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Titanic - O Épico Nazista Banido

Título original: Titanic
  • 1943
  • TV-PG
  • 1 h 25 min
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Titanic - O Épico Nazista Banido (1943)
Third Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaThird Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in ... Ler tudoThird Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.Third Reich's Nazi propaganda epic about a heroic fictional German officer on board of the RMS Titanic. On its maiden voyage in April 1912, the supposedly unsinkable ship hits an iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean and starts to go down.

  • Direção
    • Herbert Selpin
    • Werner Klingler
  • Roteiristas
    • Harald Bratt
    • Hansi Köck
    • Herbert Selpin
  • Artistas
    • Sybille Schmitz
    • Hans Nielsen
    • Kirsten Heiberg
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
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    • Direção
      • Herbert Selpin
      • Werner Klingler
    • Roteiristas
      • Harald Bratt
      • Hansi Köck
      • Herbert Selpin
    • Artistas
      • Sybille Schmitz
      • Hans Nielsen
      • Kirsten Heiberg
    • 49Avaliações de usuários
    • 19Avaliações da crítica
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    Sybille Schmitz
    Sybille Schmitz
    • Sigrid Olinsky
    Hans Nielsen
    • 1st Officer Petersen
    Kirsten Heiberg
    Kirsten Heiberg
    • Gloria
    Ernst Fritz Fürbringer
    Ernst Fritz Fürbringer
    • Sir Bruce Ismay
    • (as E.F. Fürbringer)
    Karl Schönböck
    Karl Schönböck
    • John Jacob Astor
    Charlotte Thiele
    Charlotte Thiele
    • Lady Astor
    Otto Wernicke
    Otto Wernicke
    • Captain Edward J. Smith
    Franz Schafheitlin
    • Hunderson
    Sepp Rist
    • Jan
    Claude Farell
    Claude Farell
    • Manniküre Hedi
    • (as Monika Burg)
    Claus Holm
    Claus Holm
    • Steuermann
    Jolly Bohnert
    • Marcia
    • (não creditado)
    Hermann Brix
    Hermann Brix
    • Kapellmeister Gruber
    • (não creditado)
    Fritz Böttger
    • Lord Douglas
    • (não creditado)
    Karl Dannemann
    Karl Dannemann
    • 1. Funker Philipps
    • (não creditado)
    Kurt Alexander Duma
    • 2. Ingenieur Hesketh
    • (não creditado)
    Peter Elsholtz
    Peter Elsholtz
    • Landarbeiter Bobby
    • (não creditado)
    Karl Fochler
    • Obersteward
    • (não creditado)
    • Direção
      • Herbert Selpin
      • Werner Klingler
    • Roteiristas
      • Harald Bratt
      • Hansi Köck
      • Herbert Selpin
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    Avaliações de usuários49

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    richard.fuller1

    Did Germany know it was at war with England and America?

    Right off the bat, no, I don't speak German, but I wanted to see this depiction of the Titanic. I am truly puzzled by why a German studio and German performers (okay, they were just enjoying the work) would portray what had been English and American characters in such a sensitive and thoughtful light.

    I have heard the first officer is a fictional German character, but hey, they were ALL speaking German!

    Did this thing do like the English comedy "Allo, Allo" and have the rest of the cast speak German but with American and English accents? That would have been fun to hear.

    I got a copy of "Lady and the Tramp" in Spanish and it is delightful to hear the Italian butchers sing their priceless song in Spanish, but now with Italian accents! It actually worked!

    But I digress.

    I recognize the dropped names, Ismay and Astor, but it seems the majority of the rest of the cast have undergone name changes. Whatever. The captain seems more like der Burgermeister than he does the ted-dibly English Captain E.J. Smith actually was. I was amused by the crewman bringing the captain his jacket on deck and slipping it on him. I thought to myself, an actual English captain would not have appeared on deck unadorned like that.

    Our man Ismay here doesn't look at all as he did in real life, which I thought was puzzling. Ismay in this film is slightly grey and no moustache.

    I wondered if the nose was striving for some Jewish look, or was it shooting for the English look. About the last time we see Ismay in this thing, he is shrieking like Adolf, so any stereotype either way was done away with.

    Wallace Hartley's band on the Titanic consisted of eight members. In this German version, it would be a large oompah oompah band. In the 1929-30 "Atlantic" film, we hear a Charlston band.

    As I watched this film, I looked at the extravagance and thought "are they trying to mimick Hollywood?"

    The fashion sense to 1912 didn't connect, it was more "buy war bonds" to me.

    Everytime the film would be mucking up for me (that German couple) there would be a saving grace (the wireless operator setting the bird free, while not true, was intriguing to observe).

    That the racy steerage woman would survive I found interesting. The tenderness extended in these directions, with what was going on in the world at that time, is bewildering and if this film wasn't released back then after completion, I think that was a terrible shame.

    Still, this film just stands as one more film version of the Titanic that is perplexing to watch for historical reasons if nothing else.

    Not as bad as the 1929 version, and possesses more dimension than the '53 one.
    7theowinthrop

    The Devil Mingles Truth And Lies!

    Slowly some of the Nazi film industry's work product is becoming available by video and by DVD. Not everything (except if you deal with extreme - right wing groups) but some of their material. TITANIC is one of the few acceptable films.

    I think the reason it is acceptable is that we are aware of social inequalities in the disaster that were not officially noted in 1912. The treatment of steerage passengers for example (more first and second class men survived than third class women). The misappropriation of an entire lifeboat by Sir Cosmo and Lady Duff Gordon and their small party was another. So was the survival of the President of the White Star Line, J. Bruce Ismay (not Sir Bruce Ismay - he was never knighted before 1912, and he was a social pariah after 1912). But that's just it - Ismay and the Duff Gordons were socially ruined by their survival and the attending circumstances. The British Inquiry of Lord Mersey was not too harsh on them, but the American Inquiry of Senator William Alden Smith certainly was. Ismay was all too happy to leave New York City after Smith got through with him.

    So, yes, the story is truthfully full of social unfairness and bigotry and selfishness. But there is also heroism and self sacrifice, and the Goebbels' "Ministry of Information and Propaganda" overlooked that part. Molly Brown, Isidor and Ida Strauss, Benjamin Guggenheim, Thomas Andrews, Lightoller, Philips and Bride, are not mentioned - why should they be. Goebbels wanted to use the disaster as a weapon to poison German and Axis audiences against Britain, America, and Jews. Why honor Americans like Brown, Britains like Andrews, Lightoller, Philips and Bride, and Jews like the Strausses and Guggenheim? So he jettisoned them.

    From a technical standpoint TITANIC was an amazing film for 1943 - in fact the British film A NIGHT TO REMEMBER supposedly used some of the scenes of the sinking liner from TITANIC. But the propaganda is always there.

    Curiously, the British and Americans did not think of using the war to make a film called LUSITANIA. It might have been a sufficiently more honest answer to Goebbels lies and half-truths. The closest I have seen to that (aside from brief mentions of the Lusitania in FOR ME AND MY GAL, 'TIL THE CLOUDS ROLL BY, and NIGHT AND DAY) was a sequence in the Mitchel Leisin film ARISE MY LOVE about the sinking of the steamer Athenia in September 1939 (when it was sunk by a U-boat without warning - Goebbels and Hitler caused an information freeze on that incident). Now, perhaps, we can do films about the Lancastria disaster (bombing and strafing fleeing refugees from Dunkirk with glee - and costing 3,000 - 4,000 lives) or the Cap Ancona massacre of concentration camp victims (about 6,000 lives or more). They show, in my opinion, the selfishness, greed, and class distinctions practiced by Nazis.
    6paul_m_haakonsen

    Quite impressive...

    I stumbled upon this 1943 German produced depiction of the Titanic events by random chance here in 2023. And seeing that it was made as German propaganda during World War II, I must admit that I was a bit hesitant about watching it.

    However, I opted to give the movie the benefit of the doubt, and while the script and storyline, as written by Harald Bratt, Hansi Köck, Herbert Selpin and Walter Zerlett-Olfeniusm wasn't exactly fully historically accurate, then it was actually a surprisingly well-made movie.

    Sure, the storyline is one that I am well-familiar with already, even way before 1997 and the James Cameron movie, since I have been historically interested in the events of Titanic since I was a child back in the mid-1980s. And while there were some twists to the historical events here in the movie, I will say that directors Herbert Selpin and Werner Klingler actually put together an entertaining movie. And with it being made in 1943 and in black and white, the movie actually still holds up today.

    Needless to say that I wasn't familiar with the cast ensemble here, as I have very limited experience with the German cinema, much less the World War II era of German cinema. But the actors and actresses on the cast list put on good performances.

    Visually then I was acturally impressed with this 1943 version of the Titanic story. The props and sets were quite amazing, and really looked impressive, even in black and white. It was clear that they had put a lot of effort and money into making the interior of the Titanic come to life.

    Something that was a bit annoying about the movie was the German language. Not that I mind the language in itself, but it was just odd to have native English speaking characters in the storyline speak German. But if you can look past that, then this "Titanic" movie as quite good.

    My rating of "Titanic" lands on a six out of ten stars.
    7dbborroughs

    Despite the anti-wealth propaganda this is a good movie

    This is Titanic as you've probably never seen it before. One would think it was more a communist propaganda film than a Nazi one, since all of the villains of the piece are the rich while the poor workers are the heroes. Its a film that has a definite point of view, and right or wrong, is certainly one that keeps things interesting to watch.

    Centering on the rich owners of the White Star Line and the rich passengers on the ship, this film is in large part about how the greed of the rich led to the destruction of "society". A large portion of the early part of this film has to do with manipulating stock before the Titanic breaks a speed record allowing the owners to get even richer. The plan seems to backfire and as the rich try to pick up the pieces the ship hits an iceberg. There are also several other story lines running through this film, including a healthy dose of romance, so don't think its all business.

    While some of the interior model shots of the sinking are obviously models, the scenes of panic and the real human drama makes this a film to watch. Its understandable why the Nazi's banned this film as upsetting, these people are in panic mode. I read somewhere that this film showed the ship breaking in half. Kino's DVD doesn't appear to show that, although the final slide under the waves is really too dark to see.

    While not a perfect film its a good one. Certainly its one with enough talking points that you could very well talk about the film on every level for many hours after its finished running. Frankly There is so much to discuss that I'm having a hard time keeping this entry brief.

    If you love film, if you love Titanic stories, if you love seeing something different then see this movie.

    7 out of 10, but you'll be talking about so much more than most other movies you've seen in years.
    7Hörnla

    Not as bad as expected

    Look out for the scene when Petersen forces his Ex to enter the lifeboat and then guess who watched this movie quite carefully...James Cameron maybe? To put it short, if you are able to substract the propaganda and the resulting errors, it is better than the 1953-US version, especially regarding the special effects. Could anyone check out which ship "doubled" the Titanic? If it really is the "Gustloff" then we have a case of very bitter irony here...

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    • Curiosidades
      Director Herbert Selpin was arrested by the Gestapo during this film's production. He was found hanged in his cell the following day.
    • Erros de gravação
      It is stated in the movie that the Titanic was the fastest liner in the world, and that she was traveling at 26 1/2 knots near the beginning of the voyage. The Titanic could only travel at 23 knots, and she never traveled at her top speed before her sinking. Besides this, the RMS Mauretania was capable of 27 knots, so 26 1/2 wouldn't have been enough to beat her.
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      1st Officer Petersen: [enters a room]

      Gloria: [behind a curtain] Is anybody there?

      1st Officer Petersen: Yes, Petersen. Please put on your life jackets and go on deck immediately.

      Gloria: Oh deck? Why?

      1st Officer Petersen: I'm not authorized to give passangers audditional information.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: [comes behind the curtain] One moment. But you will give ME information.

      1st Officer Petersen: To you, as the president responsible for this, I WILL give information: The Titanic is sinking.

      Gloria: The Titanic is sinking?

      Sir Bruce Ismay: What are you saying?

      1st Officer Petersen: The Titanic is sinking.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: [laughs]

      1st Officer Petersen: We collidition with an iceberg. The Titanic is ripped open from the bow till under the bridge.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Don't tell nonsense.

      1st Officer Petersen: You'll soon see, thatever it's nonsense. In jsut a few hours it's all over and a few thousand will be on the bottom because of you

      Gloria: But we have lifeboats.

      1st Officer Petersen: The lifeboats will hold almost a third of the passengers.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: I order you to secure a lifeboat for me immediately.

      1st Officer Petersen: First: You can't give me orders, Second: according to the law: women and children go first and third I'll give you the advice to go in you cabin and get your life jacket

      [about to leave the room]

      1st Officer Petersen: .

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Stay here!

      1st Officer Petersen: What else do you want?

      Sir Bruce Ismay: Please lets talk as man to man. Forget about the earlier momant this evening. I was nervous it was a momental excitement. I beg you: get me a lifeboat.

      1st Officer Petersen: YOU should have been got the lifeboats.

      Sir Bruce Ismay: No. Be reasonable. I'll give you five - I'll give you $10 000,-. Save me a place.

      1st Officer Petersen: [pushs Ismay away and leaves]

      Sir Bruce Ismay: We'll see if I'll come along.

    • Versões alternativas
      The Allied approved censored version ran 80 minutes and omitted two scenes; one where the British officers make snide comments about Petersen's presence on board the "Titanic" and, more substantially, the entire epilogue where Officer Petersen condemns Bruce Ismay's actions during the inquiry into the sinking. The final inter-title that blames the disaster on British capitalism was also removed.
    • Conexões
      Edited into Screen Directors Playhouse: The Titanic Incident (1955)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      God Save The King
      (uncredited)

      Traditional, often attributed to Thomas Augustine Arne or Henry Carey

      (British national anthem)

      played at the first dinner

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      • 7 de fevereiro de 1950 (Alemanha Ocidental)
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      • Alemão
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