अपनी भाषा में प्लॉट जोड़ेंWhen son of a conservative small rancher refuses to go to the Vietnam War, his father disowns him. Fifteen years later his mother asks him to return home and try one final time to make peace... सभी पढ़ेंWhen son of a conservative small rancher refuses to go to the Vietnam War, his father disowns him. Fifteen years later his mother asks him to return home and try one final time to make peace with his still proud and stubborn father.When son of a conservative small rancher refuses to go to the Vietnam War, his father disowns him. Fifteen years later his mother asks him to return home and try one final time to make peace with his still proud and stubborn father.
Greg Kupiec
- Rene
- (as Gregory Kupiec)
G. Wayne Hill
- Cowboy
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Heartwarming Made-For-TV modern time story of an old staunchly conservative cattle rancher (Charlton Heston) who is reunited with the son he disowned (Peter Strauss) after his boy deserted the Vietnam war. The two haven't seen each other for fifteen years and Strauss has been living in France, but is persuaded to come home to the Texas ranch by his mother (Nan Martin) when he learns that his dad is dying of an undisclosed illness. Father and son are both stubborn men, and their reunion as they attempt to come to terms is both emotional and involving. Strauss attempts to explain his reasons for desertion, an act that has also made him an outcast in the eyes of most of the local townsfolk. All the performances here are first rate, especially by Heston, Strauss, and Martin, and make up for the rather familiar nature of the story. *** out of ****
When it's learned that the patriarch of a ranch in the wilderness north of Los Angeles has about six months to live (Heston), his disowned son from Paris (Strauss) comes to visit at the mother's request (Nan Martin). The cause of the separation from fifteen years earlier had to do with the Vietnam War. Can they patch things up before it's too late? Alan Autry is on hand as the tough foreman of the ranch.
"Proud Men" (1987) has been described as "On Golden Pond at a Ranch," but it's more of a Western set at a Southwest ranch in modern times. Sure, it involves heavy family drama, but there's lots of cowboy-oriented stuff too, like riding and camping in the hills, great bronco action and even a saloon brouhaha. The combination of quality human interest and the Western milieu works, especially with the acting chops of Heston, Strauss and the other principles.
Belinda Balaski appears as the son's old girlfriend, working as a barmaid. You might remember her from "Piranha" and "The Howling." Both she and Strauss were 39 during shooting. Heston was 63, but acted older. He definitely wasn't his spry old self.
The aforementioned human interest is highlighted by the differing perspectives of America's involvement in the Vietnam situation. As noble as the patriarch's position is, the son certainly has a point in his. For instance, does swearing to defend your country make it okay to shoot unarmed female citizens and babies? Furthermore, how exactly does fighting for democracy and capitalism in a nation on the other side of the globe have anything to do with "defending your country"? I'm just giving you a taste.
It runs about 1 hour, 32 minutes, and was shot at Rancho Maria and Sable Ranch, which is just east of Santa Clarita, a 40-minute drive north of Hollywood.
GRADE: B+/A-
"Proud Men" (1987) has been described as "On Golden Pond at a Ranch," but it's more of a Western set at a Southwest ranch in modern times. Sure, it involves heavy family drama, but there's lots of cowboy-oriented stuff too, like riding and camping in the hills, great bronco action and even a saloon brouhaha. The combination of quality human interest and the Western milieu works, especially with the acting chops of Heston, Strauss and the other principles.
Belinda Balaski appears as the son's old girlfriend, working as a barmaid. You might remember her from "Piranha" and "The Howling." Both she and Strauss were 39 during shooting. Heston was 63, but acted older. He definitely wasn't his spry old self.
The aforementioned human interest is highlighted by the differing perspectives of America's involvement in the Vietnam situation. As noble as the patriarch's position is, the son certainly has a point in his. For instance, does swearing to defend your country make it okay to shoot unarmed female citizens and babies? Furthermore, how exactly does fighting for democracy and capitalism in a nation on the other side of the globe have anything to do with "defending your country"? I'm just giving you a taste.
It runs about 1 hour, 32 minutes, and was shot at Rancho Maria and Sable Ranch, which is just east of Santa Clarita, a 40-minute drive north of Hollywood.
GRADE: B+/A-
Found this film for a cheap price on dvd, so I picked it up. A dollar or two wasn't too bad, after all, Charlton Heston started. I started watching the movie, not expecting much, but this is a very moving story of a father and son.
Heston plays conservative father to his AWOL Vietnam soldier son and they haven't spoken in almost two decades. Peter Strauss plays the son who comes home from France to his ailing father. The battle between doing what's right and following orders ensues. The father feels dishonored by his son and the son feels he did the right thing.
Will they ever have peace? Watch Proud Men and see the story unfold.
Heston plays conservative father to his AWOL Vietnam soldier son and they haven't spoken in almost two decades. Peter Strauss plays the son who comes home from France to his ailing father. The battle between doing what's right and following orders ensues. The father feels dishonored by his son and the son feels he did the right thing.
Will they ever have peace? Watch Proud Men and see the story unfold.
It is one of films seductive only for the acting. The story seems only a pretext or a frame for beautiful work of Nat Martin, Charlton Heston, Peter Strauss . And it is enough. You discover a nice family story, not convincing but decent and so melodramatic for be good support for remind the past roles of each actor. And, for the part of viewers, the fight scene is just good present .
Charley MacLeod junior, an American living in Paris with his French wife, is persuaded by his mother to return home to the family ranch because his father, Charley senior, is dying from some unspecified disease. Charley junior is reluctant to return, because he and his father have been estranged for many years, but he is eventually won over by his mother's entreaties. We are initially given to understand that the cause of the estrangement was some difference of opinion over the Vietnam War; we eventually learn that Charley junior went to fight in Vietnam but deserted from the Army because he was horrified by the bloodshed and cruelty of war. Charley senior, who still considers his son's conduct dishonourable, almost treasonable, is far from happy to see him. Moreover, Charley junior finds out that many people in the area feel the same way about him, including his childhood friend Brian, who has taken his place on the ranch and is regarded by Charley senior virtually as an adopted son.
It is significant that the title of the film is "Proud Men", not "A Proud Man". For all their political differences, father and son are in many ways alike in their personalities. Both find it difficult to admit that they were wrong or to see any merit in an opposing point of view. An element in Charley junior's pride is the need to justify himself to his father. If he cannot win Charley senior over by verbal arguments, he feels the need to demonstrate that he is not a physical coward. He does this by repeated attempts to ride a dangerous horse which repeatedly throws him and by allowing Brian, a heavier and more powerful man, to provoke him into a fight which inevitably ends with Charley being beaten to a pulp.
One reviewer calls the film "On Golden Ranch", and I can certainly see the similarities with "On Golden Pond". At the centre of both films is an elderly man who has become estranged from a child, a son here and a daughter in the other film. In both cases they gradually learn to accept one another under pressure from other members of the family, especially the old man's wife. In both films the old man forms a close bond with a grandson he has not previously met. (OK, it's a step-grandson in "On Golden Pond", but the principle is the same). The main difference is that "On Golden Pond" we never really learn the causes of the estrangement between Norman and Chelsea, and there is no reason to believe that political differences, over Vietnam or anything else, had anything to do with it. He clearly dislikes her fiancé Bill, but it is implied that the difficulties in their relationship started long before Chelsea and Bill ever met.
Another similarity between the two films is the strength of the acting. "On Golden Pond" can, at times, be rather sugary, but it is lifted above mere sentimentality by two Oscar-winning performances from Henry Fonda and Katharine Hepburn and an Oscar-nominated one from Henry's real-life daughter Jane. (This was Henry Fonda's only Oscar, coming in his final film a few years before his death). There was to be no Oscar for Charlton Heston for "Proud Men", but then Oscars are not handed out for TV movies. If "Proud Men" had been released as a feature film, he might have provided serious opposition to Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", because this is a fine performance, balanced by an equally good one from Peter Strauss as Charley junior.
"Proud Men" formed part of what I think of as Hollywood's second Vietnam cycle of the late eighties and early nineties, which also included the likes of "Full Metal Jacket", "Good Morning Vietnam", "Hamburger Hill", "Casualties of War" and Oliver Stone's trilogy of "Platoon", "Born on the Fourth of July" and "Heaven and Earth". (The first Vietnam cycle- "The Deer Hunter", "Coming Home", "Apocalypse Now"- had come about a decade earlier. Like most of those, "Proud Men" has been described as an "anti-Vietnam War" film, but actually I find its stance more nuanced than that. There would have been little dramatic tension if the film-makers had taken the straightforward position that Charley junior is in the right and his father in the wrong, end of argument. (And if they had taken that position I doubt if they would have persuaded the famously conservative Heston to star). Charley senior points out that he saw as much horror during his service in the Second World War and although he was afraid he never considered deserting; when his son tries to claim World War II as "the Last Good War", he retorts that there are no good wars. In his view soldiers are not fighting for abstractions like patriotism, freedom and democracy, but for their comrades, which is why he regards desertion as such a heinous wrong. (Draft-dodging, by comparison, is a lesser offence because it does not involve a betrayal of the men who have fought alongside you). I see the film as being more about America's need for reconciliation after the conflict, reconciliation between the generations and between those who had taken opposite political positions. 7/10.
It is significant that the title of the film is "Proud Men", not "A Proud Man". For all their political differences, father and son are in many ways alike in their personalities. Both find it difficult to admit that they were wrong or to see any merit in an opposing point of view. An element in Charley junior's pride is the need to justify himself to his father. If he cannot win Charley senior over by verbal arguments, he feels the need to demonstrate that he is not a physical coward. He does this by repeated attempts to ride a dangerous horse which repeatedly throws him and by allowing Brian, a heavier and more powerful man, to provoke him into a fight which inevitably ends with Charley being beaten to a pulp.
One reviewer calls the film "On Golden Ranch", and I can certainly see the similarities with "On Golden Pond". At the centre of both films is an elderly man who has become estranged from a child, a son here and a daughter in the other film. In both cases they gradually learn to accept one another under pressure from other members of the family, especially the old man's wife. In both films the old man forms a close bond with a grandson he has not previously met. (OK, it's a step-grandson in "On Golden Pond", but the principle is the same). The main difference is that "On Golden Pond" we never really learn the causes of the estrangement between Norman and Chelsea, and there is no reason to believe that political differences, over Vietnam or anything else, had anything to do with it. He clearly dislikes her fiancé Bill, but it is implied that the difficulties in their relationship started long before Chelsea and Bill ever met.
Another similarity between the two films is the strength of the acting. "On Golden Pond" can, at times, be rather sugary, but it is lifted above mere sentimentality by two Oscar-winning performances from Henry Fonda and Katharine Hepburn and an Oscar-nominated one from Henry's real-life daughter Jane. (This was Henry Fonda's only Oscar, coming in his final film a few years before his death). There was to be no Oscar for Charlton Heston for "Proud Men", but then Oscars are not handed out for TV movies. If "Proud Men" had been released as a feature film, he might have provided serious opposition to Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", because this is a fine performance, balanced by an equally good one from Peter Strauss as Charley junior.
"Proud Men" formed part of what I think of as Hollywood's second Vietnam cycle of the late eighties and early nineties, which also included the likes of "Full Metal Jacket", "Good Morning Vietnam", "Hamburger Hill", "Casualties of War" and Oliver Stone's trilogy of "Platoon", "Born on the Fourth of July" and "Heaven and Earth". (The first Vietnam cycle- "The Deer Hunter", "Coming Home", "Apocalypse Now"- had come about a decade earlier. Like most of those, "Proud Men" has been described as an "anti-Vietnam War" film, but actually I find its stance more nuanced than that. There would have been little dramatic tension if the film-makers had taken the straightforward position that Charley junior is in the right and his father in the wrong, end of argument. (And if they had taken that position I doubt if they would have persuaded the famously conservative Heston to star). Charley senior points out that he saw as much horror during his service in the Second World War and although he was afraid he never considered deserting; when his son tries to claim World War II as "the Last Good War", he retorts that there are no good wars. In his view soldiers are not fighting for abstractions like patriotism, freedom and democracy, but for their comrades, which is why he regards desertion as such a heinous wrong. (Draft-dodging, by comparison, is a lesser offence because it does not involve a betrayal of the men who have fought alongside you). I see the film as being more about America's need for reconciliation after the conflict, reconciliation between the generations and between those who had taken opposite political positions. 7/10.
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