Legends & Lies

I was very disappointed in the Jesse James episode of Legends & Lies, as were other Missouri residents I've spoken to who know his history better than most. WHO were your "experts?" People from places I've never even heard of. Not one from Missouri. Was there any contact with personnel from the James Farm, where there is an extensive museum with extensive information on - Jesse James. No. And what about the law enacted in Missouri that "barred from voting, civil offices, and even the pulpit anyone who could not swear that they had not engaged in any one of a list of 86 forbidden acts of rebellion." (cited from the American Experience website at www.PBS.com) In other words, men who had fought for the Confederacy. It wasn't even mentioned. And Zerelda as a driving force in what made them bad guys? Really? And it wasn't mentioned, as is cited in another review, that Jesse and Frank rode with Quantrill and his raiders, which is a HUGE oversight. Poorly done and sadly researched in my opinion.

When someone claims to be dispelling histories lies it would be best if they had information to offer that would bring the truth to light. Unfortunately, this show, which I was eager to see, only perpetuated many of the problems with historical research of the old west. Bill makes claims that are supposed to be laying down the truth for all of us in the dark. Problem is, he merely takes a point of view on an issue that is still undecided by both historians and historical information and proclaims it to be established fact now that he has said so (Thanks Bill, glad you could do that for us!).

How does Bill O'Reilly know more about Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp than the hard working researchers who have dug and dug in order to bring forth the most information possible to this point? Obviously he doesn't, but the problem is that this doesn't stop him from delivering his claims with bloviating conviction.

If a person watches this show for entertainment, great; there are a lot of westerns I enjoy that are factually mistaken. But if you watch this to learn something, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, for your sake and the good of our collective community intelligence, do no repeat what you see on this show and assume you are passing along wisdom.

Some of the most outstanding info yet on the Wild West. A previously unknown account of how facts get twisted over time by the hit and run (drive-by) media. I see that another reviewer has written unsubstantiated info about this series but quite contrary, its from a leftist group with the profound title of 'American Constitution'. They have no idea what that title means since they are Fachist to start with.

Just like the left, trying to get the opposite and most derogatory info out that they can with unsubstantiated statistics and so-called research. One can tell about these groups because of the way they chose names for themselves; it is always the opposite of what they say or proclaim they are. I'm sick of their slanted views and their unsubstantiated info. Just loud mouths trying to fill a lot of hot air balloons,i.e. reminds me so much of our current President.

In summary, Bill has written or co-authored numerous books that have made the New York Times best seller lists for months in a row. You can take these facts to the bank. Thanks Bill, there are far too many that appreciate your corrections of twisted history. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORKS.

I didn't see the first season, but only the two following ones. What's striking to me is what has already been expressed a few times here. It pretends to go beyond the common narrative. But in fact, it totally gives in to the common narrative! And doesn't go any deeper. It's well made and it's good, but only skin deep. The title is only a pretense, a bait. I don't dislike O'Reilley. He's the type of guy whom you can call "wholesome". He comes in all square. The series here are the same: no subtleties, but interesting nonetheless and fun to watch.

I'm not a wild west expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know quite a bit about one of them. I've read / seen just about everything there is to see on Billy The Kid and The Lincoln County War. So I'll speak about that episode.

I watched that episode first because of the fact that this is a Fox News produced show. I found what I usually found with Fox, they don't out right lie or anything, but they don't tell the entire story at all. They leave out things and take "artistic" license with a lot of it. Which is fine, unless you are running a series which is supposed to tell the "truth" rather than Legend.

Dermot Mulroney was a great choice for the narration, and most of the experts are very well respected. I don't know what makes Bill O'Reilly an expert at all, other than the fact that he produced the show.

The Billy the Kid episode was deeply flawed, for example, when they show the part of Billy's capture at Stinking Springs they make it look like a town, when in fact it was barely a building. Also they make it look like there was a big gun fight between Billy and Pat, when in fact Billy gave up after Pat and his crew opened up on Charlie Bowdre, mistaking him for the Kid. They also make a lot of assumptions about Pat knowing Billy. When in fact he barely knew him, but that doesn't make for good TV does it.

I could go on, but basically this is like everything Fox News does and should be taken with a grain of salt. There are plenty of real documentaries out there if people are interested in the subject. I'd suggest watching those for a true historical account.