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Socrate

  • Film per la TV
  • 1970
  • 2h
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
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1038
LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Socrate (1970)
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Aggiungi una trama nella tua linguaA false accusation leads the philosopher Socrates to trial and condemnation in 4th century BC Athens.A false accusation leads the philosopher Socrates to trial and condemnation in 4th century BC Athens.A false accusation leads the philosopher Socrates to trial and condemnation in 4th century BC Athens.

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    • Roberto Rossellini
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Roberto Rossellini
    • Maria Grazia Bornigia
    • Marcella Mariani
  • Star
    • Jean Sylvère
    • Anne Caprile
    • Giuseppe Mannajuolo
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    7,1/10
    1038
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • Roberto Rossellini
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Roberto Rossellini
      • Maria Grazia Bornigia
      • Marcella Mariani
    • Star
      • Jean Sylvère
      • Anne Caprile
      • Giuseppe Mannajuolo
    • 10Recensioni degli utenti
    • 8Recensioni della critica
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    Jean Sylvère
    • Socrate
    Anne Caprile
    • Santippe
    • (as Anna Caprile)
    Giuseppe Mannajuolo
    • Apollodoro
    • (as Bepy Mannaiuolo)
    Ricardo Palacios
    Ricardo Palacios
    • Critone
    Elio Seraffini
    • Prete
    Julio Morales
    • Antistene
    Emilio Miguel Hernández
    • Meleto
    Emilio Hernández Blanco
    • Ipperide
    Paco Catalá
    • Lisyas
    Antonio Alfonso
    • Eutifrone
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    Iván Almagro
    • Ermogene
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    Román Ariznavarreta
    • Calicle
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    Simón Arriaga
    • Servitore della cicuta
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    Bernardo Ballester
    • Teofrasto
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    Ángel Blanco
    • Efigene
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    César Bonet
    • Prete
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    Roberto Cruz
    • Un vecchio
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    Jean-Dominique de la Rochefoucauld
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      • Roberto Rossellini
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Roberto Rossellini
      • Maria Grazia Bornigia
      • Marcella Mariani
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    7rmax304823

    In His Cups.

    Rosselini's made-for-television movie ought to be shown in high school classes, if only to inform today's students that there was once a Democracy in a place called Greece and that it was the home of many philosophers, Socrates arguably chief among them. Generally speaking, Americans seem pretty dumb today, especially students. Tasks that were routine assignments when I was in high school are now found in Advanced Placement classes. ("The Great Gatsby", eg.) I suspect Socrates might have agreed with me. Here's a quote often attributed to him, though there's no real proof he said it.

    "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

    I'm with Socrates when he complains about the young. I wasn't with him when I was young but now that I'm old, well, I'm with him.

    At the same time, Socrates is sort of bad company when you get right down to it. After a lifetime of teaching, and at the age of seventy, he was brought before the judges in Athens accused of all kinds of crimes, from corrupting the youth of Athens and not believing in the gods to wearing white after Labor Day. After an eloquent and non-apologetic Apologia, he was sentenced to death, drank a cup of hemlock, and died content.

    Considering that this was never intended to be a Major Motion Picture, it's quite good. Jean Sylvère who plays Socrates LOOKS a lot like the bust of Socrates that many have seen, the bust with the nose broken off, although Sylvère's nose is in fact intact. And the dialog, apparently lifted from Plato, is an excellent illustration of the Socratic method.

    I understand some modern professor's use some version of the Socratic method. You don't take a position and argue it. You ask enough of the right KINDS of questions until your adversary finds himself making the argument for you. I'll give just one of the briefest examples. Socrates is about to take the hemlock when his wife, Xanthippe, runs to him, flings her arms around the old man's neck, and cries, "You've been convicted so unjustly!", to which Socrates replies over her shoulder, "Would you rather have me convicted justly?" My impression was always that Xanthippe was something of a nag but she redeems herself here.

    The values of the production are spare but adequate to the task. True, there is a lot of talk and nobody's head gets wrenched off, but the talk is so enthralling, so unusual in today's discourse, that I found it eminently followable. I suspect even high school students might get a lot out of it.
    10FilmCriticLalitRao

    This made for television film by Roberto Rossellini is a good introduction to Greek philosopher Socrates.

    Apart from his feature films,Italian director Roberto Rossellini was famous for some of his films which were made for television.It was in these films that he told the stories of some of the greatest philosophers who took birth on earth. Among these films one can mention the names of films about Blaise Pascal,Saint Augustine,René Descartes and Socrates.The film 'Socrates' is not a biography per se.It does not show all the important events which took place in the life of Socrates.It is an important film not only for viewers of cinema and television but also for admirers of philosophy.As a filmmaker,apart from 'Socrates', Rossellini reveals a lot about the times in which the great philosopher flourished.One gets to see the state of Athens when Socrates was condemned.The film 'Socrates' was not shot in Greece but most viewers wouldn't be able to recognize that the locations used in the film are in Spain.Locations are of less importance if the cast is good.This is one reason why actor Jean Sylvère has done a great job.He is perfect in his role as 'Socrates'.He looks so convincing as if the real Greek philosopher is in our midst.This is one of the main points of this film.
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    The embodied reason

    I have previously discussed Rossellini's work on metaphysics; Stromboli (suffering), La Paura (desire), St. Francis (selflessness - meant in the Buddhist way), Viaggio (memory and self).

    All of them sparse, ascetic works that take a transparent look at what informs self and put him on my list of important makers. I turn to his historic work from a later period hoping to find the continuation of that journey.

    The first thing to say is that Rossellini's turn from (all else aside) an aesthetic cinema to the encyclopedic mode shows an aging man's desire to educate. The loss is that we have the words, the lecture, but not the visual embodiment (not talking about conventional beauty) that in Viaggio paved the way for Antonioni.

    The second is to see what the film isn't; there's no drama to speak of, no passion or anxiety that perturbs, it's a practical unfolding of one man's challenge to his own self to embody his beliefs. To clarify: it's not that there isn't drama around the man, it actually has the most dramatic conflict, the trial. It's that Socrates is not swept in it: and this is the point of the film.

    In Anglo hands the film would be much like any of those on Jesus, with much torment and lachrymose redemption. None of that here; Socrates refusal to commute death for exile or escape from prison is not a mute idealism, he grounds why it's not an option as a practical matter: it makes sense. There's a funny scene where he's scolded by his wife for being a no good man-about-town who doesn't bring in any money.

    Then to see what it actually is. It's a grounded search for reason, though the important distinction is made from mere intellectualism; not words on paper, dead language that you can't interrogate, but the living reason that is in touch with an 'inner voice' and actively searches for truth. An effort for relative truth, clarity as drawing limits on what we are able to say instead of presuming to say anything.

    So not any reason, it's why Socrates rejects the orator who would defend him in court with flattery. It's clear that when he talks of knowledge he means skiing on what's possible to know and not just knowing trivia or nice expression. Rossellini grounds the questioning search in an embodied understanding of god as everything we see, which Socrates' opponents satirize him about as talking about the clouds.

    All around him however we see tyranny, ego and ignorance, so how is any of this to take root in daily life?

    The powerful admission is that you have to make life out of it, embody. Not just say things then when it's not convenient to follow through do something else, that way life becomes meandering rationalization. 'Make it, don't fake it'. No easy thing, therein lies the adventure.
    8diogenes99

    A fine depiction Socrates' demise

    This is an extremely enjoyable account of the last part of Socrates' life, including his trial and execution. Roberto Rossellini gives us a glimpse into Socrates' discussions in the marketplace and the political events that lead to the trial. Jean Silvère is a perfect choice for Socrates. Except for his wife, played by Anne Caprile, the supporting cast's acting is a bit stiff. Some of the sets have painted backgrounds, but by and large the imagery gives one the feeling of being in Ancient Greece. The English subtitles are sometimes hard to keep up with because there is a lot of fast dialog. The script, however, is strong and captures the essence of the Platonic view of Socrates' last days. I highly recommend this movie.
    6generalmuss

    The Rossellini method

    In the first part of Socrate, Rossellini crams too many historical events for a one hour time span. This results in the characters themselves explaining too much to fill in the gaps for the viewer. The rest of the time we watch Socrates as he strolls around with his students, reciting his most overused quotes.

    The second part, which is essentially Socrates' apology and his last days, feels almost like a different film in pace and gravity. But Plato's Apology of Socrates is ready-made material to ensure a great, dramatic scene. Another flaw is the awkward contrast between the professional actors playing Socrates and his wife Xanthippe against the rest of the characters, who are non-actors (a common practice in the neo-realist era of Italian cinema). For example, Meletus - Socrates' main accuser - seems completely inept at the crucial scene of the trial, like some teenage urchin that the director picked up from the street a few hours before filming.

    On the positive side, it is refreshing to actually hear Mediterranean sounds for once in a film about Ancient Greece. Crickets and random dog barking are natural sounds still heard in Greece. It is not a small detail, as it works to create a strong sence of time and place. All and all, the film is watchable, albeit with quite a few flaws.

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      Roberto Rossellini reconstructed Athens with the use of a mirror/prism, with the Schufftan effect (Metropolis). He also used the Pacino telephoto lens, remote controlled and it had a monitor, so he could control, view and create very intense long shots.
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      Socrate: If you had listened to me, for years I've been urging you to realize that there is but one good: knowledge. And there is but one evil: the presumption of knowledge.

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      Featured in Roberto Rossellini: Il mestiere di uomo (1997)

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    • Data di uscita
      • 17 giugno 1971 (Italia)
    • Paesi di origine
      • Italia
      • Spagna
      • Francia
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      • Italiano
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      • Orizzonte 2000
      • RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana
      • Televisión Española (TVE)
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