Jusqu'à ce que le meurtre nous sépare

Netflix has done a solid job churning out this relatively-compelling documentary mini-series.

It centers around a brutal double homicide and the two individuals believed to have been involved in it. But questions about each individual's role in the crime loom, and each opens itself up to meaningful rabbit holes worthy of true crime exploration.

But don't expect this mini-series to get to the bottom of any questions or even explore any rabbit hole in much depth. Expect, rather, sneak peaks of many rabbit holes. It's sort of like the Ikea Showroom of intellectually-compelling true crime - entertaining enough but lacking punch.

I especially surprised that, even near the end of the series, some basic elements of the crime (logistics, brutality, etc.) were not discussed, though they both could have made meaningful and highly-relevant talking points. My inner philosophy student was also somewhat surprised that they failed to mention the prisoner's dilemma.

It almost seems like the series was put together kind of shabbily - if not carelessly. Another sign of this is that Jens Soering's interviews are all in German, despite him speaking perfect English. This was probably because they used the footage from the previously-made German documentary "Killing For Love" (I haven't verified this but strongly suspect it). I don't take issue with the German itself, but it's just another reason to suspect that Netflix is - perhaps fittingly - not telling us the whole story here....

Thankfully, the basics of the story are very intriguing, and the whole story isn't necessary if one's goal is simply to produce "binge-worthy" true crime content. The real life mystery, therefore, provides all the intellectual weight. And coupled with the solid aesthetic production of any Netflix content, that makes for entertaining viewing. It sure could have been better, but that doesn't make it bad.

I enjoyed the documentary it was well made and good true crime!

Jens no matter how toxic their relationship was, he's a sick f$&k and still is.

One thing I noticed is that he speaks perfect English and still insisted on only speaking German in this American documentary. It shows how calculating and weird he is.

I don't care what his IQ is. He sick and evil.

Not saying she's perfect. Not even a victim. She was just more obvious.

Both are guilty in their own way. They were obsessed with each other. They both have to pay the price.

I don't think we will ever have the whole truth.

Good documentary though!!

It's been a while since I've seen a criminal documentary, the truth is that this one is very well documented. Very detailed and with very good moments in the courtroom, realistic and without actors, I loved that. Well.. almost all of them are the real characters of the investigation and the crime.

The story is strong, with real images of the crime, be careful if you are sensitive to this type of story, it can give you nightmares. The documentary is very exciting and has 4 episodes that keeps you on the edge of the seat. It has terrifying moments and those that leave you stunned.

There is more than enough evidence to imprison them both, the letters between Elizabeth and Jens are the best example. If the crime was committed by Elizabeth or Jens, or both, only they will know. We will never know, although the movie tickets made me doubt, but the truth is that I don't know, it's quite complicated. That they deserve jail, that's certainly clear to me.

Jens uses his intelligence to turn the story around, very credible in my opinion. He served more than 30 years in prison, so there is a reasonable doubt. It is clear that the help of powerful politicians and his diplomatic status also help him. Let's be honest, because of him they freed Elizabeth too, that seemed strange to me but logical at the same time.

Jens leaves prison very happy and cheerful, but I imagine that after more than 30 years, prison becomes your home, right? Or so I think. I also didn't mind that he spoke in German, it is his native language and he expresses himself better that way.

This documentary is very well made, one of the best crime documentaries I have seen in recent years, and I also did not know about this crime.

It is worth it from start to finish, it is scary and at the same time it is very psychological. As you can see, I am a fan, I recommend it without a doubt.

There seems to be no doubt that Elizabeth's parents were killed by her, him or both of them. At the very least, they planned it together. What never ceases to amaze me is that he appears to be so happy. He spent 33 years in prison!! I can't help but think that, being the same age as Jens, it's as if I was put in prison at 21 and released today. A whole life lost and he appears happy. And another thing, why was he received as a hero in Germany? I'm also surprised that certain American politicians were so eager to set him free. After all, the sentence was never changed, he was and is guilty. The series? Good, a 6.

Of course, the Romeo and Juliet of the 1980s wouldn't end up like Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet - they would become Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. This is an intriguing and well-made 4-part true-crime documentary about two bookish, uppity Echols scholars who together planned and committed the murder of the girl's parents back in 1985. But who did what? And were they both to blame, or did one manipulate the other?

Unlike what many commenters on here seem to think, the series is actually made by a German crew, not an American one. Which arguably is one of the reasons why Jens speaks German in his new interviews. Another reason is obviously that he now lives in Germany and maybe is no longer that fond of the United States, which he claims are guilty of miscarriage of justice against him.

After watching the series, I don't really have any strong opinions as to who of the two did what, or who is more believeable. And that tells me the producers did a fairly good job in balancing their narrative. The series is not an apologia for Mr. Söring, even if the story he tells himself obviously is just that.

In summary, this is a story of star-crossed love, youthful arrogance/stupidity, and in all probability at least a certain amount of antisocial personality disorder(s).