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This Must Be the Place

  • 2011
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  • 1h 58min
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Sean Penn in This Must Be the Place (2011)
Cheyenne, a retired rock star living off his royalties in Dublin, returns to New York City to find the man responsible for a humiliation suffered by his recently deceased father during WWII.
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Cheyenne, une rock star à la retraite vivant de ses royalties à Dublin, retourne à New York pour rechercher l'homme ayant humilié son père récemment décédé pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale... Tout lireCheyenne, une rock star à la retraite vivant de ses royalties à Dublin, retourne à New York pour rechercher l'homme ayant humilié son père récemment décédé pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale.Cheyenne, une rock star à la retraite vivant de ses royalties à Dublin, retourne à New York pour rechercher l'homme ayant humilié son père récemment décédé pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale.

  • Réalisation
    • Paolo Sorrentino
  • Scénario
    • Paolo Sorrentino
    • Umberto Contarello
  • Casting principal
    • Sean Penn
    • Frances McDormand
    • Judd Hirsch
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,7/10
    38 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Paolo Sorrentino
    • Scénario
      • Paolo Sorrentino
      • Umberto Contarello
    • Casting principal
      • Sean Penn
      • Frances McDormand
      • Judd Hirsch
    • 103avis d'utilisateurs
    • 208avis des critiques
    • 61Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 20 victoires et 17 nominations au total

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    "Mick Jagger Sang with Me"
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    "Mick Jagger Sang with Me"

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    Sean Penn
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    • Cheyenne
    Frances McDormand
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    • Jane
    Judd Hirsch
    Judd Hirsch
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    Eve Hewson
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    Olwen Fouéré
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    Simon Delaney
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    Andrea Mellos
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    Sarab Kamoo
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    • (as Sara Kamoo)
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      • Paolo Sorrentino
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      • Paolo Sorrentino
      • Umberto Contarello
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    7secondtake

    Weird on purpose, and imperfect and overdone despite its deliberations

    This Must Be the Place (2011)

    Sean Penn tries very hard in this film, taking on a role of the worn out and disturbed rock star (Cheyenne) living in isolation. His character is weirdly ambiguous—and just plain weird—somewhere between a cross-dresser, a transvestite, and a myopic hedonist. He is something like "the idiot" of literature who seems completely out of touch but also has a wisdom and aloof perspective others do not.

    It sometimes works. The movie itself is filled with ambiguity, and not in an enchanting way. Since it does not charm by its aura and filmic intention (it has little of either), it should give us a better sense of what exactly is going on. Oh, you'll get the drift, and you'll pick up on the Cheyenne's regret and melancholy. And you might understand he hits the road in a bumbling search for some evil-doer geriatric Nazi (I'm serious) that no other person is better qualified to pursue.

    Well, any movie that pushes into its own sphere with some enthusiasm is worth watching, to me. I'm glad I did. But I can use my experience to warn a viewer that it's a personal calling here. Penn alone is reason to either hate or like the film, his overacting reminding me mostly that there are people who are really like this character who would have done much better. Instead we feel him acting all the time. It should be said that some of the other actors are forced to push their performances, too.

    One curious aspect to the film I loved was all the versions of the one song in the film, "Home" or "This Must Be the Place" by the Talking Heads (and performed by all kinds of people including David Byrne himself in a small, very tacked-on cameo). Some of the versions are so different you might not even catch that it's the same song again. Listen.

    So what's the point of all this angst and campy sadness? I think it's about the rediscovery of this Cheyenne's self. His real self, a person with normal qualities. He succeeds by breaking out of his self-imposed hermetic world and in a way it's a warm and almost terrific experience. For him and for the viewer. But for all its intentions it felt forced to me. There wasn't enough supporting material, not enough ambiance, and not enough character development (oddly enough, since it's all about Cheyenne's character). There is so much time spent on superficial aspects we never really get into the depths that might be here. Maybe.

    I want to think of this as a 10 star dream with a 4 star soul. That makes 7, I guess. But it feels less satisfying than that for me, and I'm thinking you'll know by now whether you might give this a tentative whirl.
    6dansview

    Boring but Reasonably Meaningful

    If you come up with a complicated and quirky plot, there is almost no way to avoid people accusing you of trying too hard to be "indie." The core of this plot is a good one, although it's hampered by throwing too many ingredients in the soup. Hence, like other reviewers, I too will accuse the makers of trying a bit too hard. But I appreciate the originality of the plot.

    I've noticed that most small films tend to focus on depressed or outsider type people. I'm guessing that's because the people who make them are that way. But it would be nice once in a while to see a small film about essentially happy people growing in some way, or overcoming an obstacle.

    If you took a bunch of drugs, you haven't worked in 20 years, you live in a dreary place, and you're going through a midlife crisis, you would move and talk slowly and perhaps softly. Also, if you were a cross dresser, you might speak with an effeminate voice. So i get all that. But the mumbling aspect was a bit much. Unless you want to interpret that a guy who made millions from his voice, is now crippled in the voice. The mumbling was my biggest complaint. Even if he had cranked it up a tiny notch, I would have been satisfied.

    I think the sex scene was put in there specifically to justify why a woman would stay with such a loser for so long. Make no mistake about it. This guy is a loser. His awareness of that fact is the main source of his depression.

    What I liked about the plot was the idea of needing a purpose or mission to get yourself out of a funk or grow up. But having his dad be American and orthodox Jewish is a shock to the system. There were no previous references to his even being American, and none about growing up as an orthodox Jew. Wouldn't you see some vestiges of Jewishness at his house, or in his mannerisms or conversation?

    As other reviewers mentioned, it was clear that he had no real interest in the Holocaust or his dad's history. He just felt remorse at not giving his father a chance. Couple that with needing a purpose and you have his mission.

    Most of the people he interacted with in small town America were not random. They were family members of the Nazi he was hunting or knew something about him. But we did get a little slice of American life in the process. Although here's a tip to non-American indie film enthusiasts. Not all Americans are quirky. Many just work, live, love, pray, volunteer, serve, and laugh.

    This guy was always about depression and regrets, but never about rage. So it's no surprise that he had no rage for the Nazi. Another person might have, because although the humiliation he caused his father was relatively mild, he was still involved with slaughter.

    I'm OK with the subplots about the woman with a missing son and the Gothic teen. It makes sense. The girl was the type he would have hung out with in his own teens and he was basically stuck at that stage of life. Meanwhile the woman's son apparently skipped town the way our main character had years ago.

    I love the Talking Heads song. So I certainly appreciate the idea of building a story around it. "Home, this must be the place." You could say that our protagonist was searching for a home in this world his whole life.
    10KexUK

    Surrender into it's reality

    I'm a DVD man.Films are my most important relaxation methodology. For me, the whole purpose of a film is to transport me into another reality, even a 'factually historic' film does this, for that reality was never subjectively mine. Occasionally a film comes along that is so incredible in it's ability to 'transform my reality' that it becomes embedded not only in my memory but leaves laser-like traces sparkling in my consciousness.

    This was such a film for me.

    No spoilers here, but some aspects of the photography are amazing,simply beyond surrealistic,more glowingly minimalistic in their utter magnificence. How the hell can you make a supermarket shopping trip into an adventure journey through a time-warped window of photographic beauty? Watch out for the car at the gas station scene. It's a visually structured scene that hit my eyes with astonishment.

    The acting is superb.Yet, that word seems so inadequate to describe Sean Penn's utterly mind-blowing performance. I had to keep reminding myself that this was Sean Penn and these continued reminders simply made his performance all the more brilliant.

    In the manner of an 'old Master',Paolo Sorrentino places layer after layer of subtle strokes to compose a mesmerizing work. He takes his time about it, as though each stroke of his brush must be precisely executed so that the whole may be that 'other reality' I seek in my film watching.

    If you will watch this then you must prepare yourself to surrender totally into ' it's reality'- I found it well worth the capitulation.
    5rlaine

    Great acting, not that great a movie

    I thought this would be a better movie. The premise is quite interesting and I usually like these artsy dramedies. This one on the other hand tries to be more artsy than it really is.

    At first I didn't like how Sean Penn portrayed Cheyenne, but later on in the movie I completely forgot that I was watching Mr. Penn. So I guess the performance is good, and maybe I just didn't find the character to be a very interesting or likable.

    This movie is slow, and I don't even mind slow movies. Hell I usually think the slower the better, but this just drags forever. The plot doesn't take off until half way thru and even then it feels like you've already watched this movie for hours.

    There's an insane amount of camera trickery, almost every scene uses some camera dolly or crane thing, even if it serves no purpose other than moving the camera around in an "imaginative way". It was really distracting and I didn't find the camera work that fun to look at.

    The script leaves a lot of stuff untold. There is talk about people who are seemingly important, but they are never explained who they are and while you have ideas, it's not something you'd like to spend any energy guessing. Some movies make these mind games fun, but here they're just annoying. I noticed myself thinking all the time if I had missed something, but reading at the forums here, I don't think I missed anything. This movie just doesn't inspire you to figure out those loose endings at all.

    In the end I gather I just don't like the directors way of making movies. The story is quite interesting, but the way it's told just wasn't my cup of tea.
    7lastliberal-853-253708

    I think a man who does that with his wife of 35 years like it's the first time...is not depressed.

    It's very difficult to get a handle on Sean Penn's aging rocker character. One thinks he has fried his brain. He speaks and acts slower than anyone I have ever seen. He looks the same as he did in the 80s, including makeup, but has lost interest in his music.

    Cheyenne (Penn) is married to Jane (Frances McDormand). They have been together for 35 years. Not only is this the opposite of what one would expect of a rock star, but she works as a firefighter. No, they are not broke, it's just what she does.

    The two of them are surrounded by some interesting characters in a film that moves at a snail's pace.

    You never really know where it is going, but at the end you realize that it was good for Cheyenne to get out of his world and grow up.

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    • Anecdotes
      The organ-like instrument that David Byrne plays for Cheyenne is a variation of Byrne's "house organ." Byrne created the organ in 2008 as part of an art installation project in New York City. Instead of playing musical notes, each key on the organ transmits a signal through a wire, which in turn "plays" the building: for example, motors vibrating a set of metal girders, hoses blowing air through the building's water pipes, or metal rods striking the radiator.
    • Gaffes
      Cheyenne refers to the band as "The Talking Heads". David Byrne and group went so far as to name an album "The Name of This Band is Talking Heads" to help people drop the "the".
    • Citations

      Rachel: No shit! Now I remember you. You sang with Mick Jagger once.

      Cheyenne: I know him. He's a good singer, I like the way he dances.

      Rachel: Listen your cheeseburger is a bit too well done. You don't mind do ya? Unfortunately, that's life!

      Cheyenne: You know what the problem is... Rachel?

      Rachel: What?

      Cheyenne: Without realizing it, we go from an age where we say: "My life will be that" to an age where we say: "That's life."

    • Versions alternatives
      The international version is approximately 7-minute shorter than the version screened at the Cannes Film Festival and released in Italy.
    • Connexions
      Featured in WatchMojo: Top 10 Sean Penn Performances (2013)
    • Bandes originales
      This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
      Written by David Byrne (as D. Byrne), Tina Weymouth (as T. Weymouth), Jerry Harrison (as J. Harrison), Chris Frantz (as C. Franz)

      Performed by David Byrne

      (c) Warner Bros. Music Inc. / Index Music Inc.

      Licensed by Warner Bros. Music Italy S.r.l.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 24 août 2011 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Italie
      • France
      • Irlande
    • Site officiel
      • Wikipedia
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Hébreu
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Un Lugar Maravilloso
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Dublin, County Dublin, Irlande
    • Sociétés de production
      • Indigo Film
      • Lucky Red
      • Medusa Film
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      • 25 000 000 € (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 143 979 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 7 754 $US
      • 4 nov. 2012
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 11 928 909 $US
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    • Durée
      • 1h 58min(118 min)
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      • Dolby Digital
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      • 2.35 : 1

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