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Fora da Jogada

Título original: Eight Men Out
  • 1988
  • 10
  • 1 h 59 min
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7,2/10
23 mil
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Fora da Jogada (1988)
A dramatization of the Black Sox scandal when the underpaid Chicago White Sox accepted bribes to deliberately lose the 1919 World Series.
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Dramatização do execrável "escândalo da meia preta", de 1919, quando oito jogadores do Chicago White Sox conspiraram com apostadores para entregar o campeonato de beisebol.Dramatização do execrável "escândalo da meia preta", de 1919, quando oito jogadores do Chicago White Sox conspiraram com apostadores para entregar o campeonato de beisebol.Dramatização do execrável "escândalo da meia preta", de 1919, quando oito jogadores do Chicago White Sox conspiraram com apostadores para entregar o campeonato de beisebol.

  • Direção
    • John Sayles
  • Roteiristas
    • Eliot Asinof
    • John Sayles
  • Artistas
    • John Cusack
    • Clifton James
    • Jace Alexander
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    7,2/10
    23 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • John Sayles
    • Roteiristas
      • Eliot Asinof
      • John Sayles
    • Artistas
      • John Cusack
      • Clifton James
      • Jace Alexander
    • 104Avaliações de usuários
    • 55Avaliações da crítica
    • 71Metascore
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    John Cusack
    John Cusack
    • Buck Weaver - The Team
    Clifton James
    Clifton James
    • Charles Comiskey - The Owners
    Jace Alexander
    Jace Alexander
    • Dickie Kerr - The Team
    Gordon Clapp
    Gordon Clapp
    • Ray Schalk - The Team
    Don Harvey
    Don Harvey
    • Swede Risberg - The Team
    Bill Irwin
    Bill Irwin
    • Eddie Collins - The Team
    Perry Lang
    Perry Lang
    • Fred McMullin - The Team
    John Mahoney
    John Mahoney
    • Kid Gleason - The Team
    James Read
    James Read
    • Lefty Williams - The Team
    Michael Rooker
    Michael Rooker
    • Chick Gandil - The Team
    Charlie Sheen
    Charlie Sheen
    • Hap Felsch - The Team
    David Strathairn
    David Strathairn
    • Eddie Cicotte - The Team
    D.B. Sweeney
    D.B. Sweeney
    • 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson - The Team
    James Desmond
    • Smitty - The Writers
    • (as Jim Desmond)
    John Sayles
    John Sayles
    • Ring Lardner - The Writers
    Studs Terkel
    Studs Terkel
    • Hugh Fullerton - The Writers
    Richard Edson
    Richard Edson
    • Billy Maharg - The Gamblers
    Michael Lerner
    Michael Lerner
    • Arnold Rothstein - The Gamblers
    • Direção
      • John Sayles
    • Roteiristas
      • Eliot Asinof
      • John Sayles
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    9active18yos

    Great Eight

    Although I generally agree with Roger Ebert's reviews, I just can't understand how he was annoyed enough with this movie to give it a measly two stars. He claims that there wasn't enough exposition. I found everything explained satisfactorily, even for the non-fan or baseball history buff. And it is period-piece film-making at its finest. I cannot imagine a better telling of this story. And the baseball action is excellent. One factual error, though: Bucky Weaver (John Cusack) would never mention Babe Ruth as better (or even comparable) to Cobb, Speaker and Wheat in 1919 or 1920. It shocks me that Sayles kept that line. USA Today heralded "Eight Men Out" as the greatest baseball movie ever, and though there is some fine company, I find it hard to disagree.
    8snazel

    Interesting Film for all Baseball Fans

    Eight Men Out provides a "Reader's Digest" version of the complicated events surrounding the 1919 World Series.

    If you forgive the fact the film has to simplify certain aspects of the conspiracy in order to make the film easier to digest, then you will find that Eight Men Out is a worthy film and in the category of "baseball movies" it's one of the best.

    There are anachronisms in the film here and there, the worst of which is Buck Weaver's question asking which of the lawyers was the "Babe Ruth" of law. Sure Babe Ruth was coming into his own by 1920, but most ballplayers in that era would not have place Ruth in the class of Cobb, Tris Speaker or Walter Johnson. For baseball fans, this line in particular really comes off as shallow, especially since the rest of the film really tries to capture the "dead-ball" era. For the most part though, this film feels and sounds a lot like America right after World War I ends, a fascinating time and place.

    Studs Terkel steals the show in my estimation. His character in the film is not far from whom he is in real life and his authenticity is undeniable. John Sayles is a little stiff by comparison and his singing in the railway car (which according to legend did actually happen), is rather difficult to bear. None the less, his direction makes up for his foibles as an actor.

    Straitharn is another gem in this movie, and once again this actor seems to get right to the soul of the characters he is given to play. Eddie Cicotte's dilemmas are written all over Straitharn's face in every scene, he's also given some of the best dialog in the film. Cusack plays his part well, despite the fact that many of his scenes are reduced to clichés. Cusack's best moments are when he is frustrated about his inclusion in the conspiracy trial, despite the fact he gave his all to try and win the series. His outbursts in the courtroom seem perfect, as if drawn from the trial transcripts themselves.

    Joe Jackson is given unfair treatment. If "Field of Dreams" mythologizes Jackson to point of hyperbole, "Eight Men Out" plays up his illiteracy with too much of a heavy hand. Joe Jackson wasn't stupid, indeed if you read his last major interview before he died, he speaks about the "Black Sox" with great alacrity and clarity. He was not as ignorant as this film would have you believe. One day someone will produce a film about Joe Jackson, that will portray him accurately, but Eight Men Out is not that film.

    Although their roles are very minor, Kid Gleason and Ray Schalk are really well played and written. These two went through a very difficult time during the series, and this is well demonstrated. One minor beef is that Nemo Leibold, Shano Collins and other players outside of the conspiracy are never touched upon at all. This is understandable to a degree given the relatively short length of the film, despite the complexity of the subject matter.

    The baseball scenes themselves are well done. The bats, balls, gloves and uniforms look like the equipment of that era and the ballparks are successful mock ups for the most part. There are even a couple of nifty athletic displays in the outfield that must have taken several takes to pull off.

    Overall, this is my second favorite baseball movie, next to "Bull Durham". Its a little light on some of the details of the conspiracy, but it makes up for it in other areas. It has some great music, some great sets, some solid acting and overall seems genuine and fair to all the major players in the conspiracy.

    Eight Men Out isn't perfect, but it isn't as flawed as Roger Ebert would have you believe. If you a fan of baseball in fact, I'd say its mandatory viewing.
    7mjneu59

    the antidote to Field of Dreams

    When the team that couldn't be beat threw the World Series in 1919 they did more than deliberately lose a few baseball games; they corrupted the National Pastime and ushered the sport out of its age of innocence. Writer director John Sayles succeeds in showing exactly how and why eight players on the best team in baseball set in motion what had to be one of the most poorly conceived, organized and executed conspiracies in the whole history of graft, and in his usual role as a champion of the working class portrays the guilty players as victims of money-grubbing corporate exploitation (represented both by team management and organized crime).

    But it's all the cynical wheeling and dealing behind the Black Sox scandal which make the film so fascinating. The story might have been unbelievable if it wasn't entirely true, but like any aspect of real life the details are messy and inconclusive. Most of the film recounts the mechanics of the fix; events during the subsequent exposure and trial are telescoped too quickly into the final forty minutes or so, which makes sense: in any conspiracy the crime is always more interesting than the punishment.

    It helps to be at least slightly familiar with the huge cast of characters involved: players, gamblers, reporters and so forth. A few scenes have been added for dramatic unity, and others were abbreviated to maintain a consistent pace, but all the facts are there, and Sayles manages to pull them all together in an entertaining history lesson from our collective adolescence, re-creating that fateful moment when the boys of summer grew up for good.
    7Maziun

    Solid sports drama

    I've never been a fan of baseball. The only movies about baseball that could interest me were comedies ("Major league" , "Dullham bulls") . Until I've seen "Field of dreams" and this one. Then I realized that you could make a serious movie with baseball in it.

    "Eight men out" is a story about corruption. The movie never takes any side , it allows us to choose our own interpretation of whole story. It seems that everyone here has some sins – the players , the club owners, the journalists and frauds.

    The movie has cast full of stars – John Cusack ("Say anything"), Christopher Lloyd ("Back to the future") , Charlie Sheen (TV series "Two and half men") , Michael Rooker ("Cliffhanger") . It's entertaining even for someone who doesn't know a thing about baseball (like me). It's quite long movie (almost 2 hours) , yet never a moment is wasted . The atmosphere of the post - I world war America is top notch , especially the music .

    A good movie worth a chance . Recommended for sports fans. I give it 7/10.
    8tobybarlowny

    Good Movie, GREAT BOOK

    This is one of the greatest sports stories ever told, the real story about how and WHY they fixed the World Series. Eliot Asinof's book should be read by anyone interested in history, and Sayles does an admirable job of tying it all together into a script (Sayles even cast Asinof in the movie, and then cast him again in Sunshine State.) It's a story that anyone interested in a history of America, a history of labor and management, a history of the greatest game will definitely enjoy. After reading it, the Shoeless Joe character from "Field of Dreams" suddenly has a resonance which that particular film could never explain (though it is nicely explained in the source for that film "Shoeless Joe") Also worth reading is "The Glory of Their Times" an oral history of early baseball.

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    • Curiosidades
      In many scenes, players toss their gloves down on the field near their positions before they head to the dugout. Until the 1950s, players frequently left their gloves on the field while at bat. Because of the danger of players stepping on or tripping on them, and batted or thrown balls bouncing off them in odd directions, Major League Baseball requested, then demanded, players to take their gloves with them to the dugout. They finally complied after a rule change and fines.
    • Erros de gravação
      Shoeless Joe Jackson signs his confession with an "X". Jackson was illiterate, but he could sign his name by mimicking a pattern. Autographed baseballs and photographs from the time prove it.
    • Citações

      Buck Weaver: I still get such a bang out of it. Playin' ball. Same as I did when I first come up. You get out there, and the stands are full, and everybody's cheerin'. It's like everybody in the world come to see you. Inside that, there's the players, and they're yakkin' it up. The pitcher throws, and you look for that pill, and suddenly, there's nothin' else in the ballpark but you and it. Sometimes, when you're feelin' right, there's a groove there, and the bat just eases into it and meets that ball. And when that bat meets that ball, and you can just feel that ball just give, and you know it's gonna go a long way, damn, if you don't feel like you're gonna live forever. I couldn't give that up. Not for nothin'.

    • Cenas durante ou pós-créditos
      The opening credits are done against a cloudy blue sky, first going up, then to the right, and down to the bottom (kind of like a fly ball). Despite the ensemble cast, the most well-known leading and character actors at the time are credited first in alphabetical order, then lesser known actors that had roles that were just as large or larger are credited in pairs of two. Example: John Cusack, Christopher Lloyd, and Charlie Sheen are credited first, due to their successes with Garota Sinal Verde (1985), De Volta para o Futuro (1985), and Platoon (1986), respectively; however, in pairs, Michael Rooker, Kevin Tighe, and Richard Edson also had pivotal roles, but were lesser known. Sheen already was well-established but had only a few minutes of screen time in the movie, Lloyd and Edson always are together, playing gamblers, but Lloyd was a much more well-known actor and credited first.
    • Versões alternativas
      Five seconds were cut from the British theatrical release in order to obtain a "PG" rating by removing a use of strong language. The film was later released uncut on video and the rating was upgraded to "15", which was subsequently downgraded to "12" for the DVD.
    • Conexões
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: Moon Over Parador/Eight Men Out/Running on Empty/The Thin Blue Line/Crossing Delancey (1988)
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      Published by Warner Bros. Music, a division of Warner Bros. Inc.

      Used by permission. All rights reserved.

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 29 de junho de 1989 (Austrália)
    • País de origem
      • Estados Unidos da América
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      • Inglês
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      • Fora de Jogada
    • Locações de filme
      • Bush Stadium - 1501 W. 16th Street, Indianápolis, Indiana, EUA
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      • Orion Pictures
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    • Orçamento
      • US$ 6.100.000 (estimativa)
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      • US$ 5.680.515
    • Fim de semana de estreia nos EUA e Canadá
      • US$ 1.129.491
      • 5 de set. de 1988
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      • 1 h 59 min(119 min)
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