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Quando é Preciso Ser Homem

Título original: Soldier Blue
  • 1970
  • PG
  • 1 h 55 min
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Candice Bergen and Peter Strauss in Quando é Preciso Ser Homem (1970)
After a cavalry patrol is ambushed by the Cheyenne, the two survivors, a soldier and a woman, must reach the safety of the nearest fort.
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaAfter a cavalry patrol is ambushed by the Cheyenne, the two survivors, a soldier and a woman, must reach the safety of the nearest fort.After a cavalry patrol is ambushed by the Cheyenne, the two survivors, a soldier and a woman, must reach the safety of the nearest fort.After a cavalry patrol is ambushed by the Cheyenne, the two survivors, a soldier and a woman, must reach the safety of the nearest fort.

  • Direção
    • Ralph Nelson
  • Roteiristas
    • Theodore V. Olsen
    • John Gay
  • Artistas
    • Candice Bergen
    • Peter Strauss
    • Donald Pleasence
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    6,9/10
    6,9 mil
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    • Direção
      • Ralph Nelson
    • Roteiristas
      • Theodore V. Olsen
      • John Gay
    • Artistas
      • Candice Bergen
      • Peter Strauss
      • Donald Pleasence
    • 88Avaliações de usuários
    • 48Avaliações da crítica
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
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    Candice Bergen
    Candice Bergen
    • Cresta
    Peter Strauss
    Peter Strauss
    • Honus
    Donald Pleasence
    Donald Pleasence
    • Cumber
    John Anderson
    John Anderson
    • Col. Iverson
    Jorge Rivero
    Jorge Rivero
    • Spotted Wolf
    Dana Elcar
    Dana Elcar
    • Capt. Battles
    Bob Carraway
    • Lt. McNair
    Martin West
    Martin West
    • Lt. Spingarn
    James Hampton
    James Hampton
    • Pvt. Menzies
    Mort Mills
    Mort Mills
    • Sgt. O'Hearn
    Jorge Russek
    Jorge Russek
    • Running Fox
    Aurora Clavel
    Aurora Clavel
    • Indian Woman
    • (as Aurora Clavell)
    Ralph Nelson
    Ralph Nelson
    • Agent Long
    • (as Alf Elson)
    Marco Antonio Arzate
    • Kiowa Warrior
    • (não creditado)
    Barbara De Hubp
    • Mrs. Long
    • (não creditado)
    Ron Fletcher
    • Lt. Mitchell
    • (não creditado)
    Alfredo Tarzan Gutiérrez
    • Kiowa indian
    • (não creditado)
    Conrad Hool
    Conrad Hool
    • Lieutenant
    • (não creditado)
    • Direção
      • Ralph Nelson
    • Roteiristas
      • Theodore V. Olsen
      • John Gay
    • Elenco e equipe completos
    • Produção, bilheteria e muito mais no IMDbPro

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    10TM-2

    Gory, ultra violent western released in USA in highly edited form as a love story.

    As released in the UK, this movie pushed the limits of movie violence to the virtually unwatchable. People literally were sick in the theatres. I saw the movie several times in the theatres and on video. It lost none of its impact on repeated viewing. My research indicates that since the movie depicted the massacre of an Indian village, it was thought not politically correct for viewing in unedited form in the US. It does show the horror of war in a most graphic way. I have not seen anything since that is even remotely close. The highly edited US version shows the power and degree of censorship that existed in the US. To my knowledge, the movie is still not available in the US in unedited form.
    DJ Inferno

    A hushed up sad chapter in the American history

    Well, nearly the whole film tells the love story of a woman who has grown up at the Indians and an American soldier as well as their survival in the wilderness. The last 15 minutes however have the same shocking effect other controversial films like "Cannibal Holocaust" or "I spit on your grave" have got: it is shown how the US-cavalry massacres/slaughters an innocent and peaceful Indian tribe, how children get killed or even beheaded, women get raped and tortured to death, how genocide was done in the name of freedom, democracy and liberality. Extremely graphic, shocking and disturbing!!! A positive aspect of "Soldier Blue" is, that this film doesn´t deal with the typical "good Americans/bad Indians"-cliché: in this movie you won´t see a glorious hero like John Wayne riding into the sunset at the end, because "Soldier Blue" shows the darkest side of the American glory..!
    9formidible-441-172674

    One of Cinema's greatest westerns

    I still remember seeing this in the cinema at barely legal age. It profoundly affected me. From what starts as an ordinary western, ends in scenes so shocking it left me dumbfounded. But this really was how the west was won - in blood and slaughter. For me this was an awakening to the power of cinema in general and its power to both shock, educate, entertain and bewilder. This is not a film you will forget easily. Fifty years later it still resonates.
    dbdumonteil

    I look out and I see a land...

    Don't miss the beginning at any cost.Or else you would not hear Buffy Sainte-Marie's eponymous anthemic song (Yes this is my country,young and growing free and flowing from sea to sea...).The version of the song as performed here features a string arrangement not present in the original version (which is to be found on BSM's "she used to wanna be a ballerina",vanguard).This song is as moving today as it was 30 years ago,and when the singer implores "can't you see there's another way to love her?" it gains an universal meaning(not only American natives or Vietnamese as it was mooted at the time for the movie)

    The movie is famous for the slaughter which ends it.Terribly realistic ,it remains impressive today and may repel some viewers.There's a very strong use of the score during these scenes.But most of the movie deals with the initiatory journey of a young naive soldier,"educated " by a woman who was captured by the Indians and had to live with them for a while.Candice Bergen's performance came aside as a shock at the time because she used to play frail young maids (Robert Wise's "the sand pebbles";Claude Lelouch's "vivre pour vivre" ) before.But there's a problem:her character is not really believable;just compare her with the heroines with a similar fate in Ford's movies :"the searchers" ,1956;"two rode together",1961..They are far from Crista 's outspoken and politically aware character.Actually ,it seems that this woman is a contemporary woman,with Joan Baez's, Buffy Sainte-Marie's or Jane Fonda's mind (in the late sixties)..

    For all that,"soldier blue " is worth watching and superbly uses wide screen :the landscapes match Sainte-Marie's song.Primarily an intimate movie,for most of the time there are only two people on the screen.Hence the contrast with the violent finale.
    drfaustus58

    An ending that shows no mercy to the viewer.

    I saw "Soldier Blue" quite recently on British Television. About 2 hours before it was aired, the BBC did a program on George Armstrong Custer, which dispelled the story of a 'Last Stand' using archaeological evidence: The Seventh cavalry made a cowardly dash for it when the Indians attacked. Unfortunately(or fortunately depending on your point of view) the cavalry troopers and Custer were swarmed by Indians as they attempted to escape. Complete disorder swelled through the ranks of troopers. The last stand was more of a chaotic melee than a heroic action. Moreover the Indians were better armed, using repeating rifles whereas the Cavalry were using single shot Springfield carbines. My boyhood notion of Little Big Horn was shattered within a matter of minutes. I lost so much respect for Errol Flynn!!! But nothing, absolutely nothing could prepare me for what was to come later on that night. My watching Soldier Blue coincided with the climax of the tragedy in Soham, England. Therefore I was already upset.

    The haunting opening song is a portent of a terrible tragedy. I got the feeling that something truly horrific was going to happen. It's a song that I won't forget for a long time. The film's two protaganists(Candice Bergen and Peter Strauss, a US cavalry trooper), escape from Indians who have attacked an Army wagon train(carrying amongst other things The soldiers wages). The subsequent storyline lulled me into a false sense of security. Bergen and Strauss begin to fall in love whilst deliberating about the plight of the Indians (Bergen feels they have been mistreated. She knows this. She had lived with Cheyenne Indians for 2 years. Strauss feels differently. His naivety does show...Great acting!!Well done Peter!). Actually I got very bored with this, thinking that the movie was turning into one of those slushy 'opposites attract' stories. But the introduction of Donald Pleasance as the sadistic gunrunner changed that. Strauss and Bergen are abducted by him. This point in the movie is important. I feel the tone begins to change. Those haunting lyrics returned to my head as I watched Bergen and Strauss attempting to escape from their abductor(respite is given by the sight of Candices' wonderful rear end). Strauss, being a soldier is obliged to burn the gunrunners wagon. The gunrunner has a large number of guns which he is going to sell to the Cheyenne indians. Bergen tries to stop him, but fails. The two escape and hide out in a cave. Bergen then leaves Strauss, possibly feeling that their relationship can come to nothing as she's due to marry another Soldier. She's found by cavalry scouts and brought back to their camp. Here she learns that the Cavalry troop are about to attack a Cheyenne village a few miles away. Coincidentally the village is the one she lived in for 2 years. She leaves the cavalry troop and heads straight for the village, hoping to warn them of the pending attack. This leads us to the finale. I won't describe it as I think it is beyond me. I don't think I can describe the effect it had on me either. Before this I had some idea of how the American Indians had been treated by the Europeans. The documentary on the ill fated Custer and his troop had only hinted at this type of treatment, and of course increased my capacity for cynicism.

    The finale of Soldier Blue confirmed what that haunting song had hinted at. It's like nothing I've ever seen before. I was shocked beyond belief, and as an avid movie fan I have seen some shocking movies. Even the finale in "Don't Look now" comes nowhere near this. The director should be credited. He rams his point home (although some people may feel a little exploited). Forget all that nonsense about this movie referring to the My Lai atrocities in Vietnam. It's a poignant testament to human innocence(The Indians) and a disturbing testament to a successful act of genocide. Namely the systematic destruction of the native Americans.

    I recommend this movie. Although it's not for everyone. The plot line rambles a bit at times. The photography is beautiful. Although some might think it typically 1960's. The acting is top notch. But it's NOT for the squeamish or faint hearted. Keep well away from this movie regardless of the fact that you bore the brunt of the opening 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan.

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    • Curiosidades
      Original work print of the movie was 135 minutes long. When it was test-screened to an audience, they almost started a riot after watching this version. This was the only time that the full uncut version was shown, and it caused the studio to decide that it was unreleasable unless massive cuts were made to the film's violent scenes. Some of these cut and never included in any official version scenes include shots of Indian women's breasts being sliced off and thrown around; children's limbs graphically severed (real amputees were employed for these shots); a little girl's legs cut off by wagon wheels; a soldier gleefully cutting an Indian's arms off before shooting another Cheyenne in the eye; the fate of Spotted Wolf, who is beheaded and his head is hoisted as a trophy by a soldier before he tosses it to another soldier, who then throws it off camera. Spotted Wolf's head attached to the stirrup of a cavalryman was not cut and is shown in the release print, and there are stills showing his mutilated body lying on the ground without the head and four cavalrymen running around with his severed head in their hands, howling and laughing while blood is spurting from the neck stump.
    • Erros de gravação
      The voice-over at the end of the film describes the events witnessed as taking place in 1864. However, earlier in the movie Honus tells Cresta that his father was killed at the battle of Little Bighorn which occurred in 1876.
    • Citações

      Col. Iverson: When I see young people today behaving like that I just... I can't help wondering what this goddamn country's coming to.

    • Versões alternativas
      The movie was originally rated "R" by the MPAA. In 1974 a new version was rated "PG" which removed the most graphically violent parts from the massacre as well as a toned down rape scene, but the scene still contained full frontal nudity of a native woman.
    • Conexões
      Featured in JFK II: The Bush Connection (2003)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      Soldier Blue
      Written by Buffy Sainte-Marie, Produced by Jack Nitzsche

      Performed by Buffy Sainte-Marie

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 25 de setembro de 1970 (Itália)
    • País de origem
      • Estados Unidos da América
    • Idioma
      • Inglês
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    • Locações de filme
      • San Miguel de Horcasitas, Sonora, México
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      • AVCO Embassy Pictures
      • Katzka-Loeb
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