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Non giocate con il cactus

Titolo originale: O.C. and Stiggs
  • 1985
  • R
  • 1h 49min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
5,3/10
1554
LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Non giocate con il cactus (1985)
Buddy ComedyCommedia per adolescentiSatiraCommediaRomanticismo

Aggiungi una trama nella tua linguaO.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, wh... Leggi tuttoO.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, who embody all they detest: the middle class.O.C. and Stiggs aren't your average unhappy teenagers. They not only despise their suburban surroundings, they plot against them. They seek revenge against the middle-class Schwab family, who embody all they detest: the middle class.

  • Regia
    • Robert Altman
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Tod Carroll
    • Ted Mann
    • Donald Cantrell
  • Star
    • Daniel Jenkins
    • Neill Barry
    • Jane Curtin
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    5,3/10
    1554
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
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      • Robert Altman
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Tod Carroll
      • Ted Mann
      • Donald Cantrell
    • Star
      • Daniel Jenkins
      • Neill Barry
      • Jane Curtin
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    • 22Recensioni della critica
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    Daniel Jenkins
    Daniel Jenkins
    • O.C.
    • (as Daniel H. Jenkins)
    Neill Barry
    Neill Barry
    • Stiggs
    Jane Curtin
    Jane Curtin
    • Elinore Schwab
    Paul Dooley
    Paul Dooley
    • Randall Schwab
    Jon Cryer
    Jon Cryer
    • Randall Schwab Jr.
    Laura Lanoil
    • Lenore Schwab
    • (as Laura Urstein)
    Victor Ho
    • Frankie Tang
    Ray Walston
    Ray Walston
    • Gramps
    Donald May
    Donald May
    • Jack Stiggs
    Carla Borelli
    Carla Borelli
    • Stella Stiggs
    Stephanie Elfrink
    • Missie Stiggs
    Amanda Hull
    • Debbie Stiggs
    James Gilsenan
    • Barney Beaugereaux
    Tina Louise
    Tina Louise
    • Florence Beaugereaux
    Cynthia Nixon
    Cynthia Nixon
    • Michelle
    Greg Wrangler
    Greg Wrangler
    • Jefferson Washington
    • (as Greg Wangler)
    Dennis Hopper
    Dennis Hopper
    • Sponson
    Alan Autry
    Alan Autry
    • Goon
    • Regia
      • Robert Altman
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Tod Carroll
      • Ted Mann
      • Donald Cantrell
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    foxion

    An amazingly bad film.

    Like many others who have left comments about this movie, I was first introduced to O.C & Stiggs through the National Lampoon stories. I can't remember ever laughing at anything I read as much as I laughed at the story of O.C. & Stiggs and their summer vacation. Now, I'm not judging the movie O.C. & Stiggs based on my dissapointment on how closely or remotely it followed the print version. I'm basing my comments soley on the movie itself. This is a bad movie. This is an amazingly bad movie. This is such an amazingly bad movie it must be one of the worst movies ever. It is that bad. This movie is bad in every way a movie can be bad: script, acting, directing, cinematography, lighting, sound, and probably gaffing, best boying, and catering. What the hell happened? Having Pauley Shore, Keanu Reeves, or even Kevin Costner standing in front of a video camera for an hour and a half reading the original story from the magazine would have been 10 times funnier than this..movie.
    7evanston_dad

    I Expected the Worst, But I Liked This One

    Perhaps it's because I came in with bottom-of-the-barrel expectations for a movie I've heard absolutely nothing good about, but I found myself enjoying "O.C. and Stiggs" quite a lot. I know from experience how bad bad Altman can be, so I expected the worst. But if you share Altman's smart-ass sense of humor, as I do, I can't help but think that you'll find this movie pretty funny.

    The very nominal plot has something to do with two adolescents (the O.C. and Stiggs of the title) spending one summer terrorizing an affluent, middle class family because the patriarch (played with just the right amount of buffoonery by Paul Dooley), head of an insurance company, has denied insurance for O.C.'s grandfather (played uproariously by Ray Walston). But let me stress the word "nominal." This narrative loosely holds together what can otherwise only be described as controlled chaos. In typical Altman fashion, the film is an assemblage of barely choreographed scenes in which actors wander around ad-libbing to their hearts' content. This is not an insult. This style has resulted in some dreadful bombs for Altman, but it's also been responsible for some of his inspired classics. "O.C. and Stiggs" is nowhere near the latter, but it's certainly not the former either.

    Altman said in interviews that he intended "O.C. and Stiggs" as a satire of all of those naughty "boys behaving badly" comedies popular in the 1980s. I don't know that it's so much a satire of those films as it is on people in general. It's full of a sneering disdain for a sort of vapid, bourgeois lifestyle that rears its head in much of Altman's work. Scottsdale, Arizona is depicted as a bland land of lawn ornaments, plastic furniture and man-made nature. We don't learn much about O.C. and Stiggs, and they're not even necessarily that likable, but neither are the Schwabbs, the family they torment, and anyway Altman doesn't really ask us to root for anyone but rather just enjoy the silliness. The funniest thing about the film is that the Schwabbs seem to be completely unaware that they're being tormented and instead wander around in a self-absorbed daze.

    The rest of the cast includes Jane Curtin, as the boozy matriarch; Martin Mull, as a designer of African fashions; Cynthia Nixon, as a love interest; Jon Cryer, as a dweeb; and best of all, Dennis Hopper, reprising his role from "Apocalypse Now," and who features significantly in the film's climax, a shootout in the Schwabbs' bomb shelter.

    It would appear that time has been kind to this utterly dismissed film from the mid-1980s, and you could do much worse from Robert Altman's canon alone, let alone from other films in the same genre.

    Grade: B
    5zetes

    One of the very few Altman films I didn't like

    Definitely one of Altman's worst, though perhaps not quite as bad as some may lead you to believe. The producer wanted Altman to make a teen comedy in the vein of Porky's or something. Altman hated those kinds of movies, and decided to make a parody of one instead. Unfortunately, you just can't make a parody of a comedic genre. It never works. O.C. and Stiggs comes off as just a wacky teen comedy as directed by Altman; the only difference is that the characters are slightly more obnoxious and, instead of being fun anti-heroes, they're detestable. Which makes for a rather unpleasant movie. The script (or Altman's alterations – he apparently hated the script as written, so who knows how much he changed it) is extremely sloppy as well, especially as it nears the end. There are some amusing moments along the way, so it's not a total bust. It does contain one of the funniest dialogue exchanges I've ever heard: "How would you like to have more fun than you've ever had in your life?" "I don't know. I've had a lot of fun. I have Legos, you know."
    6Quinoa1984

    Altman's "teen comedy" is neither good nor bad, it's simply crazy, weird, all over the place, all the faults it has it's still ALL Altman

    No, it's not a failure. It's not good either. It's simply one of the oddest ducks of 80's comedies - trying to be both an actual National Lampoon movie (it's based on one of the stories from the magazine, which I'm not sure), and a satire of them and teen comedies. Trouble is, I couldn't really tell. It felt more like Altman reaching further than he did with MASH to make a completely anarchic, tasteless comedy about a couple of guys (in this case Daniel Jenkins and Neill Barry are FAR from the talents of Eliot Gould and Donald Sutherland) who just want to stir up the sh*t in middle-upper class Arizona and have some fun. Only this time there's no war going on or people to fix up in a hospital. What is there to do? Uh...

    I was glad it wasn't just some assembly-line thing. It is an Altman movie, to the bone, so loose and free that you have to watch moment to moment because there isn't anything CLOSE to a plot here. It's just a semblance of vignettes around what OC and Stiggs did on their summer break (not their real names, and as OC says, one of my big laughs, is that "Call me OC, it sounds more ridiculous"). Make a wild car that is $100 off the lot and can be decked out to look like a monster-truck- Studebaker? Check. Bring a machine gun as a wedding present for a very unsatisfactory wedding? Check. Make friends and give out t-shirts from the Schwab insurance company to Melvin Van Peebles? Oh hell yeah a check. How about a trip to Mexico to snag an African band to later crash a theater production on its opening night? Uh... hey, it IS a National Lampoon movie.... sorta, not really, whatever.

    I was fascinated by OC and Stiggs, no question there. Sometimes I was laughing, more for the little beats of oddball behavior that Altman was always known for sprinkling in. Ray Walston as the grandfather, while no more or less one note than any of the other supporting (or lead?) characters, is maybe the funniest most consistently, rambling about extreme acts of violence in stories and making outrageous omelette's and drink concoctions that he correctly predicts make one more prone to sex. And while he's not as funny as I'd hoped, Dennis Hopper also has a fun appearance playing his Photo-Journalist from Apocalypse Now - that is, if the Photo-Journalist ended up having lots of guns, ammo, and marijuana to grow out in the fields, uh, somewhere.

    The whole project, from some of the casting (hey, Jane Curtain and, uh, future stars Cynthia Nixon and Jon Cryer) to how bizarre some of the set pieces get (skinny dipping again in the Schwab's pool? Hey, there's a tiki backyard next door!), is like a big stunt on Altman's part. And why not? His career was full of them, from doing a shaggy-dog take on the Long Goodbye to his madcap take on Popeye. But the main characters are so obnoxious that the power of the satire just became lost, and I wasn't sure if the line not simply got blurred between doing an actual teen comedy and a satire of it but that the line was screwed altogether. Over time the film seems to have gotten a small cult - maybe apologists, maybe people who genuinely like it after it unfortunately (or maybe rightfully) bombed after being shelved for two years - but it still doesn't make it top shelf work from this director. The style is just so all over the place that maybe, at best, it could work as a wild-card party movie, like throw it on, dip in and out, get laughs where they suddenly, outrageously, pop up, and skip over some of the lesser points. C+
    9vlvetmorning98

    A Robert Altman film..."you know, for the kids"

    By far the most wacked-out teen comedy of all time, this bizarre Robert Altman nugget was adapted from a single issue of National Lampoon magazine, the 1982 "Utterly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs" special. The plot is simple: O.C. and Stiggs are two bored, horny, Arizona high schoolers who find immense satisfaction in tormenting the Schwab family (the patriarch is fabulously portrayed by Altman regular Paul Dooley). Over summer vacation, they canoe to Mexico, buy a machine gun from Dennis Hopper, organize a King Sunny Ade concert, and try to woo Cynthia Nixon. There's no sentimentality in this film whatsoever. The two leads are unlikable, homophobic morons, but it still adds up into a remarkably funny endeavor. If you're not in the mood for something with a profound statement to make and enjoy laughing at bizarre non-sequiturs, give this film a try.

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      Post-production was finished in 1984, but the film wasn't released until three years later. MGM shelved the film after poor test screenings, only granting it a limited release in 1987.
    • Blooper
      When the helicopter lands in Schawb's yard, Goon's arm can be seen hiding behind the seats. The pilot just leans over so that Goon can jump out from behind and look as if he was the pilot.
    • Citazioni

      Mark Stiggs: [specifying the Gila Monster car to Ms Bunny] OK, Ms. Bunny! Number 1, we want zero miles to the gallon.

      Oliver Cromwell 'O.C.' Ogilvie: Right. No MPGs. It has to be a vulgarlay inefficient mode of trasnportation.

      Mark Stiggs: Loud, real loud. It has to generate a terrifyingly seismic field of noise. If we could combine really loud noise with the ugliness of poverty, we'd have the ideal car.

      Mark Stiggs: ...making people think that you're poor, so they know you've got nothing to loose if they crash into your car....

      Mark Stiggs: Here's a list of places I want this car to be totally unwelcome. Number one: funerals. Number two: affairs of state, you know, real formal ones...ones with...chamber music. Number three: wet golf greens. Number four: the acropolis.

      Oliver Cromwell 'O.C.' Ogilvie: Ah, yes. Driving this car right in the acropolis should be completely horrifying to every civilized guy on earth.

    • Connessioni
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      Mo Ti Mo
      (song title uncredited)

      Written by King Sunny Ade

      Performed by King Sunny Ade and his African Beats

      Special music and appearance by King Sunny Ade and his AFRICAN BEATS

      Courtesy of Island Records, Ltd.

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    • Data di uscita
      • 1985 (Stati Uniti)
    • Paese di origine
      • Stati Uniti
    • Lingua
      • Inglese
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    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Sonoran Desert, Arizona, Stati Uniti
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      • National Lampoon
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    • Lordo Stati Uniti e Canada
      • 29.815 USD
    • Fine settimana di apertura Stati Uniti e Canada
      • 6273 USD
      • 12 lug 1987
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