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अपनी भाषा में प्लॉट जोड़ेंDocumentary about the uncredited co-creator of Batman, Bill Finger.Documentary about the uncredited co-creator of Batman, Bill Finger.Documentary about the uncredited co-creator of Batman, Bill Finger.
- पुरस्कार
- कुल 1 नामांकन
Jerry Bails
- Self - Comic Book Convention Panel Moderator
- (आर्काइव फ़ूटेज)
- (वॉइस)
Otto Binder
- Self - Writer, DC Writer
- (आर्काइव फ़ूटेज)
Benjamin Zaido Cruz
- Self - Athena's Son
- (as Benjamin Cruz)
Bill Finger
- Self - Co-Creator of Batman
- (आर्काइव फ़ूटेज)
Stacey C. Friends
- Self - Attorney, Trademark & Copyright Law
- (as Stacey Friends)
Bob Kane
- Self - Co-Creator of Batman
- (आर्काइव फ़ूटेज)
Travis Langley
- Self - Comic Convention Advisor
- (as Dr. Travis Langley)
- …
Stan Lee
- Self - Marvel Comic Publisher
- (आर्काइव फ़ूटेज)
- …
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This is an interesting one-sided argument. However it does ignore any investigation towards Bob Kane's contribution to the creation. Focusing purely on the speculative works of Bill.
A statement is made early on in the film, that Bill was paid as a "Ghost Writer". Perhaps he forgot to look up the definition of that, because if true, it justifies everything Bob did, even if Bill did create it.
And later on, the film shows early design templates that Bob came up with, that apparently Bill developed further. A friend offering ideas and suggestions to someone else's work, is a bit different to plagiarism or whatever else they are trying to suggest. The original templates were developed by Bob, regardless of what changes were made along the journey to publication.
And lets just say for arguments sake, Bill came up with the design. Bob was the marketing business expert who risked actual money and time into publishing him. Comics books were a new medium, and other superheroes had failed. He was the risk taker, who compiled the team of writers, artists and colourist and steered the ship as it were through war time and kept the dream alive.
This documentary needed a deeper look at what Bob Kane added the equation, to balance out the argument and allow the viewer a clearer understanding of how much credit Bill deserves, and for what.
A statement is made early on in the film, that Bill was paid as a "Ghost Writer". Perhaps he forgot to look up the definition of that, because if true, it justifies everything Bob did, even if Bill did create it.
And later on, the film shows early design templates that Bob came up with, that apparently Bill developed further. A friend offering ideas and suggestions to someone else's work, is a bit different to plagiarism or whatever else they are trying to suggest. The original templates were developed by Bob, regardless of what changes were made along the journey to publication.
And lets just say for arguments sake, Bill came up with the design. Bob was the marketing business expert who risked actual money and time into publishing him. Comics books were a new medium, and other superheroes had failed. He was the risk taker, who compiled the team of writers, artists and colourist and steered the ship as it were through war time and kept the dream alive.
This documentary needed a deeper look at what Bob Kane added the equation, to balance out the argument and allow the viewer a clearer understanding of how much credit Bill deserves, and for what.
10cbaw1957
If you are a Batman fan, this is the best 90 minutes you can spend learning about the history of the Caped Crusader. This is great story telling straight from the heart. The doc contains all kinds of trivia and history you never knew before. From the creation of the Batman character to the most recent movie, you'll find out things you never knew before.
10zkonedog
One of my pet peeves when it comes to entertainment is when the creators of iconic material are not given sufficient (or any) credit—financial or otherwise—for their iconic creations. The example of this I always give is all Three Stooges dying basically penniless while their shorts will be played forever and make many other people much money. I realize that there is a legal side to all of this (sometimes creators "sell off" early in hopes of a quick buck only to see "their" property zoom in popularity), but I always have a soft spot for stories of "creators vs. studios" and the like. That is why I can give "Batman & Bill" the full 10 stars here and consider it one of the most incredible documentaries I have ever watched, as it unearths a truly hidden story from the annals of history and restores creative credit where it is due.
Basically, "Batman & Bill" tells the story of how author/comic fan Marc Tyler Nobleman started a research project into the origins of the Batman character. Initially he had no idea what he would find, but very quickly he stumbled upon a bit of an investigative gold mine: Though Bob Kane was given basically 100% of the credit for creating Batman back in the late 1930s, in actuality a man named Bill Finger was involved in a great deal of the process as well (likely coming up with the iconic cowl/cape/symbol costume design and a number of the original villains). Nobleman sifts through old articles, recordings, and personal recollections to reconstruct the story of Finger, of which barely any was publicly known. In order to take his research to the "next step" of actual getting Finger credited for Batman's creation, Marc must find an heir which he (rather improbably) does, at which point the story morphs into an emotional tale of a family still grieving a death from many, many years ago.
I think the reason that "Batman & Bill" works so well is because it turns into a great story on two levels: First, Finger's influence on the Batman character is utterly fascinating, as well as the belligerence (and sometimes out and out negligence) of Kane, DC, & Warner Bros. in keeping Finger's name off the Batman credits. Nobleman stays very fair and balanced throughout this entire investigative portion, fortunately, as the whole thing easily could come off as a ranting attack on "big boys" Kane/DC/WB. That isn't nearly the case here, however, as Nobleman backs up any claims on Kane's behavior with documented evidence to support him. The bottom line is that research and accounts show that Finger's name should be on the screen or page with Kane's when it comes to the "created by" credit, and it is amazing to think that this has been "hidden" (or at least not unearthed) for 75-odd years.
Perhaps just as important, though, is how the story turns out to be a very emotional one once Nobleman starts unearthing people who personally knew Finger or members of the Finger family. Finger himself was bisexual and died from AIDS, both of which were much more taboo in the era they occurred (1980s) and thus hidden or swept under the rug. What Nobleman finds, then, is a family yearning to have some closure on the life of their father/husband/grandfather. At times there were tears welling up in my eyes, as Nobleman really was doing this family a great service in painting a picture of Bill Finger's life.
Anyone who is a fan of Batman (in any iteration) or pop culture documentaries in general absolutely needs to see "Batman & Bill". In terms of investigative work and righting some of the wrongs of history, the documentary is a shining example of how that is done. For those who might say "who cares this happened 70-some years ago", all they must do is look at the impact this information has on the Finger heirs, and the "who cares" question is answered in emotional fashion. All told, easily one of the best documentaries I have seen in a long, long time.
Basically, "Batman & Bill" tells the story of how author/comic fan Marc Tyler Nobleman started a research project into the origins of the Batman character. Initially he had no idea what he would find, but very quickly he stumbled upon a bit of an investigative gold mine: Though Bob Kane was given basically 100% of the credit for creating Batman back in the late 1930s, in actuality a man named Bill Finger was involved in a great deal of the process as well (likely coming up with the iconic cowl/cape/symbol costume design and a number of the original villains). Nobleman sifts through old articles, recordings, and personal recollections to reconstruct the story of Finger, of which barely any was publicly known. In order to take his research to the "next step" of actual getting Finger credited for Batman's creation, Marc must find an heir which he (rather improbably) does, at which point the story morphs into an emotional tale of a family still grieving a death from many, many years ago.
I think the reason that "Batman & Bill" works so well is because it turns into a great story on two levels: First, Finger's influence on the Batman character is utterly fascinating, as well as the belligerence (and sometimes out and out negligence) of Kane, DC, & Warner Bros. in keeping Finger's name off the Batman credits. Nobleman stays very fair and balanced throughout this entire investigative portion, fortunately, as the whole thing easily could come off as a ranting attack on "big boys" Kane/DC/WB. That isn't nearly the case here, however, as Nobleman backs up any claims on Kane's behavior with documented evidence to support him. The bottom line is that research and accounts show that Finger's name should be on the screen or page with Kane's when it comes to the "created by" credit, and it is amazing to think that this has been "hidden" (or at least not unearthed) for 75-odd years.
Perhaps just as important, though, is how the story turns out to be a very emotional one once Nobleman starts unearthing people who personally knew Finger or members of the Finger family. Finger himself was bisexual and died from AIDS, both of which were much more taboo in the era they occurred (1980s) and thus hidden or swept under the rug. What Nobleman finds, then, is a family yearning to have some closure on the life of their father/husband/grandfather. At times there were tears welling up in my eyes, as Nobleman really was doing this family a great service in painting a picture of Bill Finger's life.
Anyone who is a fan of Batman (in any iteration) or pop culture documentaries in general absolutely needs to see "Batman & Bill". In terms of investigative work and righting some of the wrongs of history, the documentary is a shining example of how that is done. For those who might say "who cares this happened 70-some years ago", all they must do is look at the impact this information has on the Finger heirs, and the "who cares" question is answered in emotional fashion. All told, easily one of the best documentaries I have seen in a long, long time.
10zmos99
Incredibly well done. This is the story of one man who realized that the cocreator a Batman died alone, penniless, and without credit for what he has done. One man who made it his life's mission to write that wrong. He thereby became Batman for the cocreator of Batman, Bill finger.
I kept thinking how perfectly this documentary is done. The music, the interviews, the animations all serve to really move you. If you can get to the end of this with a dry eye, check your pulse :-)
I kept thinking how perfectly this documentary is done. The music, the interviews, the animations all serve to really move you. If you can get to the end of this with a dry eye, check your pulse :-)
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