Chimp Crazy

When I seen Eric Goode had done another documentary, as much I "loved" tiger king. As much it was more for the human drama side. I enjoyed the animal side of it. And all I felt was pity for them.

I'm left feeling peoplecthat take part in those exotic animal ownership have deep routed issues beyond having something that relies on you. And it makes me sad these animals are pretty freely available for them to project this onto.

This doc in the first half made me think maybe she is doing right he won't survive in a new group but the more you watch you realise how inhumane she's actually being to poor Tonka. You see the sadness in his eyes, from his jail cell she calls his home.

I thought it done a good job on the undercover journalism side and the professionals side. It gave it from both points of view and allowed her story to be shared. But ultimately the correct thing was done.

Could have cried at Tonkas new lease of life.

The other featured controversial stories were eye opening.

So it wasn't biased it showed all angles....

I've came out with the view it is wrong. They are not "children" not for "entertainment".

Right off the bat the most shocking thing about this documentary is the way these people feed their pet chimpanzees - McDonald's Happy Meals, ice cream, donuts, Gatorade - wow. I get wanting to give your pet a treat but no wonder Tonka was overweight when he was rescued. It can't be healthy for a wild animal to eat things like sugar and processed fast food.

But it just serves as an example to show you how ignorant these people are, they're not trained animal handlers or vets or wildlife specialists. It's honestly a little creepy how much these women love primates, to the point of obsession. I've always thought chimps were ugly so I don't get the appeal at all, especially knowing they can rip your face off on a whim once they get past the age of five.

... and I am so every time, it is, and should be, the default. You can see even my signin on is the genus for the whale known as orca - I AM an animal person, a 'non-human' person - so it's difficult for me to review a documentary on the treatment of animals and do so unbiased or merely to look solely at the technical merits of the docuseries and not the subject of the docuseries - which is the treatment of these chimpanzees.... or is the subject, the humans that captivate, care and grow to love them? Emphasis on the 'captivate' - but granted they DO love, I mean LOVE them and I get it, I do - I really do

I want to say that I truly believe that there are situations, where on occasion the welfare of the animal and the desires of a humans like Tonia, correspond, and I'm all but certain that she means all the best and wants all the best for her primate cousins - however.... ya However, ULTIMATELY it's definitely in the best interests of the animals (and ultimately the humans as well as CERTAINLY the environment and ecosystems of the planet) that PETA's ideology and tactics win the day - I understand that's harsh to suggest, to say that Tonia, who has ostensibly given her time torwards the betterment of these primates, as it relates to thier (and hers) immediate 'wants' and shortsighted needs but sheesh... We have to, now (more than ever and forever more) no longer function 'shortsightedly' - and yes I do realize that when an organism is born within and to captivativity - new fascists are created as to what's 'best' or even 'possible' for the individual and it's a very difficult catch-22, however and again we as the captors and the SELF PROCLAIMED "dominant" species of earth, SELF PROCLAIMED 'superior' species of earth - must not continue to behave shortsighted - we know better let's BEHAVE better, let's behave SELFLESSLY

Please, I IMPLORE YOU - and to Tonia and others , I say 'I'm so very sorry for your loss, your losses and your grief - ironically I'm filled with the same empathy torwards you as am I to the chimps - I don't want you to hurt either - I hope that you can come to peace with this and that you can find a suitable compromise where you can still visit with your loved ones (and I know they are 'loved ones') but try and do so as inhumanely (and i know that sounds like I should mean 'humane' but the definition of 'humane' is to 'act or behave like a human' and to me, that has always meant 'selfishly' as to what's best for the individual) and to do so with the most farsight as you can muster - and thank you for all of your efforts - I KNOW you mean well :)

First off, I'm a dog owning omnivore & not a fan of a lot of PETA's nonsense. Renaming fish "kittens of the sea" & whatnot. "Vegan" leather is plastic garbage in a year.

HOWEVER... here we appear to be in 100% agreement. Plus I love Alan Cumming. He's really quite lovely in his passion about this particular case.

This woman should not EVER be allowed to own ANY kind of animal again, & ESPECIALLY not a primate of any kind. NOBODY should be allowed to own a chimp, orangutan or higher primate of that nature. Every single person shown owning one was genuinely mentally unwell. Willing to abandon their husbands, children, entire lives for their ape "child." They are completely disconnected from reality & enabled by their husbands, people around them, & lax/nonexistent federal laws.

The conditions these animals are kept in are so inhumane. Tonia flat-out lies & says Tonka had "free run" of several rooms that people ALSO had access to, plus large glass windows w/ no bars. Yet not once do we EVER see her interact with him without big bars between them because while she's delusional, she's not THAT stupid (though after episode 4... apparently she is).

Those involved with this show are also HUGE enablers as well for letting her get away with what she was doing for so long.

The show glosses over the fact that she pays for the chimps by trafficking other exotics & primates. Nobody who TRULY cares for animals would be a part of that. Seriously. That's absolutely awful.

This, like most "reality" programming, feels like exploitation of people who are stupid, desperate, lonely, narcissistic &/or mentally ill. Like a 21st century version of circus freak shows.

At least in this case it's the animals that "win" (the ones that don't die anyway) and wealthy white people that suffer in the end.

These chimp mommies and PETA fanatics are all psychotic, but are on the extreme opposite of the spectrum. This documentary is very revealing about the mindset of both groups and their obsession and compulsion is a very sad and disturbing commentary on the ability of human emotion to defy logic and reason. Naturally, It would be best if Federal law would prohibit the private ownership of exotic animals. This documentary is a testament to the absolute fact that these exotic animals cannot be fully domesticated, and that is especially true for chimpanzees. These chimp mommies depicted in this film love their chimp babies so much and are so emotionally attached to them that they are willing to keep them incarcerated when they grow beyond the cute and cuddly stage. The film makers probably had no idea that they would be uncovering and depicting a serious mental illness associated with these chimp mommies. This film also reveals how members of PETA on the other hand are also compulsive and ultimately militant in their obsession to control and prohibit the private ownership of animals. Their emotions are also so out of control that they come off in the film, as they do in public spectacles, as frenzied fanatics seeking to prove their virtue to the world. This documentary is difficult to watch at times, but is informative and casts a light on a serious situation that needs to be remedied by Congress.