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A Rival da Esposa

Título original: When Ladies Meet
  • 1933
  • Passed
  • 1 h 25 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
6,8/10
1,2 mil
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Myrna Loy, Ann Harding, and Robert Montgomery in A Rival da Esposa (1933)
ComédiaRomance

Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaMary, a writer working on a novel about a love triangle, is attracted to her publisher. Her suitor Jimmy is determined to break them up; he introduces Mary to the publisher's wife without te... Ler tudoMary, a writer working on a novel about a love triangle, is attracted to her publisher. Her suitor Jimmy is determined to break them up; he introduces Mary to the publisher's wife without telling Mary who she is.Mary, a writer working on a novel about a love triangle, is attracted to her publisher. Her suitor Jimmy is determined to break them up; he introduces Mary to the publisher's wife without telling Mary who she is.

  • Direção
    • Harry Beaumont
    • Robert Z. Leonard
  • Roteiristas
    • John Meehan
    • Leon Gordon
    • Rachel Crothers
  • Artistas
    • Ann Harding
    • Robert Montgomery
    • Myrna Loy
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    6,8/10
    1,2 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Harry Beaumont
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Roteiristas
      • John Meehan
      • Leon Gordon
      • Rachel Crothers
    • Artistas
      • Ann Harding
      • Robert Montgomery
      • Myrna Loy
    • 31Avaliações de usuários
    • 11Avaliações da crítica
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
    • Indicado a 1 Oscar
      • 3 vitórias e 1 indicação no total

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    Ann Harding
    Ann Harding
    • Clare Woodruf
    Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery
    • Jimmie Lee
    Myrna Loy
    Myrna Loy
    • Mary Howard
    Alice Brady
    Alice Brady
    • Bridget Drake
    Frank Morgan
    Frank Morgan
    • Rogers Woodruf
    Martin Burton
    Martin Burton
    • Walter Manners
    Luis Alberni
    Luis Alberni
    • Pierre - the Servant
    Sterling Holloway
    Sterling Holloway
    • Jerome - the Caddy
    • (não creditado)
    David Newell
    David Newell
    • Freddie - the Party Boy
    • (não creditado)
    • Direção
      • Harry Beaumont
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Roteiristas
      • John Meehan
      • Leon Gordon
      • Rachel Crothers
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    Avaliações de usuários31

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    7meaninglessname

    How many remember the double standard?

    I wonder if millennials have even heard of the double standard. It used to be a real thing and a well-know phrase. It underlies one of the threads of this film's plot. Simply put, it meant it was OK for a man to have sex before marriage but if a woman did she was "a fallen woman" "a tramp" and some worse names. This begs the question of with whom the males were supposed to romp, but that's in tomorrow's lesson.

    The central character is Mary (Myrna Loy), a successful novelist, unmarried and in love with a married man. She has based the protagonist of her latest, almost-finished, novel on herself. In the end of the novel this character gets the man and all concerned, even the wife, approve because their love is something so wonderful. This makes for a clever plot device in the film, as Mary gets to discuss the work in progress with various people with various degrees of understanding how autobiographical it is. One of these conversations leads to the film's climax and is a genuinely unsettling scene.

    The hero, Jimmie (Robert Montgomery), is a type common in 1930s films, The Idle Rich Playboy With a Heart of Gold. He lectures her sternly on the importance of the double standard, gallantly explaining "Gosh, I've persuaded so many women and hated them afterward." The noble virtuous sort. Naturally he has an ulterior motive, namely Mary, whom he wants for himself, but only if legitimized by the marriage ceremony, and of course undefiled.

    Jimmie's efforts don't stop there. He manages to intrude or otherwise disturb Mary and her lover whenever they have a moment together. It took me a while to realize that he was doing so to prevent their affair from being "consummated" as they used to say, since in the year 2020 I at first assumed it had already been consummated.

    So, like many early-30s films, it's not only well done but gives you some insight into what was going on in those days. And as in many such, the final twists and turns look predictable but turn out be not exactly what you expected.

    Definitely not an "action" film and a bit of a talkfest at times. Sometimes the characters seem to be debating rather than conversing. Lightened a bit by Alice Brady as a ditsy middle-aged rich woman with a boy toy. Her character helps move the plot along in places by blabbing people's secrets, then pretending it was an accident. You know the type.
    misctidsandbits

    Lot to Enjoy

    Hey, I like both versions of this film. Not into parsing them either. The assembled talent, story, parts, clothes, set. This is the kind of movie I like to watch multiple times. First, watch the movie through. Then, maybe follow separate characters through. There's a lot going on. Then, watch the clothes. Then, check out the house, furniture, etc. There was so much style put into these. All of these elements are what made these 30's and 40's films so special. I don't understand why all the comparisons and nitpicking. This film has a lot to enjoy. It's entertainment, folks. If you don't find something so, leave it alone. Simple enough.
    Kalaman

    Thoroughly affable; a classic!

    I had a blast watching this sparkling and affable MGM classic - the first and best adaptation of Crothers' luridly sophisticated play, beautifully shot in black and white with some stylish Cedric Gibbons art direction. Elegant and effervescent, this pre-Code film is a triumph of casting: Myrna Loy, Ann Harding, Robert Montgomery, Alice Brady, and Frank Morgan all in top form. Loy is surprisingly enjoyable as the lady novelist Mary who is deeply in love with the publisher Rodge (Morgan). I agree Ann Harding steals the show; she never looked beautiful and radiant as the wife of the publisher. Alice Brady is a revelation as the whimsical society matron Bridget. The film sometimes feels too gabby but it is aided by the stars' charisma and a tremendously witty dialogue.
    savoir

    Sophisticated

    What a thought provoking and stimulating movie. One begins to sense what was lost due restriction of the Hays Commission. The svelte Ann Harding steels the show. She literally makes you fall in love with her character. Frank Morgan's role was very different from those that he later played. The sincere caring that the two female characters had for one another shows a sophistication that is as entrancing as it is admirable.
    7HotToastyRag

    Far better than the remake

    Though dated by modern standards, When Ladies Meet carried a popular message in the early part of the 20th century. It also carried a controversial argument, and both sides are explored in the film: can a wife and a mistress calmly and rationally solve their differences? If that seems interesting to you, rent this version-not the remake.

    Myrna Loy stars as a young, modern authoress who has fallen in love with her publisher, Frank Morgan. He's married, but Myrna's never met his wife, and from her point of view, he's unhappy at home. She decides to prove her point to the world by writing her next novel based on her current situation with a twist ending of wishful thinking; in the end of her novel, the young woman confronts the man's wife and explains how much she loves him. The wife is gracious and realizes the sensible thing would be to give her husband a divorce, and all parties are happy. The trouble is, no one likes Myrna's unpublished manuscript. Frank claims it's unrealistic, as does Myrna's ardent and often rebuffed suitor, Robert Montgomery.

    I won't tell you exactly what happens next, but I will say that Myrna gets a chance to test her theory with Frank's wife, Ann Harding. Before I saw this version, I tried watching the 1941 remake but couldn't get through it; now I know it was because the film was badly cast. In place of him who's so innocent she doesn't really know what she's doing is Joan Crawford. In place of the man so in love with her he refuses to look at another woman is Robert Taylor. In place of the married publisher who gets caught up in his emotions and isn't capable of rationality is Herbert Marshall. In place of the discarded wife who couldn't keep his interest at home is Greer Garson. How are any of these choices believable?

    The 1933 original is very well cast and very believable. Myrna nails the attitude of a young person certain in her convictions without knowing what they are, and yet she's not so irritating you can't forgive her for her ignorance. Frank Morgan seems troubled, and it's totally believable he might not know exactly what he wants. Ann Harding is plain enough to make you understand why Frank has strayed, but she's strong enough to make you believe she'll put up a fight. This version is very good, so if you want to watch a representation of a bygone era check it out.

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    • Curiosidades
      A remake, De Mulher Para Mulher (1941), starred Joan Crawford as Mary, Greer Garson as Claire, and Robert Taylor as Jimmy. Interestingly, Spring Byington, who created the role of Bridget Drake in the original Broadway production, did not appear in this initial film version but went on to reclaim the role in 1941, by which time she had arrived in Hollywood.
    • Erros de gravação
      In the garden at Bridget's home, Mary is next to a small statuette that holds a wreath and stands on a simple pedestal. In the next scene, the statuette's orientation has changed - the wreath is missing, and the pedestal is more complex. In the third scene, the statuette has reverted to that in the first scene.
    • Citações

      Bridget Drake: I tell you this is an awfully hard age for a good woman to live in - I mean a woman who wants to have any fun. The old instincts of right and wrong merely hold you back. You're neither one thing nor the other. You're neither happy and bad, nor good and contented. You're just discontentedly decent.

    • Conexões
      Remade as De Mulher Para Mulher (1941)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      Love, You Funny Thing
      (1932) (uncredited)

      Music by Fred E. Ahlert

      Played on the piano by Martin Burton

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 23 de junho de 1933 (Estados Unidos da América)
    • País de origem
      • Estados Unidos da América
    • Idiomas
      • Inglês
      • Francês
    • Também conhecido como
      • Cuando las damas se encuentran
    • Locações de filme
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, Califórnia, EUA
    • Empresas de produção
      • Cosmopolitan Productions
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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    • Tempo de duração
      • 1 h 25 min(85 min)
    • Cor
      • Black and White
    • Proporção
      • 1.37 : 1

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