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Des adolescents incontrôlables de toute l'Amérique ont été envoyés dans un camp de thérapie dans le désert de l'Utah. Les conditions étaient brutales, mais le personnel était encore pire.Des adolescents incontrôlables de toute l'Amérique ont été envoyés dans un camp de thérapie dans le désert de l'Utah. Les conditions étaient brutales, mais le personnel était encore pire.Des adolescents incontrôlables de toute l'Amérique ont été envoyés dans un camp de thérapie dans le désert de l'Utah. Les conditions étaient brutales, mais le personnel était encore pire.
Steve Cartisano
- Self
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Kari Callahan
- Self - Matthew's Mom
- (as Kari)
Debbie Cartisano
- Self - Steve's Ex-Wife
- (as Debbie)
Kristen Chase
- Self - Joined Challenger Camp June 1990 Aged 16
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Sharon Fuqua
- Self - Kristen's Mom
- (as Sharon)
David Chase
- Self - Kristen's Brother
- (as David)
Larry Weinberg
- Self - Adam's Dad
- (as Larry)
David Cartisano
- Self - Steve & Debbie's Son
- (images d'archives)
- (as David)
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I think the piece grants more screen time than required to cover the muddled opinions of Steve Cartisano's family (who sound so full of themselves) and much less on the victims and the tragedies they faced. That could either be an error in judgment on the filmmaker's part or, most likely, a Netflix decision to try to soften the emotional blow until the closing moments. Institutionalized abuse and the resulting trauma are discussed in all their somber detail, in what feels like American parents trying to run behind quick fixes for habitual (and often psychological) issues of their teenagers.
While I'm not surprised that wilderness therapy camps continue to exist in the States, given there are people who willingly sign up for haunted experiences and get tormented (oh, watch that documentary too if you must), what bothers me is how some folks still believe in the ideology of putting teenagers through clearly abusive methods to "teach them a lesson" and "turn them into good people". And if you're you're gonna say "Stuff like this would never happen in 2023", then I guess you're the one living under a rock. Worse things happens today.
While I'm not surprised that wilderness therapy camps continue to exist in the States, given there are people who willingly sign up for haunted experiences and get tormented (oh, watch that documentary too if you must), what bothers me is how some folks still believe in the ideology of putting teenagers through clearly abusive methods to "teach them a lesson" and "turn them into good people". And if you're you're gonna say "Stuff like this would never happen in 2023", then I guess you're the one living under a rock. Worse things happens today.
First off,
I respect various organizations who legitimately assist with youth programs for "troubled" kids, I think we all do. At the same time, the finger can be pointed at the parents who don't fully understand where and what they are sending their child to because they haven't done their due diligence. Sounds like they are failing on both fronts, failing their kids and failing themselves.
Secondly, The absolute most satisfying part of this, and I don't mean this harshly, is the kids this man was trying to "save" were the exact same as his own kids who he did basically nothing for. So, you have this man taking thousands of dollars from other parents to "save" their children, and this person is also a parent who is actually failing his own! It's funny how that works out isn't it? The timeless classic of people not practicing what they preach, like this child abuser did. Publicly announcing himself as a saint, but just another wolf in sheep's clothing..an absolute Hypocrite!!
Nevertheless, if you want to watch some unfortunate children being pushed to near death experiences to "make them a better person" then this is for you.
Or If you like seeing hypocrisy exposed, then this is for you as well.
Camp Hell it's called, well there's a special spot for this man in the afterlife version.
Secondly, The absolute most satisfying part of this, and I don't mean this harshly, is the kids this man was trying to "save" were the exact same as his own kids who he did basically nothing for. So, you have this man taking thousands of dollars from other parents to "save" their children, and this person is also a parent who is actually failing his own! It's funny how that works out isn't it? The timeless classic of people not practicing what they preach, like this child abuser did. Publicly announcing himself as a saint, but just another wolf in sheep's clothing..an absolute Hypocrite!!
Nevertheless, if you want to watch some unfortunate children being pushed to near death experiences to "make them a better person" then this is for you.
Or If you like seeing hypocrisy exposed, then this is for you as well.
Camp Hell it's called, well there's a special spot for this man in the afterlife version.
I was in the last group to run-in in Utah before the state of Utah shut them down. I still have scars on my body the whole time I was there. I had sores that I'd have to walk on for four months. I was 13..never did drugs, never drank alcohol, never partied, never had a run-in with the , and was still a virgin, just a normal teenager who didn't pick up her room. My mom thought this would be a way to get me to "be a good girl". The description of "out of control teenagers" is wrong... there were a lot of normal kids there. Kids with parents that just didn't want to be a parent.. or in my case just wanted someone to teach me a lesson.
From hiking the desert to child slave labor, this Steve. Cartisano guy was a real psychopath who preyed on distraught families once their kids started acted out. This man had a real evil about him that seemed obvious to most the kids but not the dumb parents who were paying outrageous fees just for their children to be bullied into behaving better, a method which always works. Steve is the real POS here no doubt about it but the documentary would have been better if we heard less from his wife who made him sound like a pioneer and almost heroic. Her along with their daughter keep trying to say he had nothing do with the bad things that happened, not only at 1 but 3 of his camps since he was never there. Not really a great argument for a man preaching how much he cares.
Parents that had no idea of how to deal with their children, decide it's a good idea to send them out to the middle of the desert, in extreme temperatures, run by a man named Steve Cartisano. This is not a movie, people, I kid you not, this is a true story.
I've said it before, and I'll say again, as a Brit, I find some of the thought processes over in The States, Alien, who on Earth with half a brain cell would think this was a good idea, let's be honest, this happened in recent memory, not the 1800's.
I honestly couldn't believe what I was watching, that said it's a very well made and interesting documentary, although you may find it hard to understand the actions of many people.
Whilst the theory of teaching young people discipline, isn't exactly outrageous, what did they honestly think was going to happen under the circumstances, no law enforcement......there's the red flag right there.
'A gift working with kids,' well clearly not, these occurrences happened on his watch.
That mother?????? I have no words, that poor girl.
Why do people have kids if they don't know how to parent them.
8/10.
I've said it before, and I'll say again, as a Brit, I find some of the thought processes over in The States, Alien, who on Earth with half a brain cell would think this was a good idea, let's be honest, this happened in recent memory, not the 1800's.
I honestly couldn't believe what I was watching, that said it's a very well made and interesting documentary, although you may find it hard to understand the actions of many people.
Whilst the theory of teaching young people discipline, isn't exactly outrageous, what did they honestly think was going to happen under the circumstances, no law enforcement......there's the red flag right there.
'A gift working with kids,' well clearly not, these occurrences happened on his watch.
That mother?????? I have no words, that poor girl.
Why do people have kids if they don't know how to parent them.
8/10.
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