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Fiore di carne

Titolo originale: Turks fruit
  • 1973
  • R
  • 1h 48min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
7,1/10
12.338
LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Rutger Hauer and Monique van de Ven in Fiore di carne (1973)
DramaRomance

Un giovane amore deve lottare contro un vecchio problema.Un giovane amore deve lottare contro un vecchio problema.Un giovane amore deve lottare contro un vecchio problema.

  • Regia
    • Paul Verhoeven
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Gerard Soeteman
    • Jan Wolkers
  • Star
    • Monique van de Ven
    • Rutger Hauer
    • Tonny Huurdeman
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    7,1/10
    12.338
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • Paul Verhoeven
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Gerard Soeteman
      • Jan Wolkers
    • Star
      • Monique van de Ven
      • Rutger Hauer
      • Tonny Huurdeman
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    • 33Recensioni della critica
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    • Candidato a 1 Oscar
      • 1 vittoria e 1 candidatura in totale

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    Interpreti principali39

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    Monique van de Ven
    Monique van de Ven
    • Olga
    Rutger Hauer
    Rutger Hauer
    • Eric
    Tonny Huurdeman
    Tonny Huurdeman
    • Moeder
    Wim van den Brink
    Wim van den Brink
    • Vader
    Hans Boskamp
    • Winkelchef
    Dolf de Vries
    • Paul
    Manfred de Graaf
    • Henny
    Dick Scheffer
    • Accountant
    Marjol Flore
    • Tineke
    Bert Dijkstra
    • Functionaris
    Bert André
    • Functionaris in Limburg
    Jon Bluming
    • Beveiliging
    Paul Brandenburg
    • Bruidegom
    Suze Broks
    Suze Broks
    • Eric's One night stand
    • (as Suzie Broks)
    David Conyers
    • Amerikaan
    Truus Dekker
    Truus Dekker
    • Serveerster
    Marijke Frijlink
    Marijke Frijlink
    • Moniek
    Reinier Heideman
    Reinier Heideman
    • Politie Agent
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      • Paul Verhoeven
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Gerard Soeteman
      • Jan Wolkers
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    9haildevilman

    Excellent

    Best Dutch film ever.

    A pre action movie Rutger Hauer proves he can act.

    The full romantic scrambles this film shows probably hit home for so many people. Hence it's success.

    It continues to be successful. It recently played Tokyo again in a few art houses and people were lined up. Not just the Dutch expats either, EVERYBODY.

    It well deserved its nomination. If the Genius Kurosawa hadn't been nominated, this would have won.

    Rutger, we hardly knew ye. HAIL!
    8erwan_ticheler

    The Epitome of 70's Dutch Cinema

    "Turks Fruit",based on the novel written by the legendary Dutch writer Jan Wolkers,is a true Dutch classic. That doesn't mean that much since my country isn't a major player in World cinema.Yet this film is very good and very famous.

    It was voted the best Dutch film ever a few years ago when a national poll was held in Holland.It's tough to agree with that,since I haven't seen all the classics but it's right up there,that much is true.

    The sex and dirty images of poo are not for everyone to see,yet it is essential to the free culture of Amsterdam in the 1970's.

    Amsterdam was the center of the world in the 70's,so my mother told me. That was probably the reason why she left France (she is French) and came to Amsterdam."Turks Fruit" shows a very poignant picture of the city at that time and the sexual liberation of them days.

    The directing by the,at that time,young Paul Verhoeven is splendid and it's no mystery why he left Holland to go to Hollywood.His talents are clear but another reason was that he was misunderstood in Holland so he said himself.

    The camera work is great,but that's no surprise since it's done by one of the greatest cameramen Jan de Bont (who became famous in the 90's with his action classics "Speed" and "Twister",especially "Speed" show the superb talents of de Bont when it comes to camera work).

    The film also launched the careers of Rutger Hauer and Monique van de Ven. Van de Ven stayed in Holland,playing in some of the best Dutch films and Hauer went to Hollywood and gained cult fame when he starred in "Blade Runner",a terrific performance by Hauer.

    Verhoeven and Hauer would team up again 4 years later to make the Dutch war classic "Soldaat van Oranje".

    "Turks Fruit" is truly the epitome of 70's Dutch cinema with it's liberated sex approach that would echo in several other Dutch films in the 70's and 80's.

    Very important for Holland but maybe too much for the rest of the world,especially for the rather prudish Hollywood.

    Essential viewing though for everyone who wants to know something about the Dutch cinema. 8/10
    10Boba_Fett1138

    Love and drama.

    "Turks fruit" has been voted best Dutch movie recently. I can see why, "Turks fruit" is a delicious treat and perfectly mixes an heavy love story with dramatic and realistic moments life is filled with.

    "Turks fruit" is fine example of good storytelling. The movie is carried by the characters that are very realistically portrayed. Rutger Hauer, Monique van de Ven and Dolf de Vries really are some fine actors. Paul Verhoeven shows with this movie that he also is a great actor director. This movie marked the first real big movie-role breakthrough for both Hauer and van de Ven and also for Verhoeven himself.

    The movie is filled with some typical and subtle Dutch humor which I really enjoyed in this movie. Some of the characters might seem a bit odd but I can assure you that all of the characters are very realistic and are nothing uncommon here in the Netherlands.

    The movie is really daring, especially for its time and is not afraid to show some 'skin' and some explicit scene's. But all of it is done with lots of style so the movie never becomes offensive. The movie is also filled with what later become some typical trademark Verhoeven gore. But all of it serves a purpose in the movie, so it never feels forced like its deliberately put in the movie, to shock the viewers. Verhoeven is a master in this. This is the first Verhoeven movie were he uses the same style which he still puts in his movies these days. The first typically, recognizable Verhoeven movie you can say.

    The nice little soundtrack is composed by Rogier van Otterloo who later also worked on "Soldaat van Oranje" and "Keetje Tippel", with Verhoeven again. The harmonica solo's are recognizably done by Toots Thielemans who might very well be the best harmonica player of all time. The cinematography is done by Jan de Bont and gives an at times nice and realistic view of the Netherlands in the '70's.

    Not THE best Dutch movie of all time (in my opinion that still is "Soldaat van Oranje") but this movie absolutely, most certainly is a romantic/dramatic masterpiece with lots of symbolism and unforgettable and powerful moments in it, that perfectly shows the early talent of Verhoeven, Hauer and van de Ven.

    10/10

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    8Galina_movie_fan

    "Love Story" told by Paul Verhoeven

    Few days ago, I watched the documentary Z Channel: A Magnificent Obsession (2004) about a channel that had brought the great and unavailable anywhere else films to its 100, 000 lucky subscribers in LA in 70s - 80s. While enjoying the clips from many Foreign and Independent movies that were the best part of documentary, I was able to recognize the movie that I saw many years ago in Moscow and still remember well, I could not only recall the title. I remember that the movie was Dutch, very erotic – in the raw, brutal, twisted yet beautiful and passionate way. Watching "Z Channel..." I was happy to instantly recognize "Turks fruit" (1973) aka "Turkish Delight" made by Paul Verhoeven in 1973. I checked with Netflix, the movie was available; I bumped it up in my queue and just finished watching it. My memory served me well - Verhoeven's early film is as naturalistic, earthy, brutal, erotic, humorous, poetic, poignant, and captivating as I remember it. Based on the novel by Jan Wolker, "Turkish Delight" stars young, hot, very sexy (and I mean it - VERY SEXY) Rutger Hauer as a bohemian free spirited and often cruel sculptor Eric and even younger Monique van de Van as his wife Olga, child-like yet as sensual as Eric was, "the light of his life, the fire of his loins". The film that describes their stormy relationship has become the most financially successful Holland's film that was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Foreign Language film and was proclaimed by Jan Wolker a "75% masterpiece".

    There are not very many directors in the world that can create the atmosphere of raw sensuality as well as Verhoeven (of his Dutch period, especially). Verhoeven is known for uncompromising approach to his work, fiery temperament, and aggressive movie-making. Joe Ezsterhaus who worked with Verhoeven on two films said about him: "The guy is like his movies: brilliant, mercurial, very daring, perverse, a wonderful series of paradoxes and contradictions..." "The Turkish Delight" is all that and I love it but I can understand how its graphic sexuality, more than one disgusting and revolting scenes (but they had to be in the movie) and crude behavior may put off a lot of viewers. Be prepared, "Turkish Delight" is delightful but it is very intense and often not easy to watch.

    8/10
    7jhclues

    Life and Love, As Interpreted by Paul Verhoeven

    There are many ways in which love and passion can be manifested in a relationship, but if it is to prevail, it is essential that both sides complement one another, physically, emotionally and psychologically; the feelings borne on the wings of romance must above all else be mutual and deeply instilled on both sides. When they are not, the end result must necessarily be estrangement; it is a law-- not of man, but of nature. In `Turkish Delight,' director Paul Verhoeven dissects a relationship born of passion, examines the ramifications of the attitudes and actions of the individuals involved-- as well as the couple they become-- and offers the results to his audience for consideration. Is it, though, a story of love and passion? Yes. But it comes via a route more analogous to the sensibilities of David Cronenberg than Ang Lee; it is decidedly more Craven than Capra. So don't come to this film expecting tender moments; instead, prepare yourself for an offering that is provocative, that is sexually explicit, and finally, graphic in it's more violent moments. This is a film for neither the fainthearted nor the modest, but for the discerning viewer only.

    In the first few minutes of this film, we are introduced to Eric Vonk (Rutger Hauer), an artist with a passion for his work, but even more so for experiences that lean more toward the wanton and carnal in aspect. We instantly become voyeurs as he proceeds to overindulge in a series of lusty encounters, an extreme display of irresponsible debauchery that cannot but impel a most unpropitious and subjective first impression on behalf of the viewer, who is forced to bear witness to a man of obvious and insatiable appetites and a tentative moral code. Or so it would seem, initially.

    As the story unfolds, however, we begin to understand Eric and what it is that compels him thus; and it begins with a photograph of a beautiful young woman named Olga (Monique van de Ven), the woman with whom Eric once shared his life, love, passion and, yes, his lust. It is obvious from the outset that she is no longer with him, which evokes the question that has to be asked: `Why?' And from that inauspicious beginning, a picture emerges that may not be pretty, and is, in fact, fairly disconcerting. By the end of the film, though, all questions pertaining to Eric Vonk and the mysterious Olga have been answered. The screen grows dark then; but the images to which the viewer has just been made privy are ones that are going to remain in the mind's eye for some time afterwards.

    Working from a screenplay by Gerard Soeteman (adapted from the novel by Jan Wolkers), Verhoeven establishes himself as the antithesis of Nora Ephron, presenting his `love' story in terms that are decidedly raw and primitive. Though he does manage to establish the fact that Eric does have deep love for Olga, it is lust that seemingly dominates the picture, and though there is a dramatic twist to the story, it all comes across more like a twisted fairy tale than anything else. Verhoeven uses violence to express the same sentiments Ephron, for example, does through compassion and empathy. But that is his style. It's his prerogative; it's his turf; it's his film. And Verhoeven as much as says to his audience that if you don't like it, you can leave. It's not as if he doesn't have respect for his viewer, though; rather, it seems as if it's something he simply has not considered.

    If you can get past the baggage with which Verhoeven inexplicably saddles his own film, there is an interesting, if not riveting, story to be found. But, like Cronenberg's affinity for slime and things that ooze, Verhoeven apparently cannot escape his affinity for violence, even when it works to his detriment. In the case of this film, it results in certain scenes that are too avant-garde to be effective within the context of the overall film. These are scenes in which Eric is hallucinating or day dreaming about particular aspects of his relationship with Olga. They are abrupt insertions into the narrative that simply do not mesh with the flow of the film. The seam left by the weave, as it were, is just too apparent. Beyond the shock value (which is minimum), it just doesn't work.

    On the positive side, Verhoeven does extract worthy performances from his stars, Hauer and van de Ven. Hauer, in his feature film debut (and at this point some eight years away from his American film debut in `Nighthawks') displays a natural ability in front of the camera and seems comfortably uninhibited, which enables him to use his rugged good looks to the best advantage. Eric is a complex character of single minded intent, which Hauer conveys quite ably in his performance. Van de Ven also makes her motion picture debut here, and beyond her obvious beauty there is a definite indication of the talent that would soon bring her international acclaim (though her star has yet to rise above the American landscape). Her portrayal of Olga is convincing, and her myriad charms are neither misplaced nor misused by Verhoeven here. And commendably, she manages to transcend the mere use of her physical attributes and create a memorable character with a truly affecting performance.

    The supporting cast includes Tonny Huurdeman (Moeder), Wim van den Brink (Vader) and Dolf de Vries (Paul). This film is definitely not for everyone; it fails as entertainment, but succeeds as an examination of the extremes to which we, as humans, are susceptible. `Turkish Delight,' then, will be received in any number of different ways. Some will be shocked and appalled by what they see on the screen; others will be offended. And still others will understand that what is depicted here is a very real reflection of things that go on in a very real world, as interpreted by Paul Verhoeven. 7/10.

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      In 1973, this was the most successful Dutch movie ever, and with 3.3 million tickets sold, it was still the most attended Dutch movie in The Netherlands during its 50-year anniversary in 2023.
    • Blooper
      During the thunderstorm, when Eric is walking towards Olga who is standing outside in the rain, the reflection of a spotlight providing "lightning" can be seen on the surface of the door.
    • Citazioni

      Eric Vonk: I screw better than God.

    • Connessioni
      Featured in Adam & Yves (1974)
    • Colonne sonore
      Meisjes met rode haren
      (uncredited)

      Written by Manfred Oberdörffer (uncredited) & Hans Georg Moslener (uncredited)

      Dutch lyrics by Pim van Zijl (uncredited)

      Performed by Arne Jansen (uncredited)

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    • Data di uscita
      • 22 febbraio 1973 (Paesi Bassi)
    • Paese di origine
      • Paesi Bassi
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      • Olandese
      • Inglese
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    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Erasmus Universiteit Woudestein, Rotterdam, Olanda Meridionale, Paesi Bassi
    • Azienda produttrice
      • Verenigde Nederlandsche Filmcompagnie (VNF)
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      • 800.000 NLG (previsto)
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