[go: up one dir, main page]

    Calendrier de sortiesLes 250 meilleurs filmsLes films les plus populairesRechercher des films par genreMeilleur box officeHoraires et billetsActualités du cinémaPleins feux sur le cinéma indien
    Ce qui est diffusé à la télévision et en streamingLes 250 meilleures sériesÉmissions de télévision les plus populairesParcourir les séries TV par genreActualités télévisées
    Que regarderLes dernières bandes-annoncesProgrammes IMDb OriginalChoix d’IMDbCoup de projecteur sur IMDbGuide de divertissement pour la famillePodcasts IMDb
    EmmysSuperheroes GuideSan Diego Comic-ConSummer Watch GuideBest Of 2025 So FarDisability Pride MonthSTARmeter AwardsAwards CentralFestivalsTous les événements
    Né aujourd'huiLes célébrités les plus populairesActualités des célébrités
    Centre d'aideZone des contributeursSondages
Pour les professionnels de l'industrie
  • Langue
  • Entièrement prise en charge
  • English (United States)
    Partiellement prise en charge
  • Français (Canada)
  • Français (France)
  • Deutsch (Deutschland)
  • हिंदी (भारत)
  • Italiano (Italia)
  • Português (Brasil)
  • Español (España)
  • Español (México)
Liste de favoris
Se connecter
  • Entièrement prise en charge
  • English (United States)
    Partiellement prise en charge
  • Français (Canada)
  • Français (France)
  • Deutsch (Deutschland)
  • हिंदी (भारत)
  • Italiano (Italia)
  • Português (Brasil)
  • Español (España)
  • Español (México)
Utiliser l'appli
  • Distribution et équipe technique
  • Avis des utilisateurs
  • Anecdotes
  • FAQ
IMDbPro

The Unknown Known

  • 2013
  • PG-13
  • 1h 43min
NOTE IMDb
7,0/10
4,4 k
MA NOTE
Donald Rumsfeld in The Unknown Known (2013)
A portrait of Donald Rumsfeld, one of the key architects of the Iraq War, and a larger-than-life character who provoked equal levels of fury and adulation from the American public.
Lire trailer2:25
12 Videos
5 photos
BiographieGuerreL'histoireDocumentaireDocumentaire politique

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueFormer United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, discusses his career in Washington D.C. from his days as a congressman in the early 1960s to planning the invasion of Iraq in 2003... Tout lireFormer United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, discusses his career in Washington D.C. from his days as a congressman in the early 1960s to planning the invasion of Iraq in 2003.Former United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, discusses his career in Washington D.C. from his days as a congressman in the early 1960s to planning the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

  • Réalisation
    • Errol Morris
  • Scénario
    • Errol Morris
  • Casting principal
    • Donald Rumsfeld
    • Errol Morris
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    7,0/10
    4,4 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Errol Morris
    • Scénario
      • Errol Morris
    • Casting principal
      • Donald Rumsfeld
      • Errol Morris
    • 26avis d'utilisateurs
    • 97avis des critiques
    • 69Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 2 victoires et 10 nominations au total

    Vidéos12

    Theatrical Trailer
    Trailer 2:25
    Theatrical Trailer
    The Unknown Known: Behandlung Der Gefangenen (German Subtitled)
    Clip 3:04
    The Unknown Known: Behandlung Der Gefangenen (German Subtitled)
    The Unknown Known: Behandlung Der Gefangenen (German Subtitled)
    Clip 3:04
    The Unknown Known: Behandlung Der Gefangenen (German Subtitled)
    The Unknown Known: Treffen Mit Saddam Hussein (German Subtitled)
    Clip 2:47
    The Unknown Known: Treffen Mit Saddam Hussein (German Subtitled)
    The Unknown Known: Saddam Hussein (German Subtitled)
    Clip 2:10
    The Unknown Known: Saddam Hussein (German Subtitled)
    The Unknown Known: Watergate (German Subtitled)
    Clip 1:54
    The Unknown Known: Watergate (German Subtitled)
    The Unknown Known: Saddam Hussein Verantwortlich Fuer 9/11 (German Subtitled)
    Clip 1:40
    The Unknown Known: Saddam Hussein Verantwortlich Fuer 9/11 (German Subtitled)

    Photos4

    Voir l'affiche
    Voir l'affiche
    Voir l'affiche
    Voir l'affiche

    Rôles principaux2

    Modifier
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Donald Rumsfeld
    • Self
    Errol Morris
    Errol Morris
    • Self - Interviewer
    • (voix)
    • Réalisation
      • Errol Morris
    • Scénario
      • Errol Morris
    • Toute la distribution et toute l’équipe technique
    • Production, box office et plus encore chez IMDbPro

    Avis des utilisateurs26

    7,04.3K
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10

    Avis à la une

    7copyright908

    Rumsfeld Unplugged

    The Unknown Known

    There is a myth about the documentary film genre that it is some sort of quest for objective truth; when in fact there is no greater and often times no more effective means of subjective film making . No documentarian worth his salt is going to go forward with a project without a point of view.

    And so it is with documentarian Errol Morris as he tries to pin down former defense secretary Don Rumsfeld to some objective truths about the war in Iraq. It's slow going.

    For Morris this is not without precedent. In his "The Fog of War" he was able to get Lyndon Johnson's (and I should also add John Kennedy's) secretary of defense Robert Mac Namara, a chief architect of the Viet Nam war to show contrition, regret and even self pity about the advice he gave and decisions he made during that turbulent time. To those like Morris who believe that the Viet Nam war was a disaster, this must have proved satisfying. They gave him an Academy Award for it . Morris also believes the Iraq war was a disaster but in Rumsfeld he found a much tougher nut to crack.

    The film documents Rumsfeld's rise to power as a career politician and bureaucrat in which he navigated through many a troubled water to become a trusted confidant and administrator for Presidents Ford, Reagan, and Bush the second, and given a certain set circumstances might have become President of the United States. But he made some enemies too, Nixon chief of staff Bob Haldeman, George Bush the first, and his national security adviser Brent Scowcroft, as well as a very public feud with Condoleezza Rice. And these were his fellow Republicans! Richard Nixon called Rumsfeld "a ruthless little bastard" and I can't imagine a statement like that coming from higher authority.

    The long and the short of it is that Rumsfeld has faced off against a lot tougher guys than Errol Morris.

    Morris seems now to suspect that Rumsfeld might have got the best of him, since in his post release interviews he emphasizes how Rumsfeld "horrifies' him. However, that doesn't come off in the film. Rumsfeld appears to be a man of considerable charm and wit, with an easy humor about events and himself.

    It is well to remember that Rumsfeld fully co-operated with this project, one might even say eagerly co-operated. He wanted his side publicly aired and decided to do it this way, even though he knew Morris's predisposition. To Morris's credit he gives Rumsfeld free reign and ample opportunity to make his case.

    But Rumsfeld does not control the editing process and it here that Morris strikes back. Using cross cutting, graphics, and archival footage Morris exposes Rumsfeld's renowned candor as a smokescreen for obfuscation and evasion. Most particularly, in Rumsfeld's now famous, or infamous if you prefer, philosophical rumination on what could be known or unknown , or whatever the hell he said, in response to a direct question as to whether he (Rumsfeld) had any evidence that Sadam Hussein had participated or assisted in the 9/11 attacks. This was called by the press at the time (rather admiringly I might add) as "Rummy speak".

    In the film Rumsfeld admits there wasn't then and isn't now any such evidence.

    Even more telling to me was his mastery of expressing a limited truth and passing it off as candor. In summing up the Viet Nam War Rumsfeld says this: "Some things work out, some things don't .That one didn't." Hard to argue with that. True, as far as it goes, but it does not illuminate. Hell, I could have come up with that over a couple of Irish Whiskeys at the local tavern, and maybe even thought to be pretty profound by my fellow inebriates at the bar, but I think we have a right to expect more than that from our public officials. Did we learn anything? Would we do anything differently? In listening to Rumsfeld's echo the answer is apparently and depressingly, no. Given the perceived threats at the respective times in Iraq and Viet Nam, our policy makers did exactly the same thing.

    Author Evan S. Connell in his book "Son of the Morning Star" recounts how General Philip Sheridan as one of the key policy makers leading to the destruction of the Plains Indian tribes after the defeat of Custer at the Little Big Horn, reflected on his role. Sheridan seemed to empathize with the Indians and implied that had the situations been reversed, he would have acted in the very same way the Indians had. He would have resisted. To which Connell comments: "Like other generals, bureaucrats and private citizens who contribute to some irrevocable disaster, he wondered about it afterward."

    Not Donald Rumsfeld, no qualms, no regrets, no apologies. He did his duty and history can sort it out. And of course it will.

    Morris ends the film with a shot of an empty ocean which I took to be metaphor and interpreted thus: It is shimmering and shiny, even magnificent to look at but who knows what horrors lie beneath the surface. Like Donald Rumsfeld, it covers the "Unknown Knowns".
    8classicalsteve

    An Atypical Documentary Whose Amoral Subject Speaks for Himself

    There's something maddeningly chaotic about Donald Rumsfeld's logic in terms of US international policy. When he was in press conferences during the Iraq War under W Bush, Rumsfeld's answers to tough questions often rang of the so-called "double-speak", a term which is associated with but not explicitly used in George Orwell's "1984". He would respond with other questions or make unfunny jokes. He would use strange metaphors. Rarely did he simply answer direct questions. Errol Morris' documentary about Rumsfeld is strangely similar. He has Rumsfeld do most of the talking, and what comes out of the former Defense Secretary's mouth is a barrage of inconsistencies, untruths, and illogical conclusions. In short, Rumsfeld's whole way of thinking is a jumbled incomprehensible mess. And yet, he was one of the most powerful people in the W Bush administration during the first decade of the 21st century. You could argue W Bush had flawed judgment, Dick Cheney was immoral, but Rumsfeld is in his own realm. As Morris said in an interview, he was one of the most "self-deceiving" people he had ever interviewed.

    The format of the documentary is one of the strangest you'll ever see in a film of this type. The subject himself is the narrator. He narrates and then comments on the different subjects covered in the documentary. He occasionally answers questions posed by Errol Morris who can be heard in the background. One of the former Defense Secretary's most interesting phrases is "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", a phrase coined by Carl Sagan when referring to the unknown realms of outer space. Rumsfeld is famous for composing 1000's of email memos, and recurring throughout the memos are his definitions of particular words and terms which are displayed on-screen. The film traces his childhood, his early years in politics under President Nixon and briefly under Gerald Ford. He was an adviser for Governor Reagan and later for President Reagan and George Bush Senior. Most of the documentary concerns the Iraq War and his tenure as Defense Secretary under George W Bush.

    One example which highlights Rumsfeld own self-deception and denial is when Morris asks about the public perception concerning Saddam Hussein after the 9/11 attacks. Rumsfeld in the documentary claims people knew that Hussein and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The documentary then cuts to a Rumsfeld press conference clip of 2003 in which a reporter quotes Saddam Hussein: "I would like to tell you directly we have no relationship with Al Queada." Rumsfeld's reply: "And Abraham Lincoln was short." The reporter than asks Rumsfeld to respond to Hussein's statement and the Secretary of Defense simply says that Hussein "rarely tells the truth". The implication is clear: Rumsfeld wants the public to believe that Hussein and Iraq contributed to 9/11. If you read between the lines, and realize what is unsaid rather than said, Rumsfeld never actually states that Hussein is lying about having a relationship with Al-Queada. He makes the Lincoln analogy joke and he says that Hussein has a pattern of lying, but never once did Rumsfeld himself directly accuse Hussein of lying about having a relationship Al-Quaeda. This is the kind of double-talk, doublespeak which is how Rumsfeld's reasoning seems to work.

    People have criticized the documentary as raising many more questions than it answers. This may be the point of the film. Rumsfeld comes off, at best, as a completely self-deceived person whose rationalities have no logic, and at worst an amoral international leader who got us into an unjust war. His logic, we "lacked imagination" to see the Japanese coming when they attacked Pearl Harbor and thereby justifies the War in Iraq. As Morris points out in an interview, if we can imagine our enemies doing anything in the future, then we can rationalize military operations for almost any reason at any time.
    8texshelters

    Rumsfeld's lifetime of service to war plays out in The Unknown Known

    Donald Rumsfeld, The Unknown Known, and his Lifetime of Service to War

    The Unknown Known is the latest documentary from Errol Morris. Like his interviews with Robert McNamara in his film Fog of War, he interviews another architect of war, this time the Second Iraq War.

    Unlike former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara who pushed a continuation of the Vietnam conflict when he was in office, Donald Rumsfeld is not apologetic about his role in sending Americans off to die overseas. In his book In Retrospect, McNamara states in Time Magazine, "We were wrong, terribly wrong. We owe it to future generations to explain why."

    Rumsfeld has no apologies to make, according to the man himself. And he learned no lesson from Vietnam except, as he would say, "it was a failure of imagination" that we lost in Vietnam.

    Even Nixon apologized about his mistakes when talking to David Frost.

    I am sure Director Morris was under legal contract not to ask tough, direct questions of Rumsfeld. Thus, he let Rumsfeld indict himself. Rumsfeld is narcissistic and unapologetic about the Second Iraq War. He sees no wrong in making the U.S. strong militarily regardless in how that strength is used. He does not, in The Unknown Known, see that the Second Iraq War was based on lies at all. He sees no lies. He submits that Saddam Hussein and Iraq did have WMDs, we just couldn't find them. He believes the U.N. weapons inspectors were duped and needed to keep looking. He does not agree that water boarding is torture, no matter what Human Rights Watch and others say. He sees know wrong except in our "failure of imagination."

    Rumsfeld is a master of Newspeak, using phrases like "peace through strength", and "weakness is provocation." This all comes out in the movie, and it was no surprise to most of the audience. He lives in a world of lies, and the person he deludes the most is himself. Rating: Rent it. It is worth a view, and I would love to say that you should see it multiple times.

    But there are no dramatic revelations in the movie, no sense of awaking. In fact, the lesson is that a beltway insider has many ways to deny the suffering of others, especially those we kill thousands of miles away for no cause. Rumsfeld sees war not as a destination, but a journey. As long as the U.S. stays on that journey, he is happy.

    Peace, Tex Shelters
    8robert-temple-1

    Rumsfeld remains an unknown known

    I have rarely been so perplexed by a documentary film as by this one. It is 102 minutes long, and for much of that time Donald Rumsfeld is talking to the director/interviewer Errol Morris. However, despite that, I now feel that I know less about Donald Rumsfeld than I did before I saw the film. I almost preferred him as an unknown unknown to what he now is, an unknown known. Rumsfeld manages to talk endlessly in what appears to be a very candid way, without ever really saying anything. A few salient facts do emerge, but only a few. The most surprising one to me was the revelation that he and George Bush Senior evidently detest one another, although Rumsfeld thinks very highly indeed of 'W'. I also did not realize until I saw this film that Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney are so close, and worked together for so many years, that they are like brothers. However, a slight trace of vanity appeared throughout the film as Rumsfeld was always very careful to describe Cheney on several occasions as 'my deputy'. Just in case little brother got any big ideas about forgetting who was the older brother, I suppose. Cheney was indeed Rumsfeld's deputy for a long time in office. When Cheney became Vice President, it was Cheney who recommended to George W. that Rumsfeld be made Secretary of Defence. So yes, some facts did emerge, and they are interesting. As for Rumsfeld himself, he remains an enigma in the highest degree. I was surprised to discover how astonishingly intelligent Rumsfeld was. One does not normally expect to find that in a public figure. But the most interesting aspect of Rumsfeld's personality is that a sense of ironical whimsicality seems to pervade everything he says, thinks, and does. Those grins that he makes are not normal grins, they are grins at the ironical whimsicality of situations and events. They are an invitation to those watching him to share his sense of irony and delight. Rumsfeld's grins do not say, as most grins do: 'Hello, I'm very friendly,' they say instead: 'Isn't that wonderfully whimsical, and don't you want to grin with me about it?' In other words, Rumsfeld is not like other men. I had no idea that Rumsfeld had commenced working in the executive branch of the Government during the Kennedy Administration, having previously been a congressman. This film says nothing whatever of his business activities, and does not mention his launching of the agricultural chemical spray Roundup upon the world, which in some opinions was an act more serious than the Iraq War, and may cause more deaths (deaths which cannot be defended on any 'just cause' basis, as the cause was only making money). No one could appear to cooperate more in making a film about himself than Donald Rumsfeld did, but the feeling afterwards is that he is a master at appearing to be transparent while all the while surrounding himself in a cloud of ink like an octopus. People often joke about eating Chinese food (in a bad Chinese restaurant), when they consume a lot but feel hungry immediately afterwards. Well! Where is the real meat on Rumsfeld, or is he all grissle? Nor is there any fat to chew on, only snowflakes. This man is a mystery, truly he is.
    rogerdarlington

    A fascinating look at an abuse of power

    "There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns - there are things we do not know we don't know." This was the enigmatic quote from American politician Donald Rumsfeld that inspired the title of this interview by acclaimed documentary maker Errol Morris. Rumsfeld had an astonishing career working for no fewer than four US presidents and serving twice as Secretary of State for Defense - once as the youngest holder of the position (1975- 1977) and then later as the oldest holder of the post (2001-2006). In his second term as Defense Secretary, he was a principal architect of the so-called 'war on terror', sending troops into Afghanistan and then Iraq.

    The fascinating testimony presented by Morris is both written and oral. Rumsfeld was famous for his blizzard of memos - known as "snowflakes" - and Morris managed to gain access to all the unclassified ones and to persuade Rumsfeld to read out the most relevant to the documentary. Additionally Morris posed a series of searching questions in an interview shot over 11 days and recorded using the film maker's trademark "Interrotron" device which means that Rumsfeld is seen staring straight into the camera. It has to be said that Rumsfeld is a fluent writer and an articulate speaker and, after eight decades, is as sharp as ever, so there is no revelatory moment like David Frost's interview with Richard Nixon, but it is precisely his evasiveness and the charming manner in which he accomplishes this that is so revealing of a bizarre and (when given power) frightening character.

    I saw "The Known Unknown" at its UK premiere in central London's Curzon Soho cinema in the presence of Errol Morris who made some opening remarks and then, after the screening, took a question & answer session. He compared this documentary with "The Fog Of War", his 2003 interview with another US Defense Secretary when he questioned Robert McNamara on the Vietnam war, and called the two films "bookends". He noted that McNamara was "deeply reflective", but characterised Rumsfeld's performance as "deeply unreflective". He called Rumsfeld "a skillful obscurantist" who was "obsessive with language" and had "a complete lack of irony", highlighting his "infernal grin".

    The banality of much of Rumsfeld's language - "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" - reminded me of Peter Sellers' penultimate film "Being There" (1979) in which he played a simple gardener whose bland aphorisms about nature led to him being co-opted by America's political power brokers. Morris has done us a service in capturing all this for history in the hope that we can learn from history. What is totally unclear is why Rumsfeld agreed to the interview. This was Morris's last question to him and he responded: "I'll be darned if I know".

    Vous aimerez aussi

    American Dharma
    7,0
    American Dharma
    The Unbelievers
    6,9
    The Unbelievers
    The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara
    8,0
    The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara
    Oy Vey! My Son Is Gay!!
    5,2
    Oy Vey! My Son Is Gay!!
    Il était une fois au Viêtnam
    5,2
    Il était une fois au Viêtnam
    Une brève histoire du temps
    7,3
    Une brève histoire du temps
    A Young Doctor's Notebook & Other Stories
    7,7
    A Young Doctor's Notebook & Other Stories
    Mr. Death - Grandeur et décadence de Fred A. Leuchter Jr.
    7,5
    Mr. Death - Grandeur et décadence de Fred A. Leuchter Jr.
    Helix
    6,7
    Helix
    Wormwood
    7,0
    Wormwood
    Tabloid
    7,0
    Tabloid
    Standard Operating Procedure
    7,4
    Standard Operating Procedure

    Histoire

    Modifier

    Le saviez-vous

    Modifier
    • Anecdotes
      This same director also made Fog of War, a similar film that featured an extensive interview with Vietnam-era Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara. Both films were highly critical of their lead subjects management of war.
    • Crédits fous
      Ivan & Boris
    • Connexions
      Featured in At the Movies: Venice Film Festival 2013 (2013)
    • Bandes originales
      White Christmas
      Written by Irving Berlin

      Performed by Tennessee Ernie Ford

      Courtesy of Capitol Records Nashville under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    Meilleurs choix

    Connectez-vous pour évaluer et suivre la liste de favoris afin de recevoir des recommandations personnalisées
    Se connecter

    FAQ

    • How long is The Unknown Known?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

    Modifier
    • Date de sortie
      • 16 janvier 2014 (Italie)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Donald Rumsfeld: certezas desconocidas
    • Sociétés de production
      • History Films
      • Moxie Pictures
      • Participant
    • Voir plus de crédits d'entreprise sur IMDbPro

    Box-office

    Modifier
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 276 497 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 64 315 $US
      • 6 avr. 2014
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 301 604 $US
    Voir les infos détaillées du box-office sur IMDbPro

    Spécifications techniques

    Modifier
    • Durée
      1 heure 43 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Dolby Digital
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

    Contribuer à cette page

    Suggérer une modification ou ajouter du contenu manquant
    Donald Rumsfeld in The Unknown Known (2013)
    Lacune principale
    By what name was The Unknown Known (2013) officially released in Canada in English?
    Répondre
    • Voir plus de lacunes
    • En savoir plus sur la contribution
    Modifier la page

    Découvrir

    Récemment consultés

    Activez les cookies du navigateur pour utiliser cette fonctionnalité. En savoir plus
    Obtenir l'application IMDb
    Identifiez-vous pour accéder à davantage de ressourcesIdentifiez-vous pour accéder à davantage de ressources
    Suivez IMDb sur les réseaux sociaux
    Obtenir l'application IMDb
    Pour Android et iOS
    Obtenir l'application IMDb
    • Aide
    • Index du site
    • IMDbPro
    • Box Office Mojo
    • Licence de données IMDb
    • Salle de presse
    • Annonces
    • Emplois
    • Conditions d'utilisation
    • Politique de confidentialité
    • Your Ads Privacy Choices
    IMDb, une société Amazon

    © 1990-2025 by IMDb.com, Inc.