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Per la vecchia bandiera

Titolo originale: Thunder Over the Plains
  • 1953
  • Approved
  • 1h 22min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
6,4/10
1041
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Randolph Scott in Per la vecchia bandiera (1953)
DrammaDramma politicoDrammi storiciOccidentaleWestern classico

Aggiungi una trama nella tua linguaIn Post-Bellum Texas, an army captain tries to keep the peace between overtaxed, impoverished farmers and greedy carpetbaggers.In Post-Bellum Texas, an army captain tries to keep the peace between overtaxed, impoverished farmers and greedy carpetbaggers.In Post-Bellum Texas, an army captain tries to keep the peace between overtaxed, impoverished farmers and greedy carpetbaggers.

  • Regia
    • André De Toth
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Russell S. Hughes
  • Star
    • Randolph Scott
    • Lex Barker
    • Phyllis Kirk
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    6,4/10
    1041
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • André De Toth
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Russell S. Hughes
    • Star
      • Randolph Scott
      • Lex Barker
      • Phyllis Kirk
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    • 11Recensioni della critica
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    Interpreti principali48

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    Randolph Scott
    Randolph Scott
    • Capt. David Porter
    Lex Barker
    Lex Barker
    • Capt. Bill Hodges
    Phyllis Kirk
    Phyllis Kirk
    • Norah Porter
    Charles McGraw
    Charles McGraw
    • Ben Westman
    Henry Hull
    Henry Hull
    • Lt. Col. Chandler
    Elisha Cook Jr.
    Elisha Cook Jr.
    • Joseph Standish
    Hugh Sanders
    Hugh Sanders
    • H.L. Balfour
    Lane Chandler
    Lane Chandler
    • Mike Faraday
    James Brown
    James Brown
    • Conrad
    Fess Parker
    Fess Parker
    • Kirby
    Mark Dana
    • Lt. Williams
    Carl Andre
    • Hodges' Sergeant
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Walter Bacon
    • Texan
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    Trevor Bardette
    Trevor Bardette
    • Walter Morgan
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    John Bose
    John Bose
    • Trooper
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Jerry Brown
    Jerry Brown
    • Trooper
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Buck Bucko
    • Texan
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    John Cason
    John Cason
    • Kehoe
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    • Regia
      • André De Toth
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Russell S. Hughes
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    8bkoganbing

    Quite The Little Self Perpetuating Racket

    Thunder Over The Plains starts with the same premise as John Wayne's Red River and Randolph Scott's earlier film, The Texans. That is the corrupt rule of carpetbaggers post the Civil War. But there are no large herds of cattle to be driven north for profit to escape the burdensome taxes laid down by the occupying carpetbagger civil servants and the army to back them up.

    Randolph Scott is a Union army captain, but also a Texan and he sees both sides. Henry Hull is his put upon commanding officer and Charles McGraw plays a leader of a local gang who have risen up like Robin Hood among the oppressed. These guys aren't Ku Klux Klan nightriders by any means though.

    Our villains are Hugh Sanders and Elisha Cook, Jr. a pair of scurvy lowlifes if there ever were. They've got quite the little self perpetuating racket. The more they extort, the more McGraw raids, the more Sanders and Cook cry that the army has to stay in Texas. Just about anything is blamed on McGraw and his men.

    There's also a domestic crisis of sorts with newly arrived captain Lex Barker, an arrogant sort who was on duty in Washington and would like to get back there. Barker's bored and he makes a play for Phyllis Kirk who is married to Randolph Scott. Since they don't like each other from the beginning that only increases the problem.

    Andre DeToth who did several westerns including a few with Randolph Scott brought home a good one here. With themes like an attempt at adultery here, this was not a western for the Saturday matinée kiddie trade. DeToth's best in my opinion is one called Ramrod with Joel McCrea and his then wife Veronica Lake, but this one is pretty good too.

    DeToth also learned from the best and the final shootout scene with Scott against four men bears no small resemblance to High Noon, released a year earlier.

    Definitely one of Randolph Scott's best westerns of the Fifties.
    7Spondonman

    Thunderation - just whose side is everybody on?

    There's just too many baddies in this film for me to consider this as anything other than an average Randolph Scott Western. Even the nearly-good people have perverse traits – who the Hell are we supposed to care about!

    Tale set in post Civil War Texas where carpetbaggers ruled almost supreme, and the occupying Federal troops seemed to let them. There's a gang of patriotic outlaws led by a Robin Hood character trying to redress the balance and a complicated set of sympathies and antagonisms with which to contend. And Lex Barker was playing a nutter. But if I correctly remember my extensive Frank Yerby reading when I was a kid surely in reality the Ku Klux Klan couldn't have been far away in matters of this kind in their role of Southern saviours? There's time in this shortish formula fiction film for lots of plot twists, cold business, love, jealousy, rage, backstabbings, murders galore, some honour and integrity, all of it delivered with plenty of panache, a nice colour and sporadically excellent camera-work.

    It's enjoyable hokum up to a point but ultimately loses its way because there's no one you can really root for but many you can root against. Naturally, Scott is as dependable as usual.
    6ma-cortes

    Frankly good main and support cast in an acceptable Western professionally directed by Andre De Toth

    It is set in 1869 , after American Civil War : 1961-1865 , when Texas has not yet been admitted to the Union and several carpetbaggers upheaval againt the States . Federal captain Porter : Randolph Scott reluctantly has to carry out a mission assigned by his commandant in chief : Henry Hull against his own people . But things go wrong , the district tax Commissioner : Elisha Cook Jr is kidnapped and a rebel leader , Charles McGraw is captured being accused of killing . His was the moment he had to count his bullets because he couldn't on his friends ! Thunder in his heart ..lightning in his holsters! . Don't go out there Dave ¡ Please don't go out there ! In the heart and dust a prairie town waited . A storm was brewing . A storm named Dave Porter and when he hit , it would rain nothing but lead !

    This is a tornado and adventure movie from Warner Bros , containing thrills , emotion , suspense , go riding and crossfire . A decent cavalry western with a twisted and complex intrigue written by Russell Hughes . As our captain Randolph Scott has to confront a nasty powerful owner : Hugh Sanders , while must avoid a new and envious officer : Lex Barker who attempts to take his wife Phyllis Kirk . As the trío of decent protagonists : Randolph Scott , Phyllis Kirk and Lex Barker give acceptable interpretations . They are well accompanied by a pretty support cast with plenty of familiar faces , such as : Henry Hull , Charles McGraw , Elisa Cook Jr , Lane Chandler , uncredited Trevor Bardette, James Brown of Rin Tin Tin TV series and Fess Parker of Daniel Boone TV series.

    The motion picture was well directed by Andre De Toth , though it has some flaws and gaps . De Toth was a good artisan of long career , writing , producing and directing several movies . As he made all kinds of genres , outstanding in Western , such as : Ramrod , Carson City , The Indian Fighter , Day of Outlaw , Thunder over Plains . And he made other genres including films as The other love , Pitfall , None Shall escape , Crime Wave , Dark Waters , Monkey on my Back , Play Dirty . Being his biggest hit , the boxoffice terror House of Wax . Rating : 6/10 . Passable and acceptable Western that will appeal to Randolph Scott fans . Worthwhile seeing .
    dougdoepke

    Complex but Entertaining

    Complex western that manages pretty well to stay afloat. You may need a scorecard since the screenplay involves four different factions bouncing off one another. Scott displays his usual iron-jawed determination as the captain torn between loyalty to his native Texas and the Union cavalry. The bad guys, as usual in these post-Civil War oaters, are the greedy carpetbaggers, headed up by that excellent actor Hugh Sanders. And who can overlook perennial fall guy Elisha Cook doing his usual fierce rabbit bit.

    The rivalry between the two captains, Scott and Barker, is an interesting feature, especially when it extends to Scott's wife (Kirk). That scene where the home-sick wife is captivated by the handsome Barker is both well played and unusual for a western. Note too how Scott is compelled by the byplay to fade into the background, another unusual feature for a western hero.

    Though filmed just west of LA, the rolling scenery makes a good Technicolor backdrop to the action. Much credit for making the elements work should go to director de Toth who was skilled at handling conflict as shown in his masterwork, Ramrod (1947). The redoubtable Sam Peckinpah also selected de Toth to direct many episodes of his groundbreaking TV series The Westerner (1960).

    On the whole, it's a complicated story of personal and political conflict but still delivers the goods for fans of westerns.
    8tardis432002

    Solid Western

    This just became one of my favorite Randolph Scott movies.

    First, there's an intelligent script by Russell Hughes, who wrote for some good radio shows like "Nightbeat" and Alan Ladd's "Box 13", as well as such films as Anthony Mann's "Last Frontier", Delmer Daves' "Jubal", and even the best of the giant-bug movies, "Them".

    Then, there's the look and feel of the film. Director Andre De Toth and his great cinematographer Bert Glennon (who had done remarkable work with the likes of Josef von Sternberg and John Ford) light and shoot for realism and emotional impact. Glennon had also shot "Man Behind the Gun" (available on the flip side of this DVD), so I suppose director Felix Feist could be blamed for that film's phony-looking stage sets. Here, in "Thunder... ", a barroom scene looks like it was shot in a real barroom (foreshadowing Clint Eastwood's "natural lighting" technique by decades) and exteriors are shot outdoors. To be fair, the Feist film may have had budget or producer issues, but given that film's potential (dealing with water rights, corrupt politicians, the possible secession of southern California, even the semi-legendary Joaquin Murrietta as a supporting character) it still seems like a typical, entertaining, 40's-style B-movie. "Thunder...", released the same year, 1953, seems more forward-looking, more compelling, more of the age of the "adult" Westerns, even though the literally flag-waving ending with its narrative paean to the great state of Texas kind of pulls us back to B-movie-land.

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      Growing cotton and transporting cotton bales thru the hilly countryside was a foolish director's scheme. In 1869 cotton wasn't grown within 1,000 miles of this area.
    • Citazioni

      Norah Porter: Whatever became of Frances Bilky?

      Captain Bill Hodges: I don't know. She married a colonel, I think. Maybe it was a general. At any rate, she outranks all of us.

      Norah Porter: But that's wonderful! Now she'll have her lifelong ambition to lead the cotillion. Well, I guess that's what I always wanted too.

      Captain Bill Hodges: You don't have anything like that around here, do you, Captain?

      Captain David Porter: Oh, I don't know. The Indians come down once a month and dance for us.

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      Referenced in Radiografia di un colpo d'oro (1968)

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    • Data di uscita
      • 27 ottobre 1953 (Stati Uniti)
    • Paese di origine
      • Stati Uniti
    • Lingua
      • Inglese
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    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Warner Ranch, Calabasas, California, Stati Uniti
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      • Warner Bros.
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      • 1h 22min(82 min)
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