Vaincre ou mourir
- 2022
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- 1h 40min
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1793. Voilà trois ans que Charette, ancien officier de la Marine Royale, s'est retiré́ chez lui en Vendée. Dans le pays, la colère des paysans gronde : ils font appel au jeune retraité pour ... Tout lire1793. Voilà trois ans que Charette, ancien officier de la Marine Royale, s'est retiré́ chez lui en Vendée. Dans le pays, la colère des paysans gronde : ils font appel au jeune retraité pour prendre le commandement de la rébellion.1793. Voilà trois ans que Charette, ancien officier de la Marine Royale, s'est retiré́ chez lui en Vendée. Dans le pays, la colère des paysans gronde : ils font appel au jeune retraité pour prendre le commandement de la rébellion.
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I know I have used that before - though I reckon I do like Her Story - more of a pun! Speaking of which - no pun intended of course. I did not know of this man and the story the movie is telling us. Everyone knows about Napoleon and other people (though even with them I doubt many know all the details - movie knowledge aside), but if you are not French (and even then) you will get a "new" story here.
I quite like the setting (time period, clothing/costumes and so forth), the action ... and it is always nice to root for the "little man" (not Napoleon in this case - sorry not sorry). So if you care about history (and his story), you will enjoy this either way. But if you like costume movies in general and don't care much about that ... you still will have a good time ... well you know what I mean ... the inevitable end will come as with every movie (well not literally) ...
I quite like the setting (time period, clothing/costumes and so forth), the action ... and it is always nice to root for the "little man" (not Napoleon in this case - sorry not sorry). So if you care about history (and his story), you will enjoy this either way. But if you like costume movies in general and don't care much about that ... you still will have a good time ... well you know what I mean ... the inevitable end will come as with every movie (well not literally) ...
Some left-wing people would have us, French citizens, think that revolutionaries were saints and that French History began in 1789. This movie reminds us that all was not black and white, and that there were heroes, and bad people and good people, in both camps, royalists and catholics as well as revolutionaries.
I don't know how much of Charette's private history is known to historians so I would call this movie a biopic rather than a documentary. And this movie was first meant for television before making it to the screen, so maybe it will disappoint the cinema viewer. However, I didn't find it without merit and ambition compared to the usual french comedies and societal movies. And I should say that the viewers' rating in France goes far above the critics' rating and the movie was applauded when I went to see it.
So... give it a try and make your own opinion.
I don't know how much of Charette's private history is known to historians so I would call this movie a biopic rather than a documentary. And this movie was first meant for television before making it to the screen, so maybe it will disappoint the cinema viewer. However, I didn't find it without merit and ambition compared to the usual french comedies and societal movies. And I should say that the viewers' rating in France goes far above the critics' rating and the movie was applauded when I went to see it.
So... give it a try and make your own opinion.
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An amazing movie. In France the movie industry is hugely the results of a leftist propaganda resulting in really bad movies. Nobody really cares about the French cinema for several decades now, but here we go. Fantastic actors, true story, hidden to the French People for so many decades. It is joyful to finally get such a great moment of art. The entire French critics got insane when this movie was release and the entire press went 100% when for the public it was as a fantastic moment of real French grandeur. My 3 kids loved it, an occasion to revisit the bloody French history and the terrible propaganda we, French People, got sunken into from our childhood.
This film really looks stunning. In terms of art direction and realism, French films are superior to the plastic junk from Hollywood. However, if Vaincre ou Mourir had listened to one well-known American maxim: 'Show, don't tell', the film would have succeeded. Unfortunately, viewers are not allowed to experience history, we must listen to it and understand it.
The fact that at the beginning of the film a number of specialists start to indicate what is yet to come, does not bode well. We are then presented with a number of colorful characters. Unfortunately we are not allowed to get to know them, but they are explained and that is a killer for any drama.
Many films that tell an unexposed part of history have an enormous need for framing and interpretation. The result is a story that limps on two legs, in which facts are more important than drama. And let it be precisely drama that ensures that facts stick. There were probably too many correct or educational captains on the ship of this production. A good screenplay and a good director would have sufficed.
The fact that at the beginning of the film a number of specialists start to indicate what is yet to come, does not bode well. We are then presented with a number of colorful characters. Unfortunately we are not allowed to get to know them, but they are explained and that is a killer for any drama.
Many films that tell an unexposed part of history have an enormous need for framing and interpretation. The result is a story that limps on two legs, in which facts are more important than drama. And let it be precisely drama that ensures that facts stick. There were probably too many correct or educational captains on the ship of this production. A good screenplay and a good director would have sufficed.
French cinema tends to be the same theme over and over again. Here however it is a topic hardly ever mentioned and just for that it makes the film worth watching.
Now personally I found the first half of the film extremely hard to watch as we are shown the atrocities of the war, the barely armed peasants sent to be slaughtered by the 'hero' of the film. Then there is the counter attack where non fighters (elders, children and women) get slaughtered and we know it happened.
We mostly follow the side of the Vendeans at a time period called "the Terror" for how people in the same side would cut the heads off their former ally and now rivals, at a time revolutionaries were trying to fight most of Europe with under trained people through sheer numbers. Needless to say the resistance from the Vendeans was not appreciated and the 'solution' to it, as shown in the film, was brutal and merciless.
Be aware it is not a feel good film, it's about dark times and the film shows that well.
I strongly suggest people to watch the film to make their own opinions since many critics put it down for choosing a different topic or being done by a studio which is not vetted by established French studios.
Now personally I found the first half of the film extremely hard to watch as we are shown the atrocities of the war, the barely armed peasants sent to be slaughtered by the 'hero' of the film. Then there is the counter attack where non fighters (elders, children and women) get slaughtered and we know it happened.
We mostly follow the side of the Vendeans at a time period called "the Terror" for how people in the same side would cut the heads off their former ally and now rivals, at a time revolutionaries were trying to fight most of Europe with under trained people through sheer numbers. Needless to say the resistance from the Vendeans was not appreciated and the 'solution' to it, as shown in the film, was brutal and merciless.
Be aware it is not a feel good film, it's about dark times and the film shows that well.
I strongly suggest people to watch the film to make their own opinions since many critics put it down for choosing a different topic or being done by a studio which is not vetted by established French studios.
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Box-office
- Budget
- 3 500 000 € (estimé)
- Montant brut mondial
- 2 187 688 $US
- Durée
- 1h 40min(100 min)
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 2.39 : 1
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