They Learned About Women

"They Learned About Women" is full of surprises, mostly pleasant. The movie was obviously made to showcase vaudeville stars Van and Schenk, cast here as a pair of pro ball players who do a song-and-dance act during the off-season. What's surprising is what first-rate actors they turned out to be. Then there's Bessie Love, a silent screen stalwart, who surprisingly picks up a ukulele and belts out a torch song in bravura style. In fact the musical numbers are exceptionally well staged, a surprise of sorts less than two years after the advent of sound. Even the sub-plot, about a vamp who tricks Van into marriage, works in a dopey sort of way. As does a climactic World Series game, the outcome of which is -- in this case -- no surprise. Forgive a few un-PC song lyrics and enjoy a movie that's surprisingly better than you might expect.

This movie has a song by Schenck and Van that they do in the baseball team locker room. The vocal is by Gus Van (with vocal responses from locker room boys), and it rocks pretty good for 1930: "Ten Sweet Mamas" - check it out, the rest of their numbers are more typical vaudeville stuff, but this one is worth listening to.

... and this is one of them. The early MGM musical comedies were thin on plot, but this thing is a real showcase of sound entertainment circa 1930. Plus you get to see how baseball was once played by just a bunch of average guys who were mechanics, plumbers, and - in the case of Van and Schenck's characters - vaudevillians From October to April. No wading in tens of millions they could never count for these guys.

The jist of the story is that vaudevillians Jerry Burke (Gus Van) and Jack Glennon (Joe Schenck) are singers half the year, baseball players with the Blue Sox the other half. Jerry is the partying type and Jack is the more level-headed one with a girl that he plans to marry soon, Mary (Bessie Love). Everything has been running smoothly until gold digging Daisy (Mary Doran) gets her eye on Jack and his earning potential.

Besides the baseball scenes from 80 years ago, the best part of this whole film is Nina Mae McKinney singing and dancing to Harlem Madness as well as a close look at two true vaudevillians - Gus and Schenck - in numbers that are pretty close to what they did on stage. Also, the fact is that, besides a couple of Vitaphone shorts, this is the only filmed record of their act or of their acting. Two songs in particular will probably seem jaw-droppingly politically incorrect to most modern viewers - "I'm an Old-Fashioned Guy" and "Dougherty Is the Name", but actually the sentiments in these songs do represent main-stream values of 80 years ago. The contrived comedy skits land with a bit of a thud, and it is a bit of a stretch to think of an entire baseball team breaking into barbershop style song in the shower after the game, but believe me you won't be bored.

One thing that cracked me up - and this is only a conjecture on my part - actress Mary Doran as the gold digger has a voice that is identical to the cheating wife-dog in the "All Barkies" Dogville short Hot Dog. Since she was under contract to MGM at the time, and MGM is the studio that produced the Dogville shorts, I wonder if that was her voice. It sure did sound like her.

At any rate, I do highly recommend this one.

Early sound musical THEY LEARNED ABOUT WOMEN (1930) M.G.M. combines BaseBall with the dying performance art of Vaudeville. Throw in some rather poor musical numbers and a romance spoiled by a Gold-Digger and that about sums up the plot. For some this film will be offensive in it's dated ethnic comedy. They should realize that is not the problem, it is just bad even by early sound standards.

The cast features real Vaudeville performers (Gus) VAN & (Joe) SCHENCK and M.G.M. Star BESSIE LOVE. LOVEs' career was winding down and did not translate well too the sound era. VAN & SCHENCK must be one (1) of the reasons of what killed Vaudeville. This film shows why the Hollywood Musical lost popularity until revived by WARNER BROTHERS and BUSBY BERKERLY in 1933.

Fast forward now nineteen (19) years and M.G.M. releases TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALL GAME (1949). Nothing gets thrown away in Hollywood so this concept was dusted off, rewritten and given TechniColor and the M.G.M. star power of GENE KELLY, ESTHER WILLIAMS, FRANK SINATRA & BETTY GARRETT. BUSBY BERKERLY directed and this film has at least enjoyable 'Song & Dance' routines. Our rating IMDB******(6).

A interesting note, long term Character Actor, TOM DUGAN appeared in both films. In T.L.A.W. (1930) he played TIM 'Timmy' O'CONNOR, in T.M.O.T.T.B.G. (1949) it was 'Slappy' BURKE.

in this ok 1930 film that stars Joe Schenck and Gus Van as baseball players who hit the vaudeville stage off season. While Schenck and Van were real vaudeville stars, their film careers never took off, and this film showcases their strengths as performers as well as their weaknesses. Their ethnic accent-oriented songs will strike many today as being VERY un-PC just as their songs now seem blah. Into this mix, however, comes the wonderful Bessie Love as their love interest. The always perky Love has only a few moments to shine in this film, but she makes it all worthwhile once hoisted atop a pinao, ukelele in hand, and sings "I've Got a Man of My Own." Love was at the height of her film career in the late 20s and early 30s, before she bailed from Hollywood and headed to London. Love's number in this film, her appearance in Hollywood Revue of 1929, and her Oscar-nominated starring turn in The Broadway Melody all show why she was popular with filmgoers. Worth a look. Co-stars Mary Doran, Benny Rubin, and Tom Dugan.