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The Treaty

  • Filme para televisão
  • 1991
  • 1 h 47 min
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The Treaty (1991)
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaIn 1921, the Anglo-Irish Treaty between the unrecognised Irish Republic and the British government is concluded after high-stakes negotiations.In 1921, the Anglo-Irish Treaty between the unrecognised Irish Republic and the British government is concluded after high-stakes negotiations.In 1921, the Anglo-Irish Treaty between the unrecognised Irish Republic and the British government is concluded after high-stakes negotiations.

  • Direção
    • Jonathan Lewis
  • Roteirista
    • Brian Phelan
  • Artistas
    • Brendan Gleeson
    • Patrick Condren
    • Ian Bannen
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    7,8/10
    198
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    • Direção
      • Jonathan Lewis
    • Roteirista
      • Brian Phelan
    • Artistas
      • Brendan Gleeson
      • Patrick Condren
      • Ian Bannen
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  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
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    Brendan Gleeson
    Brendan Gleeson
    • Michael Collins
    Patrick Condren
    • Liam Tobin
    Ian Bannen
    Ian Bannen
    • David Lloyd George
    Julian Fellowes
    Julian Fellowes
    • Winston Churchill
    Malcolm Douglas
    Malcolm Douglas
    • Harry Boland
    Dave Duffy
    • Joe McGrath
    Joshua Losey
    • Roadblock Captain
    Richard Michaelis
    • Roadblock Sergeant
    Liam O'Callaghan
    • Sir Henry Wilson
    Anne Byrne
    • Frances Stevenson
    Tim Wylton
    Tim Wylton
    • Tom Jones
    Barry McGovern
    • Eamon de Valera
    John Warner
    • King George V
    Wesley Murphy
    • British Civil Servant
    Mal Whyte
    • Colonel
    Alan Stanford
    • Lord Birkenhead
    Alan Barry
    • Austen Chamberlain
    David Carey
    • Austin Stack
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      • Brian Phelan
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    8Blogg_joe

    USA first to leave the Empire, Ireland, via The Treaty were next

    Does an excellent job of explaining the impossible task Irish negotiators had in London, in 1921, in their negotiations with the British Government.

    The Irish, after hundreds of years of trying to gain Independence, had finally got the British to the negotiation table. After a bloody war of Independence, a Truce was called with the British. Could the Irish get what they fought for; a Republic, independent of the British Empire ?

    For the British, the danger was if they gave one colony Independence, it might encourage other colonies to seek Independence also, and risked breaking up the British Empire. Thus, removal of an oath of loyalty to the British King was a non-negotiable condition.

    To complicate matters,the majority of citizens in the North East of the island, (in the Province of Ulster), did not want Independence.

    As if the situation was not complicated enough, Ireland's political leader (Eamon De Valera), refrained from directly taking part in the negotiations (and instead sent a reluctant soldier/politician, Michael Collins instead).

    This muddied the waters as to who was the decision makers on the Irish side were (the negation team in London, or De Valera back in Dublin) ?

    When the British team (led by Prime Minister Loyd George), finally made their "sign the Treaty tonight, or the British Government will declare outright war" ultimatum, late one night, the Irish team in London were in an impossible situation. This movie captures the events, in a fair and balanced way (from both the Irish and British sides).

    The excellent movie is surprisingly hard to get (not even on for sale, or rent on Amazon). Fortunately, it is available for free on YouTube. The picture quality is a bit fuzzy, but still wort watching.

    Note: For anyone interested in the War of Independence, which preceded the Treaty, check out the movie: The Wind that shakes the Barley.
    8clonion

    Infinitely better than 'Michael Collins'

    For those who are interested in modern Irish history - this is for you. It gives the details of the Treaty which ended the War of Independence between Ireland and Britain, which, dry though it sounds, is interesting. It has been well scripted, and superbly acted. It is ironic to consider that here, Brendan Gleeson plays Michael Collins, and in 'Michael Collins'(1996) only the sidekick. Liam Neeson doesn't do the character justice, Brendan Gleeson does. He looks a lot like Michael Collins, and from eyewitness accounts, behaves a lot like him as well. Another interesting point about this film is that it is almost all factually accurate (my sole quibble would be the interplay between Michael Collins and Lloyd-George's wife (I hope that's correct, its a while since I have seen it, sorry if it's wrong)) If you are going to rely on a film for historical accuracy, then please use this as opposed 'Michael Collins'
    8poc-1

    Watch this and you might learn something

    This is a historical drama about the treaty negotiation of 1921 that founded the Irish Free State in 1922, later to become the Republic of Ireland. I found it fascinating for two reasons. Firstly it is striking how the two parties locked horns over words and issues which are totally irrelevant today. The importance of the oath of allegiance to the King and the notion that Ireland remain part of the "empire". How stupid it all was looking back. The really important parts, about protecting the rights of minorities and avoiding civil war, seem to be only minor issues to both sides. The Irish Nationalists were obsessed "Irish Freedom" and the British with their "Empire".

    The second reason I found it interesting is that it is an object lesson on how negotiations work. There is of course an inevitable comparison with Neil Jordan's epic "Michael Collins". In terms of budget, actors and drama "The Treaty" does not come close. However in terms of historical accuracy and educational value this is a far superior film. I found Jordan's film was far too coloured by his views on the Northern Ireland conflict. He took too much liberty with the historical facts. Watch "The Treaty" and you will learn far more about the events and people of the time.
    10busterkeaton11731

    A Free State

    Brendan Gleason seems to come closer to the image of Michael Collins I got from reading Tim Pat Coogan's biography of the Irish leader then Liam Neeson's turn in Niel Jordan's biopic.While this film,an RTE/BBC co-production didn't have anywhere near the budget of Jordan's film it's producers did a first rate job none the less.The acting is quite good,and the resemblance of Ian Bannen to David Lloyd-George is remarkable!The discussion he has with DeValera about the translation of the Irish word "phoblacht" is interesting,as Lloyd-George was a Welshman,a Celtic group who've managed to keep THEIR Gaelic tongue alive and kicking.All in all while this film hasn't the big screen glamor of "Michael Collins",it is less about the legend of the "Big Fellow", and much closer to the real man.Anyone interested in how modern Ireland came to be should see this film.
    fenianbritt

    For Further Collins Info

    I purchased the DVD through the Collins 22 Society on the web. I think both Neeson and Gleeson portrayed Collins well. Gleeson was lucky enough to work with writers who portrayed Collins' intellectual side better. It's hinted at in "Michael Collins." The list of noteworthy Irish and British actors is impressive, and Doyle is excellent as the leader (as said in an earlier post--yes, Griffith was the leader) of the delegation.

    It would take a 10 part series to properly include all the intrigue, side deals, secret meetings, and counter-intelligence involved in that short period of time. This film does well in giving the essence, if not the details, of the time.

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      Brendan Gleeson (Michael Collins) would later play Liam Tobin in Michael Collins, o Preço da Liberdade (1996).
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      Molly Malone
      aka "Cockles and Mussels"

      Written by James Yorkston

      Performed by Ian Bannen

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 5 de dezembro de 1991 (Irlanda)
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      • Irlanda
    • Idioma
      • Inglês
    • Locações de filme
      • Carton House, Maynooth, County Kildare, Irlanda
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      • Raidió Teilifís Éireann (RTÉ)
      • Thames Television
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