10

Horrifying and Sick

I consented to watching this movie with a group of friends despite my extreme dislike for horror movies. However, it was not the shock of a monster that turned me off this movie, it was the horrendous acting and absolutely disgusting ending. Within, or the Cavern, has no redeeming qualities- it is poorly made, laughably scripted, sickeningly bloody and the inclusion of the gratuitous final scene repulses me. No, it is not my dislike for horror movies that makes me hate this film-I've seen such wonderful teen horrors as "House of Wax", its the fact that the film leaves you with the awful understanding that by renting the video, you are supporting the creators of Within
  • alotofpeaches
  • 5 de ago. de 2007
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2/10

So bad it was hilarious

  • Dave Addo
  • 8 de jan. de 2007
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1/10

Warning, people with epilepsy.

It's not that bad if you keep in mind this movie wasn't made for humans' viewing, it was made for brain-damaged gerbils. My DVD player froze part-way through and it took me a little while to realize it wasn't another misguided special effect. Probably better in a dark theater on lots of drugs. Skip this, rent "Snake Island" if you want a quality B movie. If you want a good cave movie, just see The Descent. I am not impressed that this was made on a low budget. It doesn't take money to write a decent script, it just takes brains. Suspicion: no script was ever written, all lines were ad-libbed. PS: wearing dark glasses while watching it will not impact the quality of the film AT ALL.
  • hankpanties
  • 26 de ago. de 2006
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