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11 settembre 1683

  • 2012
  • R
  • 1h 54min
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4,3/10
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11 settembre 1683 (2012)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueIn the summer of 1683, 300,000 warriors of the Ottoman Empire began the siege of Vienna. The fall of the city would have opened the way to conquer Europe. On September 11. was the main battl... Tout lireIn the summer of 1683, 300,000 warriors of the Ottoman Empire began the siege of Vienna. The fall of the city would have opened the way to conquer Europe. On September 11. was the main battle between the Polish cavalry and the Turks.In the summer of 1683, 300,000 warriors of the Ottoman Empire began the siege of Vienna. The fall of the city would have opened the way to conquer Europe. On September 11. was the main battle between the Polish cavalry and the Turks.

  • Réalisation
    • Renzo Martinelli
  • Scénario
    • Valerio Manfredi
    • Renzo Martinelli
    • Alessandro Leone
  • Casting principal
    • F. Murray Abraham
    • Andrea Iaia
    • Enrico Lo Verso
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    • Réalisation
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Scénario
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
    • Casting principal
      • F. Murray Abraham
      • Andrea Iaia
      • Enrico Lo Verso
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    • 8avis des critiques
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    F. Murray Abraham
    F. Murray Abraham
    • Marco D'Aviano
    Andrea Iaia
    Andrea Iaia
    • Giovanni Cristofori
    Enrico Lo Verso
    Enrico Lo Verso
    • Karà Mustafà
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    • King Jan III Sobieski
    Alicja Bachleda
    Alicja Bachleda
    • Duchess of Lorena
    • (as Alicja Bachleda Curus)
    Piotr Adamczyk
    Piotr Adamczyk
    • Leopoldo I
    Claire Bloom
    Claire Bloom
    • Rosa Cristofori
    Matteo Branciamore
    • Eugenio of Savoia
    Marius Chivu
    • Father Cosma
    Antonio Cupo
    Antonio Cupo
    • Duke of Lorena
    Giorgio Lupano
    • Count Stahremberg
    Federica Martinelli
    • Lena
    Gianni Musy
    • Carlo Cristofori
    Daniel Olbrychski
    Daniel Olbrychski
    • Katski
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
    • Leila
    • (as Isabella Orsini)
    Borys Szyc
    Borys Szyc
    • Sieniawski
    Yorgo Voyagis
    Yorgo Voyagis
    • Abu'l
    Hal Yamanouchi
    Hal Yamanouchi
    • Murad Giray
    • Réalisation
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Scénario
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
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    Kirpianuscus

    not great but...

    without special effects. without the ingredients of blockbuster. a film about hope and faith and an Europe front to a great danger more than a historical movie. because it is not exactly portrait of an episode from past but a remember. a film about change of a world. reflection about power and about ambition. maybe, the speeches of the characters are not always inspired. maybe, the siege from 1683 must have a most inspired adaptation. but it remains an useful film. as beginning search for the story of one of greatest events from the XVII century. for the discover the last centuries's source for Ottoman Empire. for admire the history not as a story but as a kind of mirror for present. because, the Vienna's siege , like many other great moments from the past, is not exactly one lesson. but a seed for our every day life.
    6CelluloidDog

    Epic falls below norm

    Really I would give a 5.5 since the ratings are 3.4 which is lower than it should. It's clear people want gory battles but this historical drama lacks that. Like some, I just saw it on netflix and that's where it belongs, quite an average film. Most epics are good films and few go wrong but this one falls short.

    Acting is average. F. Murray Abraham is overbearing as Marco D'Aviano. He just spends a bit too much time shouting. Did the real Marco D'Aviano shout? I doubt it since he was revered as a skill negotiator. Enrico Lo Verso plays Kara Mustafa which is fine since the real Mustafa was Albanian. A pleasant surprise appearance was Jerzy Skolimowski as Jan Sobieski, the King of Poland. He wrote the screenplay for Knife in the Water, a 1962 Polish gem by Roman Polanski. He also directed some unusual cult films like Moonlighting and Torrents of Spring. Personally I take a liking to his bizarre King, Queen, Knave and Adventures of Gerard (mostly due to Gina Lollobrigida and Claudia Cardinale). But yes, you get the point. Day of the Siege is an Italian-Polish production that falls into a sort of cult-like realm. A more religious cult-like realm.

    So complaints by modern standards: No blood, special effects do look like a war video game at times, the sky never seems to be real, dialogue is stiff and formal, acting is over the top or stiff except a few moments where Lo Verso and Skoliminowski shine. Direction is very average, nothing special and predictable. The low ratings may be due to expectations that this would be a gory film about the battle. Battle choreography falls short by today's standards. Polish nationals might be disappointed that King Jan Sobieski's appearances are limited. People are not going to cheer for a monk unless it's Sean Connery in The Name of the Rose. Some of the low ratings may be due to turn- off with a religious tone. Some don't like the references to September 11 and the concept of defending the faith. So some complain about historical inaccuracy.

    But actually, in researching this interesting siege of Vienna, the film could focus on King Jan Sobieski but Marco D'Aviano was a real key character. Perhaps he was made too zealous in the film with a weak script and direction - how could a monk win a battle? This part of the film was a bit fictional. But in reality Marco was a key diplomat who was a skilled negotiator in bringing the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire back together against the encroaching Ottomans. The real Marco had quite high standards and even several hundred captured Turks went to him to beg for mercy knowing his skills in helping others. But in terms of filmmaking, it's not that interesting and may involve deeper character development. Another person complained that Kara Mustafa prostrated before the Sultan and in Islam, one never prostrates unless before God. Actually that is incorrect, as it is traditional to prostrate before very high rank. And it is tradition that a failed Grand Vizier is executed by strangulation by a silk cloth. So some feel it makes the Ottomans look evil or inhuman. But on the other hand, the only family we see in the movie is Kara Mustafa's. Therefore he is a central figure who has a human touch.

    It is an average film but below average for an epic. It lacks the excitement that a bloodier epic might have, such as Braveheart or the Last Samurai. But it is far more accurate than people suggest especially compared to most epics.

    The strengths of the film was as some say, soundtrack was fairly strong, costume design was good. Just a bit too glorious and shallow. Like a nice piece of cake that looks good but a bit bland.
    5AttyTude0

    Make your own decision

    Well, I see that posters either loved this film, or hated it.

    It is more than obvious that those who hated it did so for political reasons. Pick any reason. The uniforms are not accurate. The history is all wrong (yeah, everybody is a history professor). It's racist (but you expected that would pop up, didn't you). It's only for Catholics (well, finally something for Catholics). The acting is bad (I've seen worse).

    Someone complained that F. Murray Abraham spends the whole film screaming. Er, no. Only in two scenes. In one he was addressing an entire army. And in another he was trying to make himself heard over the thunder of battle. May I politely remind our distinguished critic that there were no microphones in those days?

    It also looks like that the mention of the date of the event - Sept 11 - went down some tender throats like battery acid. Yeah, those historical coincidences are a (bleep). Haters of this film also wasted no time pointing out that critics panned the film (and we know that critics are infallible). Well, consider it from their perspective. These exalted critics must have remembered what happens when a certain religion is mentioned in an unfavorable light (Charlie Hebdo, anyone?). So maybe the critics panned the film more out of prudence than displeasure.

    Is the film perfect? No. Is is 100% accurate? I NEVER saw a 'historical' film that got the historical facts 100% right. And I've been around a good bit. But I enjoyed Day of the Siege.

    IAC, watch the film and make your own decision. A quaint concept, I know. But some of us still believe stick to it.
    7borismk-38942

    A decent film despite being understandably (but unfairly) disliked in modern times

    Most of the flack for this film probably comes from the fact that it portrays Christians as the good guys. People love to talk about the Crusades and condemn Christian history whilst events like the expansionist attacks of the Ottoman Empire are largely ignored.

    From an objective perspective the film could use some improvement, the CGI is fairly poor at points, some of the acting is over the top and I'm guessing the specific accuracy of events is probably questionable.

    That being said, I do feel the film accurately conveys the spirit of the times and the attitudes of the people who lived them. Abraham deserves a lot of credit for his performance of a largely forgotten (but highly significant) figure of European history, Marco D'Aviano. Of course it's unpopular nowadays to remember people whose faith largely led to positive outcomes, not just in defeating the enemy but also showing them mercy and compassion in victory.

    All in all, I wish there were more movies like it
    Vincentiu

    honest

    not about politic or military victory but about force of faith. not about Vienna but about the Church. a film like a honest confession. not great, not impressive, not original. only a story about few people, a danger and the only solution for resist against it. result - not a bad movie but a different one. and it could be a surprise because not the low budget is its sin. the real cause - the chosen public. it is not a documentary and far to have the purpose to become a blockbuster. only to present a fruit of deep faith. that is all. so, it is not right to criticize it in serious manner. only see it without the ordinaries expectations for a historical film. and, maybe, it could represent an useful image about a fundamental episode from Europe past .

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    • Gaffes
      The siege is presented as a battle between Catholic Christianity and Turkish Islam. In the real war there were Protestant, Eastern Orthodox and Muslim states and mercenaries (including a small number of Turks) supporting the Holy League and Christian states supporting the Turks. The Principality of Wallachia, an Orthodox Christian vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, secretly sabotaged the Turkish siege and was providing intelligence to Austria.
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      Marco D'Aviano: [Speaking to the council] Your Majesties, Excellencies, I am only a poor monk. I know nothing of strategies or plans of attack. But I do know that Vienna represents the survival of Christianity. I know that if you have faith, you will win. If you remain united, you will win. So if the King of Poland says he knows how to win this battle, let him explain it to us.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 12 octobre 2012 (Pologne)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Italie
      • Pologne
    • Site officiel
      • Official site (Japan)
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Day of the Siege: September Eleven 1683
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Royal Castle, Old Town, Sródmiescie, Varsovie, Mazovie, Pologne
    • Sociétés de production
      • Martinelli Film Company International
      • Agresywna Banda
      • RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana
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    • Budget
      • 12 000 000 € (estimé)
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 2 143 479 $US
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      1 heure 54 minutes
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