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Os Vitoriosos

Título original: The Victors
  • 1963
  • Approved
  • 2 h 55 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
6,9/10
1,9 mil
SUA AVALIAÇÃO
Senta Berger, Romy Schneider, Melina Mercouri, Jeanne Moreau, Rosanna Schiaffino, and Elke Sommer in Os Vitoriosos (1963)
DramaGuerraTragédia

Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaIntelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.Intelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.Intelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.

  • Direção
    • Carl Foreman
  • Roteiristas
    • Alexander Baron
    • Carl Foreman
  • Artistas
    • Vince Edwards
    • Albert Finney
    • George Hamilton
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    6,9/10
    1,9 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Carl Foreman
    • Roteiristas
      • Alexander Baron
      • Carl Foreman
    • Artistas
      • Vince Edwards
      • Albert Finney
      • George Hamilton
    • 76Avaliações de usuários
    • 14Avaliações da crítica
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      • 2 indicações no total

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    Vince Edwards
    Vince Edwards
    • Pvt. George Baker
    • (as Vincent Edwards)
    Albert Finney
    Albert Finney
    • Russian Soldier
    George Hamilton
    George Hamilton
    • Cpl. Theodore Trower
    Melina Mercouri
    Melina Mercouri
    • Magda
    Jeanne Moreau
    Jeanne Moreau
    • French Woman
    George Peppard
    George Peppard
    • Cpl. Frank Chase
    Maurice Ronet
    Maurice Ronet
    • French Lieutenant
    Rosanna Schiaffino
    Rosanna Schiaffino
    • Maria
    Romy Schneider
    Romy Schneider
    • Regine
    Elke Sommer
    Elke Sommer
    • Helga Metzger
    Eli Wallach
    Eli Wallach
    • Sgt. Joe Craig
    Michael Callan
    Michael Callan
    • Eldridge
    Peter Fonda
    Peter Fonda
    • Weaver
    James Mitchum
    James Mitchum
    • Pvt. Robert Grogan
    • (as Jim Mitchum)
    Senta Berger
    Senta Berger
    • Trudi Metzger
    Albert Lieven
    Albert Lieven
    • Herr Metzger
    Mervyn Johns
    Mervyn Johns
    • Dennis
    Tutte Lemkow
    Tutte Lemkow
    • Sikh Soldier
    • Direção
      • Carl Foreman
    • Roteiristas
      • Alexander Baron
      • Carl Foreman
    • Elenco e equipe completos
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    Avaliações de usuários76

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    kevin-molloy

    One day will be recognised as one of the best war films ever

    One of the most extraordinarily intelligent films ever made, this epic from Carl Foreman (High Noon, Bridge Over River Kwai, Guns of Navarone) follows the fortunes of an American platoon during WWII.

    Plenty of well-known stars (Peppard, Fonda, Finney) shine in solid performances while the B&W film compliments the moody cinematography.

    It's not anti-war - more a study of friendship, love and prejudice intensified under stress (Casualties of War indeed). Episodes of deep pathos contrast with intermittent feelgood factors - although some of the intended irony is a little heavy (primarily because it was aimed at the American viewer).

    Unlike Private Ryan and similar Yank-only trash, it is one of the few WWII films to actively feature the participation of other allied nations, notably France, Russia and India, and the effects on the civilians of Belgium, England, Italy and Germany.

    My favourite scene is when the character played by George Peppard is waiting for a bus in the pouring rain while on leave in England. A working class family invite him into their home until the bus arrives and their hospitality is such that he comfortably falls asleep on a chair by the fire. On finally catching the bus he discovers the family have placed a 10 shilling note in his top pocket. I think this is one of the most touching moments in the history of film.

    In the most famous scene the platoon are ordered to witness a deserter executed by firing squad somewhere in a snowy landscape of France, while over-running from earlier newsreel footage, the soundtrack is playing 'Have yourself a Merry Little Xmas'. Very moving.

    America should be proud of this one.

    Kevin Molloy TV Producer London, England
    derek-griffiths

    A superb drama about the universal madness of war

    Predating APOCALYPSE NOW by fifteen years, this is the most powerful, sad, ironic and hard-hitting anti-war film I have seen and I rank it nearly on a par with KING RAT, my personal favourite. A group of ill-assorted soldiers make their way through the grim battlefields of France and Germany and Italy as much oppressed by their own corrupt fellow soldiers and officers as the enemy. There are so many memorable scenes in the movie of suffering, loneliness and the tragedy of war that I cannot recommend it highly enough. The script is literate, uncompromising, surprising and resolutely objective about both the enemy and the liberators that fight them. The cast is an amazing ensemble of talent and there is a sense of really brutal authenticity in the film which seldom is to be found in the cinema today. A final grim twist at the end, reflecting the height of the Cold War when the film was made, is one of the simplest and most articulate statements on the continuing madness of human conflict we are still gripped by. Coppola, Stone and every other great film-maker dealing with war in its various incarnations is indebted to this unique movie.
    KatMiss

    AN EXTRAORDINARY NEW KIND OF WAR FILM

    Carl Foreman's "The Victors" is extraordinary for two reasons:

    1) it emphasizes the characters over the action

    2) while being a "spot the star" flick, this is a film made up of smaller stars.

    Among the "smaller" stars in this, we have Vince Edwards, George Hamilton, Albert Finney, Peter Fonda, Eli Wallach and George Peppard. Perhaps they are not as big as the ones who appeared in the popular war epics of the time, but I think it benefits from this approach. The film is a bunch of low-key stories strung together by the war and these low-key actors are perfect for this approach.

    There are action scenes. It wouldn't be a war film without them. But after a while, I got tired of action scene after action scene and I appreciated a film that let us get to know these soldiers and how they felt about the war and life. It predates Terrence Malick's "The Thin Red Line" by about 33 years, but it's just as effective.

    Carl Foreman was famously blacklisted during the 1950s and only now is his work appreciated. His credits include "The Bridge Over The River Kwai" and "The Guns of Navarone" and in this, his directorial debut, he demonstrates the skill and drama of the earlier pictures along with the character studies. The result: a richly textured film, one of 1963's best. If only more people knew about it. Columbia, if you're reading this, release it on tape and DVD NOW!

    **** out of 4 stars
    8wuxmup

    A fine film that should be on DVD - uncut

    I saw The Victors on the big screen in 1964 and its impact has never left me. I saw a cut version on TV a few years ago, and while forty years of film watching and life experience made the movie seem a little heavy-handed and sentimental to me, it still packed a punch. It is not a perfect film - there is the occasional bad moment, and some techniques that were startling in 1963, particularly the newsreels and the hand-held camera used in the opening scene, are now familiar.

    Nevertheless, The Victors should serve as a needed lesson to "kids today" that WWII was not fun, not easy, and not "an adventure." Beating the Nazis was a grinding, miserable task that was paid for in suffering and loss. (As for concentration camps, a previous reviewer missed the scene in which one is indeed liberated.) Unusually, the film shows the effect of war on women and children, as well as on the fighting men. It's also remarkable that the movie was released years before the "disillusionment" of the Vietnam War. Had more Americans seen The Victors they might have had a better idea of what the nation was getting itself into. Watch The Longest Day or Patton, then watch The Victors and then decide which seems the most "true to life." If you don't know what "symbolism" means, the final episode, filmed at the height of the Cold War, and its epigraph by World War I poet Wilfred Owen, will show you.

    The opening credits suggest the historical relationship between World war II and World War I. They also should remind everyone that there were plenty of Black GIs in WWII, and that Uncle Sam didn't win the war all by himself.

    There are moments of real humanity here. The Vince Edwards episode was considered "controversial" in 1963, and in today's film culture may actually seem banal, but it's about understanding as well as loneliness. The memorable sequence involving George Peppard and the English family is wonderfully understated.

    Somebody should explain why this occasionally flawed but excellent and provocative film has never been released to home video.
    neil_baker

    Disjointed, Different and Brave

    A somewhat distasteful but fine, very watchable film. It has the one cynical message of how WWII consequentially brought about some sort of demise in all those involved in the Allies efforts to rid Europe of the Nazis - both soldiers and citizens. In a series of short scenes, different characters take centre stage in depicting different aspects of the main theme. Sometimes the best in people is displayed, with genuine friendships and affections, but those with more exposure to the conflict as it progresses from the invasion of France, are more susceptible to their darker sides coming to the fore. Some are more able to overcome this (like Peppard), others sink deeper into despair (like Hamilton), some don't question how they have become worse (like Mitcham), while the ultimate downfall of others is physical rather than mental maiming (like Wallach). Faults do exist. The film is a little heavy laden with making the same point in unrelated scenes, and sometimes the attempted pathos is over done. Also, like all films of its era, the 'likeable' male characters have to be clean cut and good looking, any black character is too weak, and there are too many glamorous women, with the only strong woman character not being pleasant. Republican Yanks will hate the film's lack of heroism and fair play, along with it's criticism of the virtues the USA was fighting for: Profiteers doing well as the free-market economy went to war and GI's capable of being as racist as their Nazi foes. In the main its an enjoyable, nicely acted film - one of my favourites - a refreshing change to all the simplistic, pious and very corny "good over-coming evil" representation of this conflict a-la Spielberg, etc.

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      This film opened in London in the winter of 1963 at a length of 175 minutes and was universally criticized for being too long. It did not generate much box-office interest in this initial engagement and, by the time it went out on general release several weeks later, it had been trimmed by a little over a quarter of an hour. As it was a film filled with brief (or prolonged) episodes of war rather than one continuing plot-line, it was easy to shorten the film by taking out one episode in its entirety - a story concerning a young French orphan who is unofficially adopted by the platoon, and who, as the soldiers are horrified to discover, has survived the German occupation by becoming a child prostitute. This role was played by the French teenage actor Joel Flateau, who was still prominently billed on the film's posters and in the opening credit sequence. The film did no better at the box-office, and vanished from sight in Britain for many years, until, in 2004, it began to appear again on British television, and also got a DVD release in the same period. The episode was not restored, however, and Flateau's name was now excised from the credits. The film was also now missing other scenes, notably a brief one where some British soldiers, finding a piano in a ruined building, sing the traditional army song, "The Long And The Short And The Tall" - not in the usual bowdlerized version, but with liberal use of the F-word, which here was used for the first time in an English-language film.
    • Erros de gravação
      "Psst! Feind hört mit" meaning "Shh! Enemy is listening" appears in a scene on a wall. Then it changes to incorrect "Psst! Feine hört mit". Then it changes to the correct first version again.
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      [Craig is sound asleep in Philippe's old bed. Sounds of explosions and gunfire rage on outside, but he doesn't stir. A noise startles him awake and he grabs his gun barrel]

      Sgt. Craig: Who's there?

      [It's the French Woman. She's cowering in a corner of the bedroom]

      French Woman: I'm sorry. I didn't want to disturb you, but I'm frightened. I just wanted to stay here, near someone.

      Sgt. Craig: Those are our guns, I think.

      French Woman: Mmm... It's not the guns, it's the planes! They were bombing till a moment ago, and you never woke up!

      [She begins to sob]

      French Woman: I slept for a while, and I haven't been able to since. I really don't know how you can sleep with all that!

      [She and Craig hear explosions outside]

      French Woman: I can't be alone. I just can't bear it anymore. Please... may I stay here? I won't bother you. Please!

      [Craig lifts the covers of the bed, beckoning her in. Gratefully, she gets in beside him]

    • Cenas durante ou pós-créditos
      Opening credits prologue: ENGLAND, 1942
    • Versões alternativas
      Some prints run 156 minutes.
    • Conexões
      Edited into Bass on Titles (1982)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      March of The Victors
      Written by Sol Kaplan Freddy Douglass

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      • 19 de novembro de 1963 (Reino Unido)
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      • Inglês
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      • Open Road Films (II)
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      2 horas 55 minutos
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