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Het diner

  • 2013
  • 1h 28min
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6,0/10
2,6 k
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Het diner (2013)
DramaThriller

Deux couples aisés qui ont beaucoup à perdre dînent ensemble pour discuter de l'acte horrible que leurs fils adolescents ont peut-être commis ensemble.Deux couples aisés qui ont beaucoup à perdre dînent ensemble pour discuter de l'acte horrible que leurs fils adolescents ont peut-être commis ensemble.Deux couples aisés qui ont beaucoup à perdre dînent ensemble pour discuter de l'acte horrible que leurs fils adolescents ont peut-être commis ensemble.

  • Réalisation
    • Menno Meyjes
  • Scénario
    • Herman Koch
    • Menno Meyjes
  • Casting principal
    • Thekla Reuten
    • Daan Schuurmans
    • Kim van Kooten
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,0/10
    2,6 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Menno Meyjes
    • Scénario
      • Herman Koch
      • Menno Meyjes
    • Casting principal
      • Thekla Reuten
      • Daan Schuurmans
      • Kim van Kooten
    • 2avis d'utilisateurs
    • 8avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire et 10 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux24

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    Thekla Reuten
    Thekla Reuten
    • Claire
    Daan Schuurmans
    Daan Schuurmans
    • Serge
    Kim van Kooten
    Kim van Kooten
    • Babette
    Jacob Derwig
    Jacob Derwig
    • Paul
    Jonas Smulders
    • Michel
    Reinout Bussemaker
    Reinout Bussemaker
    • Rector
    Noah de Nooij
    • Jonge Beau
    André Dongelmans
    André Dongelmans
    • Beau
    • (as Andre Dongelmans)
    Lukas Dijkema
    Lukas Dijkema
    • Fietsenhandelaar
    Maurits de Kroon
    • Jonge Michiel
    Gusta Geleijnse
    • Dakloze
    • (as Gusta Geleynse)
    Dani Stauder
    • Tourist
    Wil van der Meer
    • Tonio
    Sabine Soetanto
    Camilla Meurer
    Camilla Meurer
    • Reserveringsdame
    Olaf Malmberg
    • Fotograaf
    Hanne Arendzen
    • Naomi
    Harpert Michielsen
    • Gerant
    • Réalisation
      • Menno Meyjes
    • Scénario
      • Herman Koch
      • Menno Meyjes
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    5Field78

    A feast too low in calories

    In the Netherlands, we have had some artistic and commercial success with movies that take place in one room and concern people discussing something they prefer to keep quiet. 'Quiz' was a nice example, and especially 'Loft' was a well-made and tense thriller, although we need to thank our friends the Belgians for that last one, since they provided the also excellent original version. 'Het Diner' is an originally Dutch novel that has been sold to many countries, so I thought I had some good reasons to expect something of the movie adaptation. Sadly, this is one of those instances where it shows that a good book not necessarily translates into a good movie.

    My biggest problem is that the movie doesn't seem to work one way or another. Although I don't know the book, I can imagine roughly two ways to approach a story like this: a thriller like Loft, or a black comedy like Quiz. The first one would have worked best in my opinion, given the grave subject matter of teenage homicide, but director/screenwriter Menno Meyes seems to have been aiming mostly for the latter. That doesn't have to be an obstacle for a good movie, but he doesn't have a firm handle on the material to make it work like a black comedy with some thriller elements. Maybe also because he only allows himself a meager 88 minutes to tell this story, which leaves little time for background to the characters, or a decent ending.

    The story is partially about the interaction between 4 characters, and partially about the interior monologues of the main character Paul. It is therefore not surprising that the book was adapted into a successful stage play first. You can almost picture how the parts where Paul breaks the fourth wall were done in a theater, with a spotlight turned on him alone, and the other cast members kept in darkness. However, what works in theater doesn't necessarily work as well in cinema, also because it is only done a few times and not consistently. The rest of the times, Paul (Jacob Derwig) just provides voice-overs, which started to annoy me after a while. This is an obvious literary technique that can work in books and on stage, and sometimes in film. However, when constantly abused in a movie, it feels like a lack of creativity in using the visual medium; after all, one of the golden rules for film is "show, don't tell". Other advantages that movies have, such as building tension through photography and editing, are sadly underused as well. Director Meyes' choice not to rely too much on cinematic techniques can be praised, but he puts too much faith in the monologues, dialogues and the actors.

    Which brings me to the final point of criticism: the characterization of the four protagonists falls flat on its face. Character interactions, especially in a black comedy, work best if you have actors who know what makes their characters 'tick'; just look at Roman Polanski's 'Carnage' for a good example. But Jacob Derwig is the only one who gets a bit of backstory, and even so, his character is merely annoying and frustrated instead of interestingly layered. The other three characters range from sad to reprehensible, which could be interesting if they weren't so one-dimensional due to lack of exposure (apart from what Paul tells about them in his endless voice-overs). They often act and respond completely unpredictable, not as a twist, but simply because of poorly written roles that undoubtedly left out too much from the book. The talent of these fine actors feels quite wasted here, because there should have been more time allotted for exposition.

    Every adaptation needs to omit certain parts of the narrative, but here it feels like most of the heart of the story was cut out. The basic premise is still there, but the director did not have the experience to make it visually interesting. After an Italian remake, there has been talk about an American one, but it seems to be stuck in development for some time. Let's hope they use that time to get the script right this time, because with the right basis, this premise could really make for a good movie.
    4Amira-Says

    American version is better

    Normally I usually prefer the original adaption over another. This one unfortunately fell below my expectations because they omitted major keys points to the story which made it a bit boring to me. If you are unaware of the original book then this might easily be overlooked. I have to say that the American version of this is somewhat better because they included key information to the story that no one could possibly figure out without having read the book.

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    • Anecdotes
      Kim van Kooten and Jacob Derwig who play in-laws in this movie are married in real life.
    • Connexions
      Referenced in RTL Late Night: Épisode #1.50 (2013)
    • Bandes originales
      Happy Home
      Written by Steve Marker, Douglas Erickson, Shirley Manson and Bryan Vig

      Performed by Garbage

      Published by Vibecrusher Music and Deadarm Music (C)

      Administered by Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd.

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 7 novembre 2013 (Pays-Bas)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Pays-Bas
    • Site officiel
      • Official site
    • Langue
      • Néerlandais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Dinner
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Pays-Bas
    • Société de production
      • Eyeworks Film & TV Drama
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