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Rogopag - Relações Humanas

Título original: Ro.Go.Pa.G.
  • 1963
  • Not Rated
  • 2 h 2 min
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Rogopag - Relações Humanas (1963)
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaFour short films by four different directors dealing with the principles of modern life.Four short films by four different directors dealing with the principles of modern life.Four short films by four different directors dealing with the principles of modern life.

  • Direção
    • Jean-Luc Godard
    • Ugo Gregoretti
    • Pier Paolo Pasolini
  • Roteiristas
    • Roberto Rossellini
    • Jean-Luc Godard
    • Pier Paolo Pasolini
  • Artistas
    • Rosanna Schiaffino
    • Bruce Balaban
    • Maria Pia Schiaffino
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    • Direção
      • Jean-Luc Godard
      • Ugo Gregoretti
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
    • Roteiristas
      • Roberto Rossellini
      • Jean-Luc Godard
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
    • Artistas
      • Rosanna Schiaffino
      • Bruce Balaban
      • Maria Pia Schiaffino
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    • 18Avaliações da crítica
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    Rosanna Schiaffino
    Rosanna Schiaffino
    • Anna Maria (segment "Illibatezza")
    Bruce Balaban
    Bruce Balaban
    • Joe (segment "Illibatezza")
    Maria Pia Schiaffino
    • Air hostess (segment "Illibatezza")
    Jean-Marc Bory
    Jean-Marc Bory
    • Husband (segment "Il nuovo mondo")
    • (as Jean Marc Bory)
    Alexandra Stewart
    Alexandra Stewart
    • Alexandra (segment "Il nuovo mondo")
    Orson Welles
    Orson Welles
    • The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta")
    Mario Cipriani
    Mario Cipriani
    • Stracci (segment "La ricotta")
    Laura Betti
    Laura Betti
    • Sonia, la 'Diva' (segment "La ricotta")
    Edmonda Aldini
    • Un'altra diva (segment "La ricotta")
    Ettore Garofolo
    Ettore Garofolo
    • Ettore, l'angelo (segment "La ricotta")
    Ugo Tognazzi
    Ugo Tognazzi
    • Togni (segment "Il pollo ruspante")
    Lisa Gastoni
    Lisa Gastoni
    • Togni's wife (segment "Il pollo ruspante")
    Ricky Tognazzi
    Ricky Tognazzi
    • The son (segment "Il pollo ruspante")
    • (as Riky Tognazzi)
    Antonella Taito
    • The daughter (segment "Il pollo ruspante")
    Maria Bernardini
    Maria Bernardini
    • Stripteaser (segment "La ricotta")
    • (não creditado)
    Umberto Bevilacqua
    Umberto Bevilacqua
    • Operaio nella filmazione (segment "La ricotta")
    • (não creditado)
    Adele Cambria
    Adele Cambria
    • Woman at Banquet (segment "La ricotta")
    • (não creditado)
    Elsa De Giorgi
    Elsa De Giorgi
    • Productor's Wife (segment "La ricotta")
    • (não creditado)
    • Direção
      • Jean-Luc Godard
      • Ugo Gregoretti
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
    • Roteiristas
      • Roberto Rossellini
      • Jean-Luc Godard
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
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    6debblyst

    Good episodes from Pasolini and Godard

    Rossellini's episode "Illibatezza" is a technically precarious, poorly scripted excuse to a) make an advertisement for Alitalia; b) use unimaginative archive footage of Bangcok and c) film extensively Rosanna Schiaffino's body and face - it's really amateurish, a crying shame from such an important filmmaker.

    Godard's atmospheric episode examines post-nuclear effects on human behavior and is a clear criticism on nuclear policy, Moscow and absolutism (notice the newspaper headlines, and the way Alessandra keeps robotically repeating "Absolutely"). It's also a study on Alexandra Stewart's beauty and on sound editing. But above all it revisits the lovers'-quarrel-in-an-apartment-theme so dear to Godard (cf. "Breathless", "Une Femme est une Femme"), preparing his extraordinary 30min chef-d'oeuvre apartment sequence in "Le Mépris", his next film, and is in some ways a sketch for his later "Alphaville".

    Pasolini's "La Ricotta" must rank among his best. It has: a) beautiful color tableaux of the crucifixion, emulating Italian Renaissance painting, especially the Florentines; b) a Fellini-like taste in movement, humor, overlapping dialog and crowd directing; c) contagious Italian pop theme by Carlo Rustichelli; d) Orson Welles's (whose great effort here is to manage reading his cue cards in Italian) self-mocking/realistic character -- a once famous American director who is forced in his decadent years to film low-budget epic films in Italy; e) Pasolini's beautiful, prophetic poem from his Mamma Roma's film journal about artists who are caught in "the borders of the eras"; f) of course, an acid criticism on capitalism and the bourgeoisie; and g) a joyful attempt to humanize (i.e. anti-deify) Jesus and the Gospel, much in the way Rossellini had done with the life of St. Francis of Assisi in 1950's "Francesco Giullare di Dio". Pasolini had to face ferocious Vatican confrontation and lawsuits because of this episode, but he went on to make the revolutionary and much misunderstood "The Gospel According to St. Matthew" in 1964.

    Very interesting note: in the Italian language version (which is of course post-dubbed, as is the norm in Italian cinema) when the journalist asks the director (Welles) what he thinks about "the great Italian director Federico Fellini" you can see the Italian actor who plays the journalist clearly articulating "...the great Italian director Pier Paolo Pasolini"!!! It says a lot about Pasolini's fame even then and also about how Pasolini mended his coup de vanité in the dubbing so as to finally use the name of his friend Fellini. Oh, and by the way Welles's answer is: "Egli danza....egli danza!" which means "he dances...he dances!".

    Gregoretti's episode "Il Pollo Ruspante" is well written and interesting, and impressively prophetic of the theories of consumerism and capitalism that are valid still today, in our "post-industrialized" world. Some scenes are too literal (like the one actually showing the chickens eating in a restaurant) and the end is a little bit too heavy, but it has pace and good acting.

    Overall, Godard and Pasolini definitely make "Rogopag" a worthwhile film. If you're in a hurry you can (sorry to say) just skip Rossellini's episode. My vote for GOPA (Godard+Pasolini): 8/10. My vote for all ROGOPAG: 6/10.
    8f. baez

    The best Pasolini and the worst Godard

    "La Ricotta" is Pasolini at his peak, and I find it truly connected to the original spirit of catholicism; we should see every other human being, specially if he´s poor or suffers, as Stracci. We usually act like the players who mock him. "Pollo ruspante" is also good, funny and witty. Godard's segment spoils the film: it is boring, pretentious and lacks spine.
    7Red-125

    I watched "La Ricotta" as a stand-alone film

    The short movie "La Ricotta" (the curd cheese) is one of four films by four Italian directors in a move called "Ro.Go.Pa.G (1963). Pier Paolo Pasolini directed this segment.

    This is a movie about making a movie. Pasolini's film-within-a-film is about the death of Jesus. Orson Welles portrays the director of this movie. I read that we're supposed to understand that his career has declined to the point where he can only make low-budget movies in Italy. (That's reasonable enough, although I don't understand how we would know that.)

    In Welles' movie, we learn that, with the exception of a few stars, who play Mary and Mary Magdalene, the rest of the cast are supposed to be local people from the surrounding poor community. (Some of them may actually be those local people, but one of the angels is played by Ettore Garofolo, who co-starred with Anna Magnani in "Mama Rosa.")

    Mario Cipriani stars as Stracci, the character who portrays the Good Thief. There is a running joke throughout the movie about Stracci somehow missing out on every meal. He ultimately steals a dog and sells it to make money. Then he buys an immense amount of cheese. (That's where the title of "La Ricotta" comes from.)

    The movie switches back and forth between color for the movie-within-a-movie, and black and white for the movie itself.

    The whole movie has a rough, slapped together quality about it. It's not a great film, although reviewers who have seen all four segments say it's the best one.

    We saw this film on the smal screen, because it was a bonus DVD packaged with the Pasolini movie "Mama Rosa." Mama Rosa is worth seeing. If you buy it as part of the Criterion Collection, you will have "La Ricotta." Because it's short, and it's there, I would watch it. I don't think it's worth seeking out otherwise.
    8darioilg

    Four stories for four authors

    Ro.Go.Pa.G is an anthology consisting of four shorts by four of the greatest auteurs in the '60s: Rossellini (whose fame as a master director had already been recognized for at least ten years in the whole world), Godard (one of the fathers of the Nouvelle Vague and clear inspiration for the project as a whole, Pasolini and Gregoretti (at the time two "young" authors in search for glory). As the four segments were developed individually, I think that the best way to comment them would be to do so separately.

    "Illibatezza" by Roberto Rossellini. The story of an Alitalia hostess victim of what today we'd call a "stalker" who suffers from Oedipus complex. A simple, linear tale, although not immediately clear in its goal, in which the true star is the gorgeous Rosanna Schiaffino. In the American I can't help but see Rossellini's own sexual desire, probably participating in the act through his alter ego. Unfortunately Bruce Balaman (whose career counts only a couple of films) is not as captivating as the female lead, and the use of dubbing on the speaking actor makes things worse for him. It's interesting to note that Anna Maria admits to being obsessed with filming and taking pics of everything she experiences in everyday life, just like today's social networks invite us to do. This is a decisive cut from the author's Catholic phase and a change for the better, without ideological powers pressing on him. 8

    "Il Nuovo Mondo" by Jean-Luc Godard. Godard never misses the chance to create something extremely unusual and destabilizing for the viewer, who is challenged to appreciate a language never before used in cinema. The short is about a possible future where an atomic bomb has been dropped near Paris and the psychological outcome this event has over the Parisiennes. The whole story is narrated in first person by the protagonist in voice over, which gives the feeling of reading a diary or a novel, except for a short dialogue between him and his lover (or, rather, "ex-lover"), whom appears to feel nothing anymore. Actually, the whole city "has changed", meaning that the fear of atomic destruction makes everyone's lives numb, with the help of some mysterious pill everybody seems to be taking. What Godard is showing us is the exact opposite of what we'd think a nuclear war would look like: apart from the screams and death of those directly hit by the bombs, everyone else would lose their interest in life, dragging a nihilistic existence, just like Alexandra does. Godard's signature features (jump cuts vs long takes) are there more than ever, with a beautiful fight between melancholy (underlined by the classical music) and raw truth (the fast cuts in the city). 8

    "La ricotta" by Pier Paolo Pasolini. This is the most significant and historically important of the four films, so much that many consider this part more cinematically relevant than the whole container Ro.Go.Pa.G. Pasolini was sentenced to four months of reclusion for "contempt of the State religion", and the version we have public access to is a lot different than the original. It is a story about Stracci, a poor man working in the outskirts of Rome as an extra in a colossal about the Passion of Christ. Pasolini's message is very clear: we care more about the passion of the supposed son of God than of his sons'. Thus, while Stracci finally gets his desired meal, the saints in the movie laugh at him and cause his end. On the other hand, the characters of the director (Orson Welles!) and the journalist give out Pasolini's view of society, with the middle man being a "monstruosity" who doesn't understand deep thoughts but only his stupid, futile desires (like the dog). The film manages to be funny and extremely tragic at the same time, and the dycotomy between black-and-white actual world and colored fiction (and also between twist and classical music) explain through sensory experience the gap between reality and what show business wants us to believe. 9

    "Il pollo ruspante" by Ugo Gregoretti. Of the four, "Il pollo ruspante" is the least interesting short. It is a critique of post-war Italian society, after the economic boom that made the nation and its inhabitants much richer and caused the birth of a larger middle-class. The events are narrated through a commerce professor who speaks using a laryngophone (which somewhat dehumanizes him) and lived by a family of four led by the greatly funny Ugo Tognazzi. Although it has some smart moments, the message underlying lies too much on the surface, making it so explicit that becomes bothering, especially when the customers at the restaurant literally become battery-bred chicken. While the other directors managed to make their films secretly full of meaning, Gregoretti tries way too hard to make everyone in the audience understand everything. Still, Tognazzi is always a delight to watch, and the situations are too surreal to plainly hate them. 7

    Overall rating: 8
    8victor9000

    Four Rooms it's not...

    Four short films by three Italians and one Jean-Luc Godard on our "new" era still seem fresh (especially Gregoretti's segment) after nearly thirty years. They all share the pessimistic thread that the world is becoming worse and individuals no longer control the course of their own lives. Each part is engrossing, yet The Range-Grown Chicken (Part IV) is particularly brilliant. Structuring a film on consumerism from the perspectives of a commercially bombarded father and a capitalist professor sets up a great division between consumerism and free will. Overall, interesting and worth seeing.

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    • Curiosidades
      Orson Welles' voice was dubbed into Italian by another actor.
    • Erros de gravação
      In the segment "La ricotta," Orson Welles is directing a "re-enactment" of the Crucifixion. It shows Jesus lying on top of a cross, tied down, while 4 men carry Christ and his cross up a hill. According to the Stations of the Cross, Christ carried his own cross.
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      The Journalist (segment "La ricotta"): I hope I'm not disturbing. I'm a journalist. I'd like to get a little interview.

      The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta"): No more than 4 questions.

      The Journalist (segment "La ricotta"): Thank you. First, what do you mean to express with this new work?

      The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta"): My intimate, profound archaic Catholicism.

      The Journalist (segment "La ricotta"): Second, what do you think of Italian society?

      The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta"): The most illiterate masses, and the most ignorant bourgeoisie in Europe.

      The Journalist (segment "La ricotta"): And third, what do you think of death?

      The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta"): As a Marxist, I never give it any thought.

      The Journalist (segment "La ricotta"): Fourth and last question: What do you think of our great director Federico Fellini?

      The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta"): He dances.

    • Versões alternativas
      The Portuguese subtitled version was shown with episodes in a different order: first Frango no Campo / "Pollo rumpante, Il"; then O Novo Mundo / "Nuovo mondo, Il"; and last "Pureza" / "Illibatezza". Pasolini's episode was totally cut by the scissors of official censorship in the theatrical release.
    • Conexões
      Edited into Fellini in città ovvero Frammenti di una conversazione su Federico Fellini (1968)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      Ricotta Twist
      by Carlo Rustichelli

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 19 de fevereiro de 1963 (Itália)
    • Países de origem
      • Itália
      • França
    • Idioma
      • Italiano
    • Também conhecido como
      • Rogopag
    • Locações de filme
      • Cinecittà Studios, Cinecittà, Roma, Lazio, Itália(Studio)
    • Empresas de produção
      • Arco Film
      • Cineriz
      • Societé Cinématographique Lyre
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    • Tempo de duração
      • 2 h 2 min(122 min)
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      • Black and White
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      • Mono
    • Proporção
      • 1.85 : 1

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