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Stasera ho vinto anch'io

Titolo originale: The Set-Up
  • 1949
  • T
  • 1h 13min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
7,8/10
10.706
LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Robert Ryan and Audrey Totter in Stasera ho vinto anch'io (1949)
BoxingFilm NoirGangsterTragedyActionCrimeSport

Aspettando la solita sconfitta, un manager di boxe accetta delle scommesse da un criminale, senza dire nulla al suo pugile.Aspettando la solita sconfitta, un manager di boxe accetta delle scommesse da un criminale, senza dire nulla al suo pugile.Aspettando la solita sconfitta, un manager di boxe accetta delle scommesse da un criminale, senza dire nulla al suo pugile.

  • Regia
    • Robert Wise
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Art Cohn
    • Joseph Moncure March
  • Star
    • Robert Ryan
    • Audrey Totter
    • George Tobias
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    7,8/10
    10.706
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • Robert Wise
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Art Cohn
      • Joseph Moncure March
    • Star
      • Robert Ryan
      • Audrey Totter
      • George Tobias
    • 107Recensioni degli utenti
    • 55Recensioni della critica
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    • Nominato ai 1 BAFTA Award
      • 2 vittorie e 2 candidature totali

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    Robert Ryan
    Robert Ryan
    • Bill 'Stoker' Thompson
    Audrey Totter
    Audrey Totter
    • Julie Thompson
    George Tobias
    George Tobias
    • Tiny
    Alan Baxter
    Alan Baxter
    • Little Boy
    Wallace Ford
    Wallace Ford
    • Gus
    Percy Helton
    Percy Helton
    • Red
    Hal Baylor
    Hal Baylor
    • Tiger Nelson
    • (as Hal Fieberling)
    Darryl Hickman
    Darryl Hickman
    • Shanley
    Kevin O'Morrison
    Kevin O'Morrison
    • Moore
    • (as Kenny O'Morrison)
    James Edwards
    James Edwards
    • Luther Hawkins
    David Clarke
    David Clarke
    • Gunboat Johnson
    Phillip Pine
    Phillip Pine
    • Tony Sousa
    Edwin Max
    Edwin Max
    • Danny
    Herbert Anderson
    Herbert Anderson
    • Husband
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Larry Anzalone
    • Mexican Fighter
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Arthur Berkeley
    • Cafe Patron
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Phil Bloom
    Phil Bloom
    • Minor Role
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Burman Bodel
    Burman Bodel
    • Man
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    • Regia
      • Robert Wise
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Art Cohn
      • Joseph Moncure March
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    9hitchcockthelegend

    Don't you see Bill? You are always just one punch away.

    The Set-Up is directed by Robert Wise and stars Robert Ryan & Audrey Totter. The screenplay was adapted by Art Cohn from a 1928 poem written by Joseph Moncure March. The story (played out in real time) sees Ryan as Stoker Thompson, a 35 year old nearly washed up boxer still trundling around the circuit believing he's still got what it takes to become a champ. In spite of pleas from his fretful wife, Julie (Totter), Stoker gets in the ring with Tiger Nelson (Hal Baylor), a man 12 years younger. Unbeknownst to Stoker, though, his manager Tiny (George Tobias) has struck a deal with underworld gangster Little Boy (Alan Baxter on prime sweaty and icy form) for him to take a dive and let Nelson win.

    What first struck me the most watching this was just how vile everyone apart from the boxers are. The fighters are actually the only ones with honesty and integrity running through their veins. These guys are the ones with the self respect being a chief issue for them, they are fighting not just for glory, but for a basic human trait. The first half of the film puts us in the boxers changing room as the fighters wait to go out into the ring. Here we see the number of noble pugilists stripped back to reveal either their fears or their blind beliefs - while they in turn wait to see who comes back victorious or defeated. As they chat amongst themselves the atmosphere is palpable and Wise excellently uses cutaways to the excitable and blood thirsty crowd. The impact is to that of a gladiatorial arena and shows the sport to be seedy yet utterly beguiling at the same time.

    Then it's on to Stoker's fight where Ryan is terrific (he actually boxed for College for 4 years). Thompson is a character so stand up, yet driven by foolish pride, it puts Stallone's Rocky Balboa firmly in the shade, his whole "just one punch away" mantra is truly wonderful and heartfelt and leads to one of those endings that are frustratingly brilliant in its bittersweet closure. The whole fight with Nelson has a beautiful fluidity about it (former pro boxer John Indrisano choreographed it), with Milton R. Krasner's photography keeping it grim and humanistic - both in the ring and out on the darkly lit L.A. streets as Totter's conflicted wife ponders a potential battering for her stoic husband.

    Boosted up by a towering performance from Ryan, and dripping with a film noir sense of desolation, The Set-Up is a simple but powerful boxing gem. A film that gets down to the nitty-gritty of the fighters and the seedy people that surround them. 9/10
    8bkoganbing

    Running On Pride

    If your taste runs to happy endings and beautiful people than stay away from The Set-Up. But if gritty and realistic drama is your taste you can't do better than this noir classic about the world of boxing. The Set-Up anticipated Rod Serling's Requiem For a Heavyweight by a decade as it deals with the same issues about a boxer at the end of his career.

    Anthony Quinn might very well have seen Robert Ryan in The Set-Up when he played Mountain Rivera in Requiem For A Heavyweight. Rod Serling must have seen it as well. Both films deal with a boxer at the end of his career, but who has a lot of pride. Manager George Tobias and trainer Percy Helton get an offer from gambler Alan Baxter who is backing an up and coming heavyweight contender Hal Baylor. Ryan is just another step up the ladder, a ladder when Ryan was younger he was climbing. Tobias and Helton agree to take a dive, but no one can broach the subject to Ryan.

    Which sets it all up for the final match and the aftermath where Ryan betrayed by all hangs in on nerve and pride alone. What happens afterward is for you to view, but don't expect the same kind of resolution that Requiem For A Heavyweight gave.

    A really big surprise here are George Tobias and Percy Helton who normally play comic parts are quite serious here as a pair of fight game characters. The performances are so atypical of the work you've come to expect from both.

    Ryan's amateur boxing career no doubt stood him in good stead for this role. He makes a rugged looking boxer who's been through the ring wars over and over again. That helps him in this latest encounter.

    The sets are gritty and realistic, in fact I've never seen an urban area done so well until Otto Preminger's The Man With The Golden Arm debuted six years later. Preminger also might have been influenced by The Set-Up when he made his classic.

    Although unnoticed at first, The Set-Up has slowly built a reputation as one of the great noir films out of RKO and one of the best boxing films ever made. For myself it certainly influenced a lot of people.
    bob the moo

    Great depressing stuff in the dressing room, a gripping fight and a solid narrative

    Bill "Stoker" Thompson is 34, not old perhaps but in the world of boxing that makes him an old man. Despite the protestations of his wife Julie, Stoker still believes that one more punch, one more fight will see him making it into the marquee fights and the big time rather than being on the support bill. As he waits in the dressing room full of similar hopefuls (some his age and tired, others just starting and full of big dreams) his trainer is busy making the fix with the opposition – for Stoker to go down like a $10 ho and not last the distance. However, Stoker isn't told as his manager assumes that Stoker losing is a given and that the "fix" is unnecessary and easy money for them all; however with Stoker feeling this is "the one", it may not be that simple.

    Although Rocky is the one that most people will throw at you when you ask them to name a great boxing movie, The Set-Up is much, much more interesting as its aspirations are empty, its sights never getting much beyond the gutter and the men merely small players in a game that never plans for them to win. The narrative is essentially about Stoker entering a fight not aware that he has already been bought to lose but the actual film is much better than this limited plot suggests. For much of the first third we are treated to an intimate look at the small time boxers – whether it be the punch-drunk old timers or the youngster who believe that they will only be doing this level for one or two fights before hitting it big. This is the reality – as much as we love to see the Rocky tale of the underdog getting his day in reality the underdogs of life generally remain just that – underdogs. In this section of the film this is very well painted and, although the characters are not deep enough to be people they are definitely well enough written to be interesting and engaging.

    The other two thirds of the film are concerned with the fight and the aftermath, with the fight taking up the majority of the second half of the film. The fight is realistic and tense throughout, I was genuinely unsure how it would go. The aftermath is short and punchy (sorry!) and is effectively dark and gritty for it. The end result is a film that is dark, low key and gripping throughout; it exists in the gutter, in the small time where all our characters seem destined to remain regardless of heart or talent. The cast deliver well, particularly the lead role from former college boxer Ryan. He is really in touch with his character and delivers convincingly in his dialogue, his boxing and his mannerisms; while in the dressing room his facial responses to other boxers show thoughts within his head and conflicting emotions that his experience and age allow him. He is the dominant figure of the film and his is a great performance. Totter is a little less refined but her emotional delivery works well in both of her main scenes with Ryan – although her wandering the streets could perhaps have been trimmed a little bit. The support cast are less well written but do still play their parts well enough but it is Ryan's film and worth seeing for him alone.

    Luckily he is not the only reason to see it as the film is engaging, well written, dark, gritty, tense and very enjoyable. The lower number of votes (and potentially therefore, younger viewers) is a tragic state of affairs considering the class on display in this short punchy product and I for one will be answering "The Set-Up" when asked to name a great boxing movie.
    8planktonrules

    gritty and well-acted

    I love Robert Ryan films. Whether playing a scum bag or a hero, his gritty and realistic performances have always impressed me. One of his better films is this boxing flick. Ryan is an old washed-up boxer who is expected to take a dive. Through much of the film, you really don't know what he will do--throw the fight or try to salvage some of his dignity. And, I gotta say that the boxing scenes are brutal and realistic--it really HURTS to watch the fight. If you like the films THE HARDER THEY FALL or REQUIEM TO A HEAVYWEIGHT, then is this movie for you! In fact, try watching all three to get a look at the less glamorous and seedy side of boxing.
    9secondtake

    Inside a gritty world of boxing, and inside one boxer's head. Amazing!

    The Set-Up (1949)

    This might be the best boxing movie ever made. It's kind of the opposite of "Rocky," of course (this one is about the small points, and not about becoming champion). But it's also the opposite of the two other classics that come to mind: "Raging Bull" and "Body and Soul."

    Director Robert Wise made sure that everything here felt authentic and gritty--almost too authentic and gritty. You marvel at all the types in the crowds, inside and outside the ring. You notice the small rooms, the ordinary props, the lack of glamour. If you aren't afraid of the word mise-en-scene, this has created it perfectly. It's transporting.

    And moving. Robert Ryan in the lead pulls out some of his best, subtle reactions. He's sometimes prone to strained expressions that may not always fit his character, but here he is thoughtful and determined and showing signs of being the old wise man in the crowd as the younger boxers act cocky or scared.

    Then there's the plot drawn out of the title. It's a good thing this doesn't dominate the movie, at least not until the end, because the real plot has to do with a man coming to grips with the end of his career. And with a woman who loves him truly. It's great stuff.

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      The clock on the square at the beginning shows 9:05 PM, and the same clock at the end shows 10:16 PM. The movie takes place in real time.
    • Blooper
      After the big fight, when Stoker is in the locker room, he opens his locker and takes out his clothes and shoes. In two subsequent shots his shoes are back in the locker, and then in a fourth shot he removes his shoes from the locker a second time.
    • Citazioni

      Stoker: Well, that's the way it is. You're a fighter, you gotta fight.

    • Connessioni
      Featured in Film Review: Robert Wise (1967)
    • Colonne sonore
      A Touch of Texas
      (1942) (uncredited)

      Music by Jimmy McHugh

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    • Data di uscita
      • 4 febbraio 1950 (Italia)
    • Paese di origine
      • Stati Uniti
    • Lingua
      • Inglese
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    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • The Hill Street Tunnels at 1st, Bunker Hill, Downtown, Los Angeles, California, Stati Uniti(Staircase over tunnel scenes, the overlook where Julie contemplates suicide as train passes. Location was the Hill Street Tunnels, including the pedestrian staircase leading to overlook. Location was just north on Hill Street from 1st Street. Erected in 1913 and demolished in 1954 to make way for Los Angeles County Courthouse and Hall of Administration.)
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      • RKO Radio Pictures
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