The Defiant Ones

I found the documentary to be very pleasurable to watch, first of all. Gorgeously shot, and of course the soundtrack is incredible. It's almost worth it simply to relive the times and learn more about the men.

It's also far from any kind of objective documentary or news piece. They mostly interview people who adore Jimmy & Dre, and negative moments are framed as exceptions or learning experiences. It's not a journalistic documentary as much as a piece made by friends and fans. So long as you're fine with that, if you have any interest in their work in the music business, it's a captivating ride, even if it often comes across as a super well-produced infomercial.

I thought this was released more recently, so I was confused at how Dre's marriage was portrayed as pure bliss. I'm disappointed that this documentary about true industry titans and legends would resort to the same production gimmicks seen far too often in netflix's many docuseries', like filming doubles acting out scenes being described, or using stock footage for the same. Unnecessary and feels cheap. Everything doesn't have to be spoon fed. And so often instead of showing the person being interviewed actually talking, just showing footage of them making faces while their speech is dubbed over.

There are some interesting tidbits from music industry folk we all know and love, I just wish the production felt a little more authentic.

All I want to say is congrats to Dr. Dre and Jimmy Iovine. Also, congrats to those that put this documentary together.

What an amazing piece that shows the journey of two creative and innovate men.

I enjoyed this so much and it inspired me as much as it probably did for other people.

This dual narrative about a Brooklyn pit-bull of a record mogul (Iovine) and one of the most successful rapers-cum-producers-cum-engineers-cum-executives/directors in the game, is the most stylish (and best) episode of Behind the Music ever made, and then some. It's excitingly produced, kinetic, edited so that it's taking the usual taking heads with editing that will often play one head against another (this is extremely helpful due to the business dealings with Iovine and Interscope that could become dense too), and how music flows through this with a rhythm and juxtapositions that cant be touched.

I was also very impressed not just by finding out things I didn't know (frankly outside of Iovine with Springsteen on Born to Run I didn't know much about his career at Interscope), but the scope: this isn't only about Dr. Dre but the entire WORLD around him that he got into and loved at times and hated at others (he left Death Row before that imploded, so to speak). It reminds me of digging in to a really strong biography more than a typical doc. Oh, and it's funny at times too (Snoop catches you off guard sometimes).

I'm waiting for Primus's doc though..

PS: did Dre become the Kubrick of rap?

I approached this as a fan of Dre and not knowing much about Jimmy Iovine, who turned out to be a pretty interesting character and thought the first 3 episodes were great. Well balanced and informative. The 4th episode was the one I had most been looking forward to , knowing Eminem featured and was looking forward to seeing some insight between him and Dre, however this episode the glossed over any of the actual stories that had featured in the previous episodes with collaborators and it became an hour long Apple commercial. It was mentioned that Jimmy Iovine was a great marketer and tried to sell at every opportunity and this was one of those.

Most are aware of the megadeal of Apple buying "beats by Dre" and now the deal was done, you would have presumed the need to brown nose them would have passed. It was a massive shame as this started promisingly and just lost it's way.