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O Terceiro Assassinato (2017)

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O Terceiro Assassinato

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7/10

Not so much whodunnit as... does it matter?

I've just managed to catch up with this quite elusive film as I'm a big Akira Kurosawa film and from what I saw from the description and trailer, this would seem to be Koreeda's 'Kurosawa' film - there are obvious references to both Rashomon and High and Low.

The film indeed is clearly influenced by both those films, with a bit of Kurosawa's lesser known court drama Scandal thrown in. The plot follows a lawyer, asked by a colleague to assist with a seemingly straightforward capital punishment case. A middle aged man called Mizume is accused of, and has confessed to, the murder of a factory owner, and the theft of money. Mizume had only just been released after a long prison sentence for a previous murder. The lawyers job is to avoid the death penalty by trying to muddy the waters around the murder, and perhaps suggest it was an impulsive act and not planned (from what I can understand, Japanese law tends to have a range of gradations of homocide, with the judge ultimately deciding if it was serious enough for the death penalty).

The job of the lawyers is complicated by the apparent passivity of Mizume, and his constant changing of his story. At first, his explanations are just vague and contradictory, but he then states that he killed the man because he was paid by the mans wife to do so. As the main lawyer, Shigemora, digs deeper, he finds yet another possible motive.

I won't give away the ending, except to say that there is a 'probable' reason given in the end, but so many versions are given its not entirely clear what happened, or (seemingly the core question of the film) whether the truth is relevant at all to the operation of justice. Shigemora is caught in a Rashomon like situation of not knowing whether there is any one real truth, and whether knowing, or exposing, this truth is in any way relevant, morally, ethically or legally.

While the film sort of hedges the line between being a procedural and a more philosophical exploration of justice and truth (which reminded me a little of some recent Korean films such as Memories of Murder and Mother) the film also shows clear influence from High and Low as the main protagonist agonises over the guilty mans motivation, and starts to identify with him - shown rather allegorically in their prison conversations, with one face 'reflected' over another.

Rather like Kurosawa with Scandal and High and Low, the film seems to reflect the Directors concerns with the operation of justice in Japan, although those concerns seem pretty universal. In particular, the question of whether 'justice' and 'truth' are in any way compatible. Rather like Kurosawa's early films on the topic, the approach is perhaps a little too didactic for audiences not up to speed on the operation of the Japanese system.

As a film, I found it quite engrossing, while simultaneously a little frustrating. Koreeda is famous for a very deliberate, slow approach which in his best work absorbs the viewer into the life of his characters. Unfortunately, this type of film I think requires a more dynamic style, and the film is somewhat one-paced. Worse, it is hamstrung by some rather clunky didactic dialogue (the lawyer is followed everywhere by a young assistant, always asking stupid and naive questions which seem to have no other purpose than to explain to the audience what we are seeing), and some heavy handed metaphors. The two leads are good in the roles, but there is quite poor acting in some of the lesser roles - I think mostly due to the undercooked script and somewhat contrived plotting. I can't help feeling that Koreeda was trying to get something off his chest with this film, and found himself with a type of film making he's not really comfortable with.

So while the film is certainly quite gripping, and I found the insights into the Japanese court system very interesting, this is nowhere near the Directors best film. Its certainly worth anyones time with an interest in Japanese cinema to watch it, but be prepared I think to be a little disappointed if you are either a Koreeda fan (I certainly am), or for that matter, a Kurosawa fan.
  • GyatsoLa
  • 1 de abr. de 2018
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7/10

Very good...but the pacing will create a problem for many viewers

In recent years, Hirokazu Koreeda has been among the most exciting and interesting Japanese filmmakers. In movies such as "Like Father, Like Son", "Our Little Sister" and "Shoplifters", he tells marvelous stories about seemingly ordinary and non-cimematic sitations....stories about real people and about problems which you rarely hear about in Japanese movies. Here, in a bit of a change of pace, Koreeda takes on a story about murder....and it's complex, strange and ultimately worth seeing. Sadly, however, the pacing is glacially slow...and many viewers ultimately might give up on the film before its conclusion.

The story is about a group of lawyers who have been a pretty hopeless case to defend. It seems a man has pled guilty to murder and burning a corpse...and he's done little to help himself avoid the death penalty. In addition, his story is very inconsistent and keeps changing. Inexplicably, instead of just going through the motions as most lawyers would do in a case like this, Shigemori keeps digging to learn exactly what did happen and why...and, not surprisingly, it's not what the case originally seemed to be.

The story is slow....very, very slow. For non-Japanese audiences, this slowness makes watching the film with subtitles a bit tough...and I found myself drifting off on occasion. My advice is to stick with it....the twist is shocking and exposes some issues rarely addressed in films...especially Japanese films. Not surprising, as Koreeda seems to enjoy addressing topics which other Japanese filmmakers avoid.
  • planktonrules
  • 16 de jan. de 2019
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7/10

Crime and fatherhood

The murderer in this film has killed twice. So, why is the film called 'The Third Murder?' It's up to the viewer to answer the question. In my view, the third victim is the truth. As one of the protagonists remarks in a crucial scene: 'No one has spoken the truth'.

'The Third Murder' is a film asking a lot of questions, but answering few. To be clear: that's a good thing. What is truth? What is righteousness? Which of the two are more important for a lawyer? And for a judge? Is capital punishment always wrong? Or, in the words of the killer: should some people never have been born?

With this film, acclaimed film maker Hirukazo Kore-eda takes a different path from many of his previous films. He is known for his delicate and subtle dramas about the family life of ordinary people. This time, he has made a sort of courtroom drama (although only a small part is actually set in a courtroom) about a killer and his possible motives.

Still, the theme of family relations is not absent in this film. Far from it, in fact. Fatherhood is omnipresent. One of the most important characteristics of the killer is how he has failed as a father. The lawyer defending him discusses the case with his own father, a retired judge who has convicted the same killer decades earlier. And the dead victim turns out to have been the worst father imaginable. At least, in one version of the truth.

'The Third Murder' is a multi-layered, complex film which offers lots of surprises and twists. Kore-eda succeeds in keeping the viewer wondering what comes next. But at the same time, the result is less convincing than in some of Kore-eda's best family dramas, in which human nature is dissected by small acts and symbolic details. Not by important, philosophical questions.
  • rubenm
  • 30 de abr. de 2018
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6/10

Slow-paced courtroom drama with depth

The Third Murder is a gloomy courtroom drama that deals with complex topics like control, fatherhood and righteousness. The story revolves around young lawyer Shigemori who is asked to defend mysterious Misumi. His father once defended the strange man when he committed murder in the past and he managed to change his impending death penalty into a life imprisonment sentence. Soon after his release from prison, Misumi admits to have killed his former boss in order to steal his wallet and settle some gambling debts. However, Misumi soon starts offering different versions of what actually happened. Shigemori is unable to figure his client out but determined to win the case. He starts investigating the complex case himself and stumbles upon the victim's quiet wife and their handicapped daughter who seem to have something to hide. While trying to win the case, Shigemori doesn't only learn more about the lives of everyone involved but about his own family life.

The Third Murder is a movie that is quite tough to watch. Its pace is particularly slow. The investigation process is contradictory, difficult and inconclusive. The film doesn't offer any shifts in action or tension. The conclusion won't please those who are expecting a dynamic crime flick.

However, this film has an almost hypnotically gloomy atmosphere that gives it its very own style from start to finish. The characters are quite intriguing because they are difficult to figure out. Protagonist Shigemori almost pales in comparison to his fascinating client Misumi who meanders between being a manipulative madman, a calm sage in harmony with himself and a mentally broken elder. The dialogues are particularly well-written. The acting performances are quite credible and almost make the movie seem to be a documentary. The locations suit the sinister atmosphere very well as they manage to look beautiful despite their bleak darkness. The calm and precise cinematography completes the picture of this soulful drama.

In the end, you will appreciate The Third Murder if you are ready to watch a slow-paced courtroom drama with an inconclusive plot but intriguing characters and gripping atmosphere. This movie most certainly isn't for everyone but it's good at what it's attempting to be. Patient viewers will be rewarded with some intellectual food for thought.
  • kluseba
  • 24 de jul. de 2018
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7/10

The True Motive

The defense attorney Shigemori (Masaharu Fukuyama) is summoned to help his coworkers in a murder case. The prisoner Misumi (Kôji Yakusho) has confessed the murder of his former boss and factory owner that was burnt to ashes nearby a river to rob his wallet to pay debts in gambling. Misumi will face death penalty since thirty years ago he killed another man and was defended by Shigemori´s father. Shigemori´s purpose is to change the sentence from death penalty to life. Shigemori is not satisfied with the lack of evidences of the case and notes that Misumi changes his testimony in each interview. He decides to investigate deeper the case and questions the true motive for the murder.

"Sandome no satsujin", a.k.a. "The Third Murder", is a tribunal and fatherhood drama with a screenplay with many twists. The storyline is based on a murder case with a confessing defendant and his new attorney seeking evidences to learn the truth. In common, there is the fatherhood: Shigemori is an absent father due to his dedication to his profession. Misumi is also an absent father since he has spent his last thirty years imprisoned. The victim was an abusive father and Misumi connects to his daughter as a second chance in life. In the end, was the murder to pay a debt with the Yakuza or a righteous justice act? My vote is seven.

Title (Brazil): "O Terceiro Assassinato" ("The Third Murder")
  • claudio_carvalho
  • 26 de abr. de 2018
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7/10

The Japanese judicial system, it turns out, is very different from everybody else's

Included in the extras on the Arrow disc of this film is a very thoughtful piece by Tony Rayns. He was careful to avoid as many spoilers as possible and as it turns out I would have done well to listen to him before watching the film. The Japanese judicial system, it turns out, is very different from everybody else's and the 'trial', it would seem is no such thing. Even with the recently reintroduced jury (who seem to play little part) the defendant is pretty much assumed guilty and the whole procedure an opportunity for society, in the form of the judge, to smooth things over and be as precise as possible as to sentence. All this would have helped when watching this rather long and complicated tale. Most of the 'complications' however occur in the matter surrounding admission of guilt and the fact that here, the truth and actual guilt are a moving feast (complete with seeming unreal flat-backs) makes for a difficult ride for the uninitiated. Powerful, nevertheless, with fine central performances and whilst I felt watching the film, that one viewing would be enough, learning more has led me to suppose another viewing might be more enjoyable.
  • christopher-underwood
  • 24 de jan. de 2019
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6/10

Interesting approach but wanted more

It's interesting that Koreeda approaches an apparent thriller in the same way he approaches his family dramas. In fact, this is a drama and, as usual for him, a film about people and grey areas. Here, he addresses the difference between legal justice and what may be ethically acceptable even if a crime.

It's not an easy film, with a quite slow pace and few events that capture our interest. Despite loving thrillers and loving Koreeda's usual style, this film left me wanting much more. Nevertheless, the approach is interesting, the performances are very good, it's beautifully shot (with incredible mirror shots), and the ethical issues it raises stay with us.
  • PedroPires90
  • 10 de mai. de 2023
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6/10

A sober insight

  • Leofwine_draca
  • 29 de fev. de 2020
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10/10

Read the reviews and decided to add mine because most (if not all) got it wrong.

  • wildcat-31
  • 28 de nov. de 2018
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7/10

Murder was the case...

  • politic1983
  • 28 de mar. de 2018
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9/10

Complex, maddening, beautiful told

One of the most psychologically and thematically complex autopsies of truth, ethics, and morality I've seen. It reminds me of Rashomon in some respects, except that much of the fluidity and subjectivity of truth in this movie is found within a single character, and within societal systems of "truth-seeking," i.e., the "justice" and legal systems. Even the camera movement in this film is perfectly attuned to those themes, subtly moving into, over, and out of scenes from all directions. Koji Yakusho is superb as usual, and all other acting and casting is excellent as well, as is the score and the editing. I will be thinking on this one for a while.
  • ebeckstr-1
  • 11 de mai. de 2019
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7/10

Interesting but a bit too slow and too talky.

The great lawyer Shigomori accepts a delicate case, the defense of Misumi, accused of theft and murder. Misumi, who thirty years earlier had served a prison sentence for murder, is now facing the death penalty. Astonishingly, the accused does not seem to care at all about his lot, the best evidence being that he does nothing to help his defender avoid it.

A specialist in childhood and family relations, Kore-eda ventures here into unfamiliar territory, the judicial thriller. The film raises interesting questions about the relativity of justice while at the same time keeping up the mystery: why does the accused, whose guilt is far from being proven, play cat and mouse with his defender and put obstacles in his way when he does everything in his power to save him from being hanged? Unfortunately, too much chatter and slowness diminishes the effectiveness of the film. But there are undeniable good points : the subtle acting of the two main protagonists, the beautiful nostalgic music by Ludovico Einaudi as well as the end of the film, a little more tonic than what preceded it. Quite a fair work on the whole but not up to the level of " Nobody Knows " or " Like father Like Son ".
  • guy-bellinger
  • 19 de jan. de 2021
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4/10

Not your Usual Suspect...

  • fundaquayman
  • 2 de jan. de 2018
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7/10

The Art of Pathological Lying.

  • net_orders
  • 6 de dez. de 2018
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Koreeda's gentle and excellent movie about killing

  • gortx
  • 24 de out. de 2018
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6/10

Sloooooow, Over-Directed Film.

The positive in "The Third Murder" is the acting is top notch. In fact, at certain times, you felt as if they were going for a Hollywood-style epic drama conflict-type movie complete with a convoluted arc. Another positive is the cinematography. No complaint about that. Nut the pacing? Oy! Can you say snail's pace? Watching this film is like watching butter melt in the spring sun. This film is recommended only if you forgot where you left your Ambien pills.
  • redrobin62-321-207311
  • 22 de abr. de 2020
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7/10

Deep Moral story but Too Much Talking.

There is way too much talking in the movie. A movie should show and not tell. Many people may think its boring at first but it slowly pulls you in.

The underling story deals with themes of justice and judgment. It presents these ideas in a grey zone. It also shows the faults in the justice system.

I wish this movie was told in a different way that is more exciting.
  • jump-man95
  • 23 de mai. de 2020
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6/10

Flaws appear on a rewatch

The movie setting is definitely interesting, but the actors aren't of a calibre high enough to pull out the scenes, as a lot of the movies is just empty scenes and silent staring, for a lack of a better word.

Fukuyama probably has this habit of never touching his own face, even in moments of distress, which, in this movie is especially jarring. The movie would definitely benefit by having a director's recut shaving off those 30 minutes of empty staring time, as they don't, unfortunately, add anything to the movie. I'm not sure whether it's weak writing, or weak directing, otherwise unusual for him.

The best acting of all the main characters is to be had by Yakusho Kôji, best supporting role goes to Izumi Matsuoka.
  • ivan_dmitriev
  • 3 de nov. de 2023
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7/10

Too soft

I think it is not very suitable for Hirokazu Koreeda such subject plays and movies, he is too "soft", that need to be very incisive analysis under the law of human nature of good and evil judgment, the result only very gently, there are several interlaced in glass face overlapping photography is commendable place (as well as the deep emotional outburst points).
  • SherWanyuan
  • 14 de jan. de 2022
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8/10

Back to form

With "The Third Murder" Hirokazu Koreeda sidepaths from the more lighthearted thematics his more recent movies like "our little sister" or "after the storm" had and reenters the realm of profound dramas in which he previously worked with in movies like "Like father like son" and one of his ealier works "after life". While the light hearted stuff is enjoyable and it is not as much of a risky "hit and miss" as a movie like "afterlife" might be, I think his more deep and serious movies are definitly more impacting and memorable, thats why I think "The third murder" is definitly one of Koreedas finest works.

In this crime thriller Koreeda explores heavily the ideas of truth, justice and especially motivation. Why do people say what they say? Can we really trust anyone? This movie was just so beautifully crafted with nearlly every scene you learn new things about character you thought you know already, just to find out how wrong you were, until you dont know what to believe anymore.

The cinematography was pretty unique to his other movies I would say. He added some emotionally driven music shots that fitted quite well with the tone of the movie and made some character interactions that were already tense and interesting even better by presenting interesting camera shots.

It was only fitting for Koreeda to give Masaharu Fukuyama the lead role given how well he did in "Like father like son" and he did a wonderful job again with this role. Also one of japans best actors "Koji Yakusho" did a perfect job, like most of the time and gave his role the exact nuance i was talking about previously, with being able to make yourself question your own judgement.

Overall I can only recommend this movie. Hirokazu Koreeda is one of Japans best living directos and "the third murder" is one of his best movies and I am already looking forward of rewatching this movie.
  • roundtablet
  • 9 de jun. de 2018
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6/10

Justice vs the legal system...

This feels like another variation of justice *versus* the legal system.

The film contains a number of metaphoric and literal reflections, the superimposing images of the plaintiff and his lawyer most notably at the end, but even before then we find the lawyer pushed deeper past a sense of "how do I help my client" to "why is my client here."

There is also a parallel between plaintiff and victim, they share conflict between their daughters (we never really see the victim, well at least not face up - but as the film goes on his reputation is similarly treated as his body is in the first scene).

The back story on the plaintiff is a bit convoluted, and it even gets twisted around the lawyer's father and an older case of two murders. The film more than hints at a notion of justifiable homicide at times, but in a subtle sense to me felt like an indictment of decorum.

I left the film with a sort of hung jury feeling, but the key to one enjoying it likely lies in how they feel about Koji Yakusho's portrayal of the enigmatic Misumi.
  • ThurstonHunger
  • 24 de dez. de 2021
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10/10

Captivating and Suspenseful Whodunit

This Japanese film is gripping and suspensful, with brilliant acting and stunning, beautiful cinematography. Both a whodunit and psychological thriller, Ignore the adolescent and adolescent-minded reviewers who give it a low rating. Let them stick to action Marvel cartoons. (not that I mind brainless enetertainment every now and then).

This award winning film is for thinking film lovers. Some of the scenes are a montage of beautiful photos. The acting is superb, and the debate among the defense lawyers over strategy and truth is a reflection on morals and justice. Witty and funny, not pedantic. The main characters are all believable, well acted. The story unfolds slowly, via many tangential but related scenes. The "truth" behind the murder is both revelatory and believable. No Hollywood endings here.

In short, this is a well crafted, beautifully shot and gripping drama. If you love great moviemaking, don't miss it !
  • saniat
  • 6 de dez. de 2018
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4/10

Painful drama, very less mystery.

Watched the movie expecting to be a courtroom drama. But the movie is painfully slow and filled with useless conversation scenes. Wouldn't recommend to get mislead by ratings unless you need something to go to sleep.
  • gauravdeb
  • 3 de abr. de 2020
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8/10

a courtroom drama

  • asako
  • 13 de ago. de 2018
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8/10

Complicated Machinery of Justice

Justice is more a role of the dice than we expect.

Fresh from a third murder and freely admitting the crime, Misumi is in a surprising state of calm when first speaking to his defense attorney Shigemori. This strange behavior combines with inconsistent testimony and shifting motives to give Shigemori an unsettling feeling about his client. "Don't waste your time trying to figure him out," Shigemori is warned "let him get what he deserves." But this does not sit well with him either. Instead Shigemori attempts to understand Misumi and indulge his changing whims. Perhaps in this way they can get to the truth and the real heart of the matter.

The machinery of justice is complicated, time consuming and unwieldy. Finding the truth is more difficult than imagined. Justice is often by default. The Third Murder explores how futures are decided for people with little heed to what is done by, for and against them. The insight into the Japanese justice system is intriguing. Wonderful acting is complemented by creative camera work. There are frequent and beneficial pauses that give space for reflections and to soothing ambient sounds such as the wind in the tree branches. Still, some scenes are difficult to figure out even after turning them over in my mind continuously.
  • Blue-Grotto
  • 14 de jan. de 2019
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