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Code Name Geronimo (2012)

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Code Name Geronimo

59 commentaires
6/10

Perfectly good entertainment

Seems that any work of art depicting big historic moments must somehow live up to the subject in its own right. What would normally be a very entertaining, well made TV movie about a Seal operation now becomes a sub standard replication of a historic event that is maybe much too important to be told in such a light format. Or is it?

I don't think it has to be anything more than what it is. If I leave politics out of the equation, all I see is a pretty neat piece of entertainment. Plus points: Camera, lighting, soundtrack, choice of actors, acting performances. Minus points: script, storytelling, at times unlucky mix of real and fake footage.

The performances of William Fichtner and Robert Knepper were especially enjoyable. Knepper did an awesome job in annihilating his T-Bag persona, especially in scenes where the two were together. I admit, you look for that moment where one of them slips back into that Prison Break character. But nope, this was a new ballgame. Kathleen Robertson was the only one who came across non-authentic too many times, making the viewer slip out of the story. Once past her scenes, you slip right back into what is a well made, entertaining evening filler.

All in all I'd say the movie doesn't deserve the bad ratings it got. It's definitely in the upper third. Especially noteworthy are the camera and lighting. Another thing worth mentioning is the low- key acting of Anson Mount and Xzibit. The real world illusion that Kathleen Robertson destroyed was build right up again with the performance of these and the other actors.

If you're not a politically motivated person and you're not looking for a great message or statement, or an up-to the minute precise documentary of the actual events, this movie is well made, light entertainment.
  • petra-quilitz
  • 14 nov. 2012
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7/10

SEAL Team Six (Code name GERONIMO)

Seal Team Six is a 2008 American war film directed by the producer of The Hurt Locker, John Stockwell, inspired by actual events. John Stockwell (born on March 25, 1961) is an American actor, director, producer, writer and former model. It's a low-budget film which deals with the end of the infamous al-Qaeda head, Bin Laden, on May 2nd 2011. Moreover, it's a very short film which lasts only 90 minutes. After receiving orders of their superiors about the guarded compound in Pakistan, US intelligence have to dismantle the mission in a time limited. Very close to Zero Dark Thirty by Kathryn Bigelow, SEAL Team Six focuses on the truthfulness of the events and of the actions. It looks like a documentary which protects the X files of the government. The facts in the film were not "confirmed or denied" by White House officials. On the first hand, the script and direction are fairly matter-of-fact, even if there are lots of amazing shots of sunsets and landscapes), but on the other hand, there are lots of excellent performances as Connors, Ross Martin (as Mangus), Kamala Devi (as Teela), Pat Conway (as Captain William Maynard), and Adam West (as Delahay). These performances show why Geronimo is a success. The defects of the film are to avoid torture and to add fiction to reality. Yet, this film has lots of qualities as the final gunfight, the suspense, the moment of actions and the witch hunt against Bin Laden. We can also talk of the effects which engender the sense of danger and peril. They are no clear "bad guys" and "good guys" here. Rather, the conflicts of the film are portrayed as resulting from cultural dispositions, duty and necessity. Moreover, the film is visually amazing. The movie seems to be fascinating and full of new development but it has some little errors. It was nominated for the "Outstanding Art Direction For A Miniseries Or Movie" and for the "Outstanding Sound Editing For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special" in 2013. It was not the red-carpet premiere that John had in mind. Positive criticism: "Very interesting, I look first "Zero Dark Thirty" because it was a famous film by Kathryn Bigelow, and I personally think that "Code Name Geronimo" is better than it. The acting is amazing!" Negative criticism: "Fichtner, once again typecast as a stern authority figure, is arguably the best of a mediocre lot, but fails to ignite the film's plethora of arduous and poorly written scenes within US intelligence HQ. Similarly irksome is the grating contrivance that almost no member of this apparent 'crack team' of SEALs is able to keep their emotions in check for seemingly any longer than five minutes. Predictably, macho face-offs are in plentiful supply."

To conclude, I personally think that this film is a human and subjective vision of the war by the soldiers who are constantly trapped between life and death. I prefer Seal Team Six because it is more realistic than Zero Dark Thirty which is too exaggerated.
  • oass71
  • 11 mai 2014
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5/10

Propaganda film.

I think its a good movie, except for the Obama propaganda aspect of it. It does credit to those who actually are responsible for killing Bin Laden. To those with intelligence and who are informed, it will be hard to ignore the fact that the man who was least responsible for the missions success and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to approve this mission, is made out to be the hero. I am disappointed, but not surprised, that National Geographic made and aired this. It has ruined their reputation and exposes its political bias. I would advise to stay clear of this movie. Its government propaganda that has little to do with facts.
  • brv_75
  • 31 mars 2013
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aired before the 2012 presidential election?

here are what i found after viewed this hollow and empty, full of gestures and big patriotic words, absolutely meant nothing but to give a last minute Viagra-like campaign dose for the incumbent presidential candidate. why aired this before the election? why released it so generously on 'facebook' and 'twitter'? i strongly doubt that the national geography magazine liked to show obama that this magazine 100% endorsing president obama and would like to continuously receive full annual budget from this administration by showing that the president has played a critical role authorizing this mission. with this film released just before the election, more voters would vote for him, or voters who once were uncertain would decide in the last few days to vote for him.

okay, lets focus on this lousy film now. there was no strong storyline of this film. the cool actor who played the main character of 'hell on wheels" was totally wasted here. all the guys who played team members of the seal team 6 were just vague cardboard-like figures in this film. the dialog among the team members was so bored, there's nothing to watch for. some fighting scenes were totally unnecessary, they were jammed into this hollow film to fill up the empty spaces. the only good part was the CIA part, but still a very weak part. the training? it's absolutely a joke. the final raid? another big joke. after the raiders killed that 6'5" guy, suddenly, all the seal team 6 members were like taking a walk in new york's central park, walking down the stairs so relaxed, my god, what a lousy final moment of the raid. did you forget that you were carrying a secret mission in a sovereign country without the permission? did you guys know that time was the essence that you should immediately evacuate the target compound? but instead, what we saw was a bunch of u.s. GI so relaxingly walking down the stairs of that building just like walking out of the Yankee stadium after a ball game. give me a break.

again, i am so convinced that this movie was funded by this administration for the purpose of gaining more votes for the incumbent. it's so ideologically disgusting and politically incorrect.
  • rightwingisevil
  • 4 nov. 2012
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7/10

Low budget but ultimately entertaining

  • Robert_duder
  • 25 févr. 2013
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7/10

I really don't understand why this movie has so low-rate!

  • r-fronimides
  • 18 févr. 2023
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1/10

The story of how Seal Team 6 kills Osama Bin Laden

This was a movie I wanted to see based on the hype from NatGeo. This could have been a terrific movie if properly developed, because all the elements are here: how the CIA found Osama Bin Laden, how Seal Team 6 trained for the mission, how Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden, and the aftermath of Osama's death on the aircraft carrier. Unfortunately, none of this was done; instead, the producers decided to dramatize the killing of Osama Bin Laden and Seal Team 6's involvement in the typical 1940-1950's style. Instead of sticking to the facts of Osama's killing, the producers dramatized his death and the role of Seal Team 6. This movie seems to have been developed way before the news media released all the information they could gather about the killing of Osama Bin Laden and Seal Team 6's involvement. Almost everything has been dramatized to the detriment of the real story. This movie has more fiction than a novel. The movie has the feel of a Roger Corman quickie: bad script, mostly unknown actors, poorly directed, and acted. It was put together way too fast. It is a shame that Bob and Harvey Weinstein are associated with this dreadful movie. At the end, the movie is dedicated to the armed forces and intelligence community for what they do on a daily basis to keep us free. As a veteran, I am insulted with this trash. This movie deserves a turkey rating. Another problem was the way National Geographic presented the movie: way too many commercial breaks with way too many commercials. This movie should have been shown commercial free.
  • ScapegoatsOfTheEmpire
  • 4 nov. 2012
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7/10

Medium Grade Action Movie

I would say at least 75% of the 1-2 star reviews of this movie are politically swayed opinions due to the expression of "Obama Propaganda". The movie is not a work of art, however, it is not deserving of these obviously politically swayed 1 star reviews. It also seems like there was an expectation of this film to be a 100% step by step dramatization of what actually happened, which is not accurate. So, if you're looking for a typical war action movie to enjoy, this is it. If you believe that 30 seconds of Obama footage makes it propaganda, or if you are looking for an exact depiction of what happened, then pass.
  • ltask
  • 23 sept. 2019
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1/10

Insulting to the Military and Intelligence Communities

I gave it a one because it was the lowest rating possible. If we were to edit this movie down to the facts, it would have been about five minutes long.

It's one thing to take some artistic licence with a true story, but this movie didn't take licence. It seemed like they didn't get any support from the military and they didn't do much research. A lot of the details I noticed probably wouldn't have been noted by the average viewer.

However, the most glaring detail was the way the military was portrayed - like a bunch of high school drama queens. The kind of garbage portrayed in this movie was unrealistic at best.

Please, PLEASE don't waste your time.
  • godssailor
  • 13 juin 2013
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7/10

Shooting location

The shooting is entirely in India, so why is it being referred to and shown as Pakistan. MI movies had better use of technology and transmission devices.
  • somyac-87561
  • 14 août 2018
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1/10

Simply dreadful

  • Spartan10
  • 3 nov. 2012
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8/10

Good for a TV movie - different perspective than Zero Dark Thirty

  • phd_travel
  • 21 août 2015
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1/10

Poor Direction and Editing

Very bad job by makers, zero research done to depict truth and poor editing job as well. Most of the scenes of Pakistan were shot in India, that is ok as nobody wants to go to that place, its ok. But Indian flags seen in market, shops with Indian gods and names, not sure what the team was doing when shooting and making a film. Even the cars have a right hand drive, whereas in Pakistan its on left. half hearted effort and poorly executed.
  • buntypec
  • 14 août 2019
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1/10

More painful to watch than having fingernails peeled off with pliers

This movie is pretty horrendous. It is less entertaining than a 60 Minutes special report. It is so painfully slow, there is virtually no action--so it's value as an action movie is zero. For a movie, it plain sucks. It is so boring. For a documentary...it still sucks. It is so boring. The political agenda is so flagrant that you want to vomit. It's released for the presidential election; it opens with clips of Obama debating with various Republicans. It takes the time to show a quote of Romney saying how it's not worth it to move heaven and earth to catch one man. Really?? What the hell does that have anything to do with anything...except as some pathetic Hollywood endorsement of Obama. The movie tries to make Obama out to be the hero and the SEALs were just along for the ride. What's with all the Republican bashing? It's sad and pathetic. Boring, political advertisement.
  • ogbanker
  • 20 déc. 2012
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1/10

Terrible

  • schmieder67
  • 4 nov. 2012
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1/10

Pathetic

First of all. I started this movie with very high hope of entertainment and drama and a real instances. Turned out to be the most pathetic movie made ever in history of mankind. Starting with peshawar, pakistan and footage is of india maharashtra. Hotel ramakant. Seriously have some sense. I shut this nonsense movie off when i saw so called abotabad, again footage of india. Dude peshawar and abotabad both in pakistan. Osama was killed in pakistan. If you do not know truth or cant present it stop making films. Crime petrol series in India is better than this useless movie.
  • ndsan2007
  • 11 août 2019
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8/10

A Nutshell Review: Code Name: Geronimo

The killing of Osama Bin Laden after a decade long manhunt, surprised most people since it came quite out of the blue, and known only after the fact, in a military operation shrouded in secrecy that involved boots on ground, and a downed Black Hawk helicopter. And it's not without its own controversy as well, for what would be tantamount to an invasion of a supposed ally, the lack of photographic and video-graphic evidence to the mass public, and a quick burial at sea. So with the lack of facts, filmmakers now have the liberty to paint their own "What If"s, and come up with versions of a narrative of what could have been.

While waiting for Kathryn Bigelow's Zero Dark Thirty to hit the screens here, I suppose one could opt for this alternative film by John Stockwell, meant for television, for that quick synopsis on what to expect, and setting the baseline as well since its narrative encompassed the end to end series of events from years of surveillance and casing on the grounds in Pakistan, to the board room politicking amongst agencies and analysts, to the final execution of the operation that will appeal to action buffs. Not having an obscene budget meant creative use of resources to pass off the real things, from office rooms to real army equipment, but these were functional enough to allow the story to continue.

Code Name: Geronimo can be split into three different narrative threads, with the first set in Pakistan involving two CIA backed Pakistani operatives who are tasked to case a highly fortified abode, performing surveillance from across the street and reporting it back to Langley. Strict protocols are to be adhered to, and this arc is one of the highlights since it dealt with trust issues, corruption, and what I felt was the most delicate discussion on the fallout and aftermath once it's mission accomplished. The solemn discussion shared by the Pakistani agents with a doctor they had recruited, plays on this fear, and the importance of those who decide to stand up and be counted especially when knowing what lies beyond the horizon.

The other narrative thread deals with the politics behind the analysis provided, board room maneuvering, and the moments of deliberation over credibility of intel received. I am guessing that Zero Dark Thiry would have more of this, but despite its relative simpleness in design and delivery, it doesn't try to overload you with too much jargon, but allowing you to appreciate the mammoth tasks behind seemingly open and shut decisions. There's also a Jessica Chastain character equivalent here in Vivian (Kathleen Robertson), playing the analyst who has to convince her skeptics that their high value target is indeed who he is.

And lastly, the attempt to paint a picture behind those faceless grunts in Seal Team Six who executed the entire operation on the ground, putting life on the line as they force their way into a fortified compound. We get to see plenty of training in mock ups, and how the filmmakers try to provide some needless characterization and drama amongst these men, even that of infidelity thrown in for good measure to provide some adversary from within, and having its commander carry some emotional baggage stemming from 9/11. But for all intents, all these become meaningless, once they don their gear and form the highlight of that ground assault. Nobody knows exactly who these soldiers were, from since then we've got books written about their exploits, and now some films being made as well.

Everything's pretty basic for this modestly budgeted film meant for television, but it is no less gripping than any polished blockbuster, especially in its build up toward its inevitable crescendo. Everyone knows the outcome, but what was of value was the epilogue, which accounted for what had happened to those who had decided to help "the enemy" on home soil. Whether true or otherwise, what's compelling is the filmmakers decision to paint a somewhat negative picture on how those who were no longer useful, or have been milked dry, got discarded to a corner, whether to sink or swim was no longer anyone's business or interest. Zero Dark Thirty can't come soon enough.
  • DICK STEEL
  • 19 janv. 2013
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3/10

Awful, Just A Shallow TV Show Full of Commercials

With all the hype, I thought for certain this would be a strong 2 hours of television. Wrong. Little character development; less in depth behind the scenes; even the acting was bad. Without the actual footage of of September 11 and Pres. Obama, it would have been even worse. Then NatGeo filled the program with commercials and seemingly ran the same set of spots at each break. Just brutally bad. For contrast, go watch Showtime's Homeland. Indeed, this looked very much like a low budget, independent production filmed on a back-lot south of Los Angeles. I was truly looking for an engaging 'documentary-style' film. I am not quite sure what I saw tonight. And if you haven't seen it, don't. Go watch Swamp People or FashionPolice. I am sure they are better!
  • fpbrennan
  • 3 nov. 2012
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2/10

Oh brother! Just another campaign tool

Now that the dust of the recent presidential election has settled (and other information about the search for OBL has come to light), we can see this flick for what it really was--just a campaign tool for one side in the 2012 presidential campaign. Produced by Weinstein, one of the President's biggest boosters in the film industry. Lots of deeply serious and introspective Presidential commentary during the flick. But on numerous points we now know Weinstein simply fabricated as he went along.

The film DOES paint a flattering portrait of seal training and the Skype videos with loved ones at home were moving; that's the reason the movie gets two stars instead of just one.

Like the movie "JFK," this one does a disservice to history. Oh, well. These are interesting times we live in.
  • riredale-2
  • 27 févr. 2013
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1/10

Just EH

  • PartialMovieViewer
  • 20 juin 2013
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2/10

Thoughtless Docudrama

It in painfully obvious that no part of the movie is shot in Pakistan. There's not even an effort to depict the actual landscape, people, language, dress, or culture of the area. Imagine a foreign film about New York City that shows cars with Texas license plates, and people with a southern drawl. Mix this with low budget graphics, shallow characters, and thoughtless bang bang, and you have a contender for the worst movie of the year.

The seals in the movie are as real as in a video game. The actual mission of flying into OBL's compound, taking him out, and returning back to the base is filmed at high-school competence, and lacks suspense, drama and visuals that you would expect from a flick about this once-in-a-lifetime event. A total disaster.
  • moiznali
  • 9 nov. 2012
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Good Entertainment Even with the Lack of Drama

Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama bin Laden (2012)

*** (out of 4)

Made-for-TV docudrama taking a look at the Seal operation's twenty-two minute mission that led to the death of Osama bin Laden. The film starts off nearly a year earlier when the CIA comes across information of a possible hideout for the terrorist and then we follow the steps it took to take him down. SEAL TEAM SIX certainly isn't a masterpiece and there are all sorts of flaws in it but at the same time I think it gets the job done with a high entertainment factor. I think the film works best as pure entertainment because there's really a lack of drama or suspense that keeps it from being better. I'm not even certain how accurate everything is but this here doesn't matter too much because there's no question that the film grabs your attention right from the start and doesn't let it go. I think the best moments in the film are all the behind the scenes stuff where we get to see what was going on inside the CIA as they were trying to get the President to sign off on the operation. I enjoyed seeing this stuff as the CIA would have to discuss what proof they had that bin Laden was in this building as well as having to look at what would happen if they were wrong. The performances were all very good and one really couldn't ask for more. The flaws of the film include some very weak CGI effects at times as well as an annoying use of real photographs to try and build drama. Most of the photographs are of President Obama and having still frame photos in the movie just made the thing feel cheap and it certainly didn't add anything. We'll have to wait and see how the second, theatrical bin Laden movie will compare but while this one is flawed it's at least entertaining.
  • Michael_Elliott
  • 7 nov. 2012
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10/10

The real Zero Dark Thirty...

After seeing both films back to back, I loved Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama Bin Laden, much better. This film was a more factual account of what really happened over there. Zero Dark Thirty, left many facts out of it's film and I'm not sure if the director purposely left them out to try to create more drama and suspense or that during filming maybe those facts weren't available? Don't know, don't care. Anson, is great in this, so are the other characters. The writing and data gathering on this one are priceless. Hats off to the folks at National Geographic, you guys made a superb film! Most of the people I know that watched this film and Zero Dark Thirty back to back all agree that this one is better. Thank you for this film. A film created for the person that wants the real truth about what happened, not some b.s. political movie by a self-absorbed, hype-driven director.
  • Right-Wing-Man
  • 21 févr. 2013
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1/10

Campaign Ad for Obama

This film was released just before an election. Much material was inserted to credit Obama with the operation and make him out to be the hero. You already know the basic outline of the real story and the fictional aspects presented are not very interesting. The weak fictional plot line revolves around two members of the team squabbling. Is this how the best of the SEAL teams act. Highly unlikely.

Certain characters appear in an interview with an unknown interviewer. There is no explanation for the interviews. One interviewee mumbles and can barely be understood. Little of interest is presented in the interviews. They act as a kind of low production cost filler for a movie that would otherwise be too short. What happened to letting the characters tell their story though dialog and action?
  • trusteethree
  • 21 juin 2013
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