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Liv Tyler, Terrence Howard, Jaqueline Fleming, Charlie Hunnam, and Patrick Wilson in Punto d'impatto (2011)

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Punto d'impatto

104 recensioni
7/10

Good, but not the "Atheist Brokeback Mountain."

I think the harsh criticisms of the film are outright ridiculous—along with the excessive accolades. From a basic film critique: The Ledge definitely delivers on maintaining tension/suspense. I think the subtleties here (e.g., Liv Tyler's anti-make-up "make-up") will cause people to feel uncomfortable, but without knowing that it's all intentional.

There is a massive delusion among Christians that fundamentalism and religiously inspired bigotry only manifest in a small percentage of extremists. This just isn't true. If it was, I'd feel dramatically safer and more comfortable in public discussing atheism with a stranger!

The atmosphere is very realistic, and the uncomfortable (at times) dialog is accurate to the reality of proselytism in the guise of philosophical discussion. The movie even captures how many atheists feel when observing prayer, and this is very rare to see in the spot light.

I really wasn't convinced by any of the characters' back-stories. They seemed unnecessarily extreme in a movie that is driven by its subtleties. They really contrasted with the rest of the writing, and broke the illusion of realism. I also didn't find the acting convincing on this level. In particular: Given Shauna's history, she seemed to be unrealistically open and trusting towards Gavin—their interactions felt a bit contrived and very rushed.

Unfortunately the film doesn't explore its topics at much depth, while presenting more rudimentary/common arguments. However, this only added realism to the dialog for me. I feel it has more intellectually to offer symbolically than literally.

The Ledge displays a psychological perspective of an atheist through its atmosphere, and that alone makes it unique and worth seeing.
  • Nocturnous
  • 16 giu 2011
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7/10

A good atheist-friendly film

As an atheist, I suggest everyone to watch this and tickle their beliefs.

It's not a perfect film and it has its own flaws but it's one of the examples that makes me think that some critics may accept money from religious authorities to pan films like this with shallow and stupid reasons and criticism, which is scary.

It's the first or one of the pro-atheist feature film ever to be released in America. American people need such films a lot, so do other nations.

Matthew Chapman, an atheist who is a distant relative of Charles Darwin did a good job esp. As a screenwriter but I understand that some people can't still face the facts and love to hug their own imaginary friends.

The acting aren't that good or in some scenes even weak. But we can get the idea and educate ourselves from it. There are a lot of high budget and extravagantly high polished films with little to offer but this film can broaden some narrowed minds and enlighten some of the people.

7.3/10.
  • MehdiTaba
  • 18 ott 2022
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6/10

The Ledge Of Your Seat

  • raulfaust
  • 10 mag 2014
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Wow, lots to think about here.

I just saw this movie tonight and really enjoyed it. The plot is gripping, full of pathos, and well executed. I thought the acting was excellent and the dialogue thought provoking. Charlie Hunnam and Liv Tyler delivered outstanding performances. I felt like I've met all these people in other guise in my life, and they were all very human.

Unlike most modern cinema, rather than skirting the big issues of philosophy and meaning this movie tackles the hard questions head on. It was very refreshing to see how these ideas interacted with the characters and their motivations. I really don't want to give it away. Go see it, make your own decision.
  • kcdugan-117-236026
  • 25 lug 2011
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6/10

Great Story... Not so great acting :(

I wasn't sure how to rate this movie. Though some of the acting was pretty bad, I think the story was really good which is probably why the writer is up for an award nomination. Patrick Wilson and Terrance Howard gave great performances. Unfortunately, it was the two main actors that were lacking. The chemistry was good though, and that does make a difference. I think that the movie is definitely worth watching as long as you're not someone that requires your typical upbeat movie. It feels true to life. It was thought provoking and emotionally tragic. I liked how the story was woven together. Part of it was a bit predictable, but I don't think that mattered. You knew that it was building up to something significant. So, my rating of a 6 was because I was a bit disappointed with some of the acting. If I were rating it simply by the storyline, I would have given it at least an 8.
  • merrieamanda
  • 11 ago 2011
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6/10

Holy Wow!

I'm giving this movie 6 stars. Atheists will love this movie. LOVE this movie. I am rating it fairly because I think when making a movie targeting an atheist audience, this movie hit the bulls-eye. I personally thought it sucked.

I'm a devout Christian, and I would kindly ask you to shoot me in the face if I acted anything like this Joe guy. Unfortunately, this is the stereotype of how we're all seen. But no, f*ck that guy! He's an awful person. When he broke out in prayer during an argument with the main dude, I spat out my skittles / mike & Ike mix. I have this candy dispenser, and I mixed both together. They compliment each other well. But I digress...

It should be stated, I was never once outraged during this movie. I did not take offense or yell at my screen in argument. As soon as I realized what kind of movie I was watching, I figured it'd be a fun ride. It was. The plot itself was kind of weak, but the heavy atheist bias was highly entertaining.

So to sum up, it's a movie that makes Christians look terrible, and will make you non believers laugh and cheer. See it! I'm assuming the script was written by a young, 16 year old Atheist due to using logic learned in Atheism 101. Or actually, the conversations among students before class starts.

Lots of fun!!
  • AyoSayo_88
  • 18 feb 2012
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7/10

Mostly good. Definitely worth a viewing

  • Rat_27
  • 12 lug 2011
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7/10

Do not throw yourself from the building for a girl. Brother you're wrong.

Gavin is on the roof of a building ready to jump and Detective Hollis is sent to the scene to persuade the young man to get off. Between the two starts a conversation that we learn why Gavin wants to commit suicide.The story begins showing us Gavin's work at a hotel and the randomness makes the wife of a neighbor's to find work at the same hotel. Together with his roommate they are invited to dinner by Joe but he makes a remark to Gavin on thought he would be gay. Joe is a Christian but Gavin is an Atheist and after a conversation between them things tend to become an argue. Shana apologize behalf of his husband and after she is invited to have lunch by Gavin repeatedly between them is born an adventure about Joe finds and wants to do right in the way he knows. Meanwhile Hollis has his own family's troubles after discovering that his wife hid a secret for many years. Now Gavin is ready to do anything for Shana to live and no one can make him change his mind.

Mixture between faith desire for revenge and sacrifice are well exposed but some will seem superfluous and do not think it was necessary this kind of subject to narrate a story even though the film catches you from the beginning and keeps you in suspense until final who could have been better and that somehow change the whole movie.
  • adi_2002
  • 11 set 2013
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9/10

Complex and heart-wrenching

  • julesette
  • 27 gen 2011
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6/10

Original and interesting theme, but overall failed result

If we should see this movie as an original story, with a well structured plot, having the climax at the beginning and the explanation through flashbacks we could say it's a good movie. If we had to judge it according to its ambitious aim to confront opposite philosophies of life, well, unfortunately, it leaves much to be desired. The contrast is between too stereotyped characters, the opposite visions of life get too clichè and unexplored. The fundamentalist Christian is pathetic and not credible at all, at least his "religious" convictions are just an expression of an insane mind, and as such cannot represent a real Christian conception of life. The atheist vision of life is rendered more credibly, simply because transmitted by a sane mind as opposed to the former insane, but too clichè, anyway, and too extremist, so what could have been an interesting and thoughtprovoking confrontation is reduced to a stereotyped juxtaposition of extremist, and as such non-constructing ideas, and to a sterile conflict. Other interesting issues, such as that of trust and sincerity inside marriage, could have also been more explored, and the character of the policeman remains underdeveloped. The cast is good but not convincing, probably because entrapped in their roles deprived of real human depth, and not supported by a strong script, which diminishes the level of the final product. On the whole, the picture sounds boring for the first three quarters, a little suspenseful in the last one, but the thoughtprovoking aim is totally unsatisfied until this last part, where, to tell the truth, the picture regains some credibility. Without spoiling anything, I just underline that the picture has the merit to avoid what could have been an easy finale, and proves daring in the very end: not enough, however, to save it from an overall sense of unaccomplished aim.
  • yris2002
  • 28 giu 2011
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4/10

Two Dumb Plots for the Price of One

  • disinterested_spectator
  • 27 ott 2017
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10/10

Stunning, intelligent thriller about the dangers of heart vs. head!

It's not hard to put together a monster film. You throw one insane guy together with a hero, and add a car chase. The Ledge is nothing like this, and that's why it's so impressive.

The main struggle is between a Christian with extreme beliefs, and an Atheist who just wants out. Uniquely, it's the only film I can think of that has an openly atheist hero and an A-list cast. And ironically, the few people who have complained about this show exactly what the film is trying to portray: that some people are so intolerant of atheism that even one movie among the thousands in history is too much for them.

To me, the star of this film is Patrick Wilson, who plays the fundamentalist. Instead of becoming a monster, his portrayal links completely normal passions like love and protection and revenge that we can all identify with, but then takes it to the natural conclusion, egged on by his convictions that anything he decides to do must be blessed.

Thus the central thesis of the film -- that belief can go too far -- is played out on a small stage. This is a drama of just 6 people, but the intricate explosions between them pull at the heartstrings far more effectively than a car chase in an action film would. We hear so much about the dangers of religion in big stories like 9-11, gay rights, and abortion rights. Here is a film about the dangerous of religion in the everyday, the dramas so commonplace that everyone who watches can find something in their own lives to compare it with.

Sure, I've never walked out onto The Ledge. But something about the masterful writing and acting in this film creates an authenticity that is undeniable.

Go ahead. Rant against atheism. Show us how intolerant you are. Violent words and deeds are the response of someone backed into a corner, desperate not to lose it all, just like "Joe" is in this film.
  • johnnymonsarrat
  • 13 giu 2011
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7/10

Many, many topics

  • MikeyB1793
  • 13 ago 2011
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2/10

Potential, but...

To be a good film, the director needed to take us beyond hateful stereotypes. The husband embodied very ugly clichés that some people associate with religious-minded people. Silly. Only someone with an ax to grind against fundamentalists could enjoy such a portrayal.

In addition, the theological discussions lacked depth and sophistication. Disappointing. I'd like to see a film with dialog between realistic characters that examines matters of faith.

I did like the sparseness of the film - only a handful of characters, no special effects, no gimmicks.

A lesson for me as a writer: research people and "groups" (i.e.: Evangelicals, Gays/Lesbians, Atheists) before you portray them. People are much more complex than the stereotypical, agenda-driven views of those who fear the "group" to which they belong.
  • maryclimbin36
  • 17 gen 2012
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choices

Not the most reasonable. but fundamentals. shadows. and faith and trust and options. good performances. a touching story. and something more. a state who escapes from easy definitions. because it reminds known stories about sad love stories. and impressive thrillers. and good dramas. all in the admirable manner. the performance of Patrick Wilson is real great. maybe, because his character remains a gray one . Charlie Hunnam did a splendid job as a young man looking for sense to a life dominated by past. Christopher Gorhan gives the necessary spice to a story who, after the end of film, remains fresh and powerful. so, a special film. more Christian than you expect.
  • Kirpianuscus
  • 3 mag 2018
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7/10

A great movie

I really like this movie. There wasn't a minute in this movie which was boring. My girlfriend wanted to go to bed. Usually she goes if she is tired. But this movie enchained her. We couldn't stop watching it. The thing is you want to know why this guy is standing on the roof and why he intends to jump down to die.

The way the movie tells the story is well done. Great actors, great discussions about believing in god or not, surprising darker depths of the human soul, nice Love Story are the elements that make this movie worth seeing. Sometimes the movie is a bit philosophic but that's good and interesting.

This movie asks questions like "Do you believe in god?", "Do you become a better human being if you believe in god?", "Are you really happy?" or "What would you do for love?".

The only thing I could say now is that I absolutely advise you to watch this movie if you like this stuff I described.
  • tom-bartsch-255-454775
  • 12 gen 2012
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7/10

pretty good drama

  • botfeeder
  • 23 set 2023
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7/10

Do not Kill Yourself for LOVE, Step Back From The Ledge.

I was intrigued by the psychological theology theme of the movie – religion as a pull on one side, and LOVE on the other side. It rightfully reflects the on-going fight of mind and heart. Mind that is nurtured by religion and heart that is geared by LOVE.

The movie starts with Gavin (Charlie Hunnan) being talked to by Detective Hollis (Terrence Howard) for not jumping of the ledge of a high rise building.

The story flashbacks to Gavin a divorced man with a broken past (of losing his daughter) who is living with a gay HIV positive room-mate Chris (Christopher Gorham) one day hires a poker face Shana (Liv Tyler) who has recently come to live next doors with her husband Joe (Patrick Wison) who is a reformed drug addict and a new Christian re- born (born-gain) convert, who had married Shana after rescuing her from a miserable past life.

On one side Joe tries to bring back the atheist in Gavin and the gay Chris back to what he considers good and right things as taught in Christianity; while on the other LOVE-sparks fly between Gavin and Shana, that is known by Joe who seeks avenge on Gavin and Shana. There is also another flashback story of Detective Hollis who is facing a moment of marriage breakup.

Each one has a dilemma of one's own: To begin with is the Director Matthew Chapman has to answer the queries of a subject close to his heart – SCIENCE: believers versus non-believers; and for those among the movie characters 1) For Gavin it is to jump from the ledge to death in order to save the one he LOVES Shana?; 2) For Shana it is being loyal to her husband Joe or to her LOVER Gavin?; 3) For Joe, it is to follow the Christianity path of righteousness, forgiveness and self-pain-infliction or seek revenge on his unfaithful wife?; 4) for Detective Hollis it is about forgiving his cheating wife or divorcing her?

Director Matthew who is the great grandson of world famous writer Charles Darwin is himself a writer, director and a noted speaker on Science; he weaves in a mysterious thriller with right doses of theological moral ethical questioning religion and modern scientific outlook of life.

Everyone has acted well but special mention has to be given to Liv Tyler for being a poker faced disillusioned girl who is obligated to be loyal and faithful with her husband Joe just because he saved her, cared for her and married her on one side and a on being a desperate LOVER of Gavin on the other. Equally comes the roles enacted by Patrick Wilson and Terrence Lawrence of bringing those pain of longing in their characters that is rightfully felt by the audience; and lastly Charlie Hunnan who does a decent job of a non-believer shallow not-so-likable character of a LOVER. I think his character required some more deep connect with audiences –foundation and bearing to be empathized with.

Apart from the heart-wrenching dodgy ending that signifies no one is a winner to what life has to offer to all of us - One life, one chance, one step

I liked the movie. I will go with 7 out of 10 stars.
  • rajdoctor
  • 21 feb 2017
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7/10

Love the sinner, hate the sin!!

  • lojitsu
  • 20 mag 2017
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9/10

Psychological Thriller

I have rarely seen such an understated, effective movie before. Parts of the movie can be seen as completely predictable, but wait for it...think about it. I walked out of this movie thinking I could take it at face value and yet it nags me, makes me think. It demands attention, and discussion.

I have a tear in my mind, I'm slightly outraged; no predictable film should have such an effect on me. And yet...

Viewers of the film may nitpick the details, but they must stop at the fringes to be concerned with the superficial-alities. The meat of the film lies in debate and action - what the characters do, not blowing things up kind of action. Are you willing to put action to your most devout beliefs?

Fine acting, a fine plot; I wholeheartedly recommend this film.
  • paq5528
  • 18 set 2011
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6/10

I AM WASHED, SANCTIFIED, AND JUSTIFIED

  • nogodnomasters
  • 28 dic 2018
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1/10

Horrible. Spare yourself.

  • cmhphotog
  • 2 lug 2013
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9/10

Challenging and Thought Provoking

I saw a preview of The Ledge two months ago and instantly thought it is the beginning of a whole new genre of film that gets away from the cliché world of most films. It explores nuances of life, ethics, love and religion that are not easily classified. While it is a thriller, it is also much more. If you are not thinking about this movie for days or weeks after, you probably weren't watching. I challenge you to put yourself into each of the characters and recognize how powerful world views can influence decisions and behavior. Of all the characters, I thought the policeman and his life dilemma was most compelling. It seems to tie the whole movie together. I think the final scene of the movie was a little weak and may have actually detracted from the overall effect. I would have done the ending a little different but it is a small quibble over a great viewing experience but that is why it gets a 9 instead of a full 10. The fact that I am writing this review two months after seeing the preview is testament to the impact it can have.
  • drdray
  • 13 giu 2011
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6/10

A character-driven existential discussion...

  • MrGKB
  • 1 mag 2012
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1/10

Uninventive and mediocre

  • leburger
  • 16 feb 2012
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