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The Decline of Western Civilization

  • 1981
  • Not Rated
  • 1 h 40 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
7,5/10
5,4 mil
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The Decline of Western Civilization (1981)
A look into the Los Angeles punk rock scene, that was largely ignored by the rock music press of the time.
Reproduzir trailer1:44
12 vídeos
4 fotos
DocumentárioHistóriaMúsica

Uma olhada na cena punk rock de Los Angeles, que foi amplamente ignorada pela imprensa de rock da época.Uma olhada na cena punk rock de Los Angeles, que foi amplamente ignorada pela imprensa de rock da época.Uma olhada na cena punk rock de Los Angeles, que foi amplamente ignorada pela imprensa de rock da época.

  • Direção
    • Penelope Spheeris
  • Artistas
    • Eugene Tatu
    • Alice Bag Band
    • Black Flag
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    7,5/10
    5,4 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Penelope Spheeris
    • Artistas
      • Eugene Tatu
      • Alice Bag Band
      • Black Flag
    • 41Avaliações de usuários
    • 25Avaliações da crítica
    • 93Metascore
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
    • Prêmios
      • 1 vitória no total

    Vídeos12

    Trailer
    Trailer 1:44
    Trailer
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    Clip 1:40
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    Clip 1:40
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: X Performs We're Desperate
    Clip 0:57
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: X Performs We're Desperate
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Dave Grohl's Commentary
    Clip 1:05
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Dave Grohl's Commentary
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Fear Performs I Don't Care About You
    Clip 1:19
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Fear Performs I Don't Care About You
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Germs Perform Manimal
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Germs Perform Manimal

    Fotos3

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    Eugene Tatu
    • Self - Light Bulb Kid
    • (as Eugene)
    Alice Bag Band
    • Themselves
    Black Flag
    Black Flag
    • Themselves
    Catholic Discipline
    • Themselves
    Circle Jerks
    • Themselves
    Fear
    Fear
    • Themselves
    The Germs
    • Themselves
    • (as Germs)
    X
    • X
    Wayne Mayotte
    • Self - Owner - Club 88
    Brendan Mullen
    • Self - Owner - Masque
    Greg Ginn
    • Self - Black Flag (Guitar)
    Chuck Dukowski
    • Self - Black Flag (Bass)
    • (as Gary McDaniel)
    Robo
    • Self - Black Flag (Drums)
    Ron Reyes
    Ron Reyes
    • Self - Black Flag (Vocals)
    Nicole Panter
    • Self - Germs' Manager
    • (as Nicole)
    Darby Crash
    Darby Crash
    • Self - Germs (Vocals)
    Michelle Baer Ghaffari
    • Self - Darby Crash's Roommate
    • (as Michelle)
    Pat Smear
    Pat Smear
    • Self - Germs (Guitar)
    • (as Pat)
    • Direção
      • Penelope Spheeris
    • Elenco e equipe completos
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    Avaliações de usuários41

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    one4now4

    A good documentary

    Here is a great movie. Now, first of all, I would like to say that I was born in the early 1980s. I really never knew, up-close and personal, what true punk rock was. Watching this film was like a history lesson of sorts. The music was great, good vintage rock n' roll from bands like Black Flag, Circle Jerks, X, etc. It seemed to me that with this film, Penelope Spheeris was trying to show people that these weren't all just stupid kids who were out to do drugs and kill people. Some of these punks really had some philosophies that they were working at behind their music. This seems most evident in the interview with Black Flag. I understand myself how a lot of people might view these bands' philosophies as under-developed and simple, but one must take into account that these were some pretty young people. Nowadays, as young as I still am, I find it refreshing to run into someone my age who understands in any way philosophical thinking. In this movie, the young people may seem a little half-baked in their philosophies, but you might keep in mind that most kids don't even get that far. I've met many full-grown adults who have not progressed as far with deep thought contexts as some of the punk musicians in "Decline". Another thing I loved about this movie was how funny it got at times. Some of these kids were total idiots, while the story about the dead painter was devilishly humorous. Fear's performance at the end topped it all. Even if punk is dead, it was once very alive. All flaws aside, "The Decline of Western Civilization" was made for people who can tell the difference between some suburban wimp with a mohawk and the truly intelligent individuals who were genuinely upset and picked up music instruments as weapons against the forces of the corporate.
    10Mr Pants

    Whatever happened to the little French guy?

    Kind of a guilty indulgence nowadays, this used to be required watching when i was in high school. It really is a great illumination of the burgeoning punk scene in LA in 1980. As the bands play, Spheeris prints the lyrics in subtitles, which is of course necessary if one really wants to know what the guy is screaming into the microphone. But also it turns the camera's POV into that of tourist, passing through this alien world. The band interviews reveal an honest approach to the music that really doesn't exist anymore. Then again, it's not as easy to come by $16/month former-church closets like Chavez of Black Flag does. How many unheard of bands do you know that aren't trying like the dickens to get a record deal? These guys just didn't care. And who can't love the commentary of the little French dude who used to be the "singer" for Catholic Discipline (of which Phranc was a member). His gritty voice delivers one of the best soliloquies ever captured on film: "I have excellent news for the world ... there's no such thing as New Wave." Whew! What a relief!
    wedgelvr

    just covers one sub-punk culture. . .

    Decline is an excellent movie, but we must keep in mind that it only showcases one of the many sub-cultures of punk rock in LA at the time. the Germs and Fear etc are all great bands and the shots of them don't do them justice. but the shots of the fans cast an almost negative light on punk rockers. this movie was made at a time when angry youth from orange county found their way into the LA punk scene. they made it violent, (it always sort of was, but it was never meant to take away from the music) they are shown moshing for the sake of hurting each other not for celebrating the music; like the punkers before them. Decline is an excellent glimpse into the punk scene of the 70s and 80s, but be wary when showing it to someone who only has this to base their opinions of Punk rock on.
    9mstomaso

    When Something Interesting Briefly Happened in Music

    If I assume that you know what this film is about, I am also forced to assume that you've come to this review knowing that you will probably watch it regardless of what I say. If all this rings true - read on - you are likely to find some consonance with at least part of this review. If you're undecided, or not really entirely certain what happened in the late '70s and early '80s in the urban and suburban youth music culture, you should probably read one of the reviews which pretends to be objective instead.

    Although I didn't grow up in California, the American punk scene was the first music scene I ever truly lived in. At the height of the hardcore I was immersed in from about 1979-1981 everybody had a band and the only common denominators between bands and indeed members of their audiences were:

    * the rejection of conformity

    * tolerance and enjoyment of difference

    * a desire to have fun - hard and fast

    Hairstyles, politics, dislike of authority figures, and violent slam-dancing were not integral to what I experienced, though there were certainly cliques or factions who tended to be intolerant of those who did not dress, speak or act "punk" enough. And there was often a certain amount of unearned credit extended from some of these cliques to those who tried really hard to live down to the fascistic paradigm of anarchic, self mutilating, angry young cop-haters.

    Although the interviews with audience punks in Penelope Spheeris' excellent Cal-Punk documentary "Decline of Western Civilization" present a very narrow view of the subculture some of us enjoyed, the interviews with the bands, club owners, promoters and even the security people are much more representative of at least my own perspective and memories of 'the scene'. nevertheless, it is possible for those who approach this with prejudices about what punk is to experience this film without having their preconceptions challenged. Unfortunate as this is, the blame for it rests solely with those who promote, believe in or feel comfortable with stereotypes - Not the film-makers. Don't blame the messenger.

    The music presented here is not going to be for everybody - nor even most. It's not the most crude stuff out there, but it's loud, obnoxious, fast, and less concerned with technique than with raw energy.

    For me, seeing early Black Flag with Ron Reyes singing, X, Fear and the Circle Jerks was worth far more than the cost of this hard to obtain film. As much as I like The Germs, seeing Darby Crash for the mess - and the nice guy - that he was left me a bit cold. Nevertheless, the scenes of Darby playing with his pet tarantula while "Shut Down" droned on and on in the background were precious. The X interview is also great.

    Spheeris' straightforward documentary style is supplemented by wild pans and zooms during the musical segments. During the interviews, framing is used very nicely to provide context for whatever is being said. Considering her experience and the budget, Spheeris did as well as anybody could have with this film.

    Recommended for those who appreciate what this film is actually about, and for those who have forgotten those few years of fun, honest, direction-less rebellion before Amaerican punk was co-opted into yet another flow within the musical mainstream and the stereotypes became more important than the basic philosophy.
    8InjunNose

    Brilliant, funny, scary...but selective.

    Everyone who's seen "Decline" knows how great it is. My favorite segments are those featuring Black Flag and Fear, because they're the funniest and the most visceral. Still, all the bands that actually STARTED the Los Angeles punk scene, apart from the Germs, are missing from this film. Where are the Weirdos, the Screamers, the Dils, and the Zeros? The Alice Bag Band is here, but they were better when they were simply the Bags. The Germs' segment is depressing. The very brief glimpses of Catholic Discipline were fascinating and made me wish that this band had at least recorded some demos. As a documentary, "Decline" is flawed...but it's indispensable, too. To find out about the bands this film didn't cover, read "We Got the Neutron Bomb" by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen. And to see what was going on in San Francisco right around the same time, get the much shorter (but equally brilliant) documentary "Louder Faster Shorter", directed by Mindaugis Bagdon. This twenty-minute burst of pure punk actually *does* feature the Dils--along with UXA, the Avengers, the Sleepers, and the Mutants.

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      According to director Penelope Spheeris this film was financed by two businessmen who originally wanted to finance a porn film.
    • Citações

      The Circle Jerks member: And at the bottom it says "Thank you." And you can tell 'em to fuck off.

    • Conexões
      Featured in Meu Pecado Favorito (2003)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      Manimal
      Written by Darby Crash and Pat Smear

      Performed by The Germs

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 1983 (Itália)
    • País de origem
      • Estados Unidos da América
    • Central de atendimento oficial
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      • Inglês
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    • Locações de filme
      • Los Angeles, Califórnia, EUA(main location)
    • Empresa de produção
      • Spheeris Films
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      • US$ 100.000 (estimativa)
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      • US$ 440
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      • 1 h 40 min(100 min)
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