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Guri Alfi, Liana Ayoun, and Gily Itskovitch in Black Space (2020)

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Black Space

51 commentaires
6/10

No One to Root For

An entire school of dirty, smelly, drunken, stoned, cynical and amoral teens? Even the one kid with a respectable demeanor is a drug dealer and a forgery expert. Add in administrators who bury their heads in the sand, and a morose detective with a grudge that we never even get the full back story on.

Having said all that, I did like the concept of a middle aged detective assigned to a case at his old high school, and incorporating a handicap issue.

The plot was too hard and vague for me to follow. I watched it all and I still don't fully understand who did it and why. That's not a good sign.

The description mentions a small town, but it's clearly not. That is a big mistake. This is an urban setting that is obviously in a fairly upscale, secular area of Greater Tel Aviv. The urban aspect is part of what alienates the kids. Because there is no small town vibe.

By not including any normal kids, you get the sense that the entire student body is disaffected. That is not realistic.

Nevertheless, the actors played their parts convincingly, and our lead's intensity mixed with care was intriguing.
  • dansview
  • 31 mai 2021
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7/10

Doesn't quite pull it off...

  • canuckteach
  • 28 juil. 2021
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6/10

Watching it with subtitles

  • shaun-35238
  • 12 août 2021
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7/10

A solid Israeli crime drama

This Israeli drama opens as a ceremony is taking place in a high school; it is interrupted when three or four people wearing unicorn masks start shooting at the students. Four are killed. The building is quickly locked down and three Palestinian workers are promptly arrested... however there is no sign of the weapons or masks and Rami Davidi, the policeman leading the investigation is not convinced of their guilt. He believes the killers are amongst the students. As the investigation progresses we learn more about the various students leading to suspects emerging. We also learn about our protagonist; notably how he lost an eye while he was a student at the same school.

I found this to be a gripping series. The characters are interesting and the identity of the killers isn't too obvious. Davidi is good lead characters, Guri Alfi does an impressive job in the role, his backstory adds to his character without distracting from the main story. The rest of the cast are pretty solid too. The ending is perhaps a little melodramatic but not overly so. It must also be said that the student characters are mostly fairly unsympathetic; even those we know to be innocent. Overall this is a good, tense series and would recommend it despite some faults.

These comments are based on watching the series in Hebrew with English subtitles.
  • Tweekums
  • 14 juin 2021
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It was interesting

You want to figure out who did it and why, but it was kind of hard to differentiate actors sometimes because the girls looked alike and the names. Once the detective figured out it was students we really stayed with it because ...who were the four and why????? The dubbing was a pain because they were English speaking accents instead of Israeli so we had to keep rewinding to understand who said what. When we finally get to the end and see who did it, it was a bummer, because the reasoning was not sound and so it seemed like they did it for a stupid reason, ughhh came undone for us. But it was good enough for us to stay up late to keep watching haha so there you go!
  • WeWatchMovies
  • 29 mai 2021
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7/10

A Welcome Israeli Thriller

Slow burn which is typical of police procedurals but atypical in the sense that the story delves into something fresh: what happens to high school seniors in the aftermath of a school shooting that leaves some of them dead.

The viewer is tempted to fastforward but hesitates because he/she could miss something important in the investigation by Rami Davidi (Guri Alfi) and Morag Shmuel (Reut Alush).

The pace picks up considerably in the last 2 episodes when the young killers are revealed.

The writers spice up the story by developing Rami's personal story: a skillful detective, who's having a hard time adjusting to a glass eye, with his own issues on the school where the shooting takes place and on being a would-be father and neglectful husband.

The ending is a tad melodramatic and a bit of a surprise. But I suppose the writers had to end it the way it did because the subjects of the story are simply 12th graders (who are about to begin their compulsory military training) and not hardened criminals. And the viewer could empathize (although it can never be condoned) with the motives of the young killers.

Overall, it's an entertaining series that provides insights into the thinking of young Israelis.

The senior actors gave solid performances. The young ones didn't disappoint either. Their portrayal was heartfelt. Special mention to Liana Ayun ( Libby), Yoav Rotman (Itamar), and Noam Karmel (Eram Sagi).
  • albertval-69560
  • 31 mai 2021
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10/10

Started well

I am into the 3rd episode and this series looks on the money. BGM is excellent and the stories are stitched together very well.

I am surprised that I am writing the first review here. The lead investigator is a fair character who is not blindly in favor of local students or blindly against immigrant workers and that makes it easier for everyone to see without prejudice. Don't doubt it, go ahead and watch it.
  • johnphilips-be
  • 27 mai 2021
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6/10

Good idea but nothing special

Good story-idea but scenario is not coherent.

Actors not bad but not very good to. I watch it but overall is mediocre.

There is other very good Israeli series in Netflix.
  • marialazaridou-72499
  • 13 janv. 2022
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10/10

Excellent so far

I'm on the 4th episode and it is excellent so far. Intriguing, well fleshed out characters. I really want to know who did this and why, binging it so far.

I am using the English subtitles as I don't really like voice overs, they ruin everything. You forget it's there after a few minutes in.

This show is not for kids.
  • hannahcsdepot
  • 28 mai 2021
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6/10

Very complicated - read after you finish

  • koofasa
  • 22 juin 2021
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5/10

Unbelievability in this High School Drama

  • ablack90
  • 31 mai 2021
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8/10

A Unique story

  • jlwalker19-1
  • 6 juin 2021
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7/10

High school characters?

Surely not. These kids looked to be late twenties. They were an interesting lot but absolutely foreign to my remembrance of high school. It was not easy to find anyone to admire in this thing, including, and especially, the chief cop. Pretty stupid, definitely rogue on occasion, yet I found season one interesting in its depiction of Israeli life/culture. So regardless plot flaws and the lack of anyone approaching a heroic character, I would mildly recommend this.
  • gnatsong
  • 4 juin 2021
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2/10

Awful

  • taniaburstin
  • 5 juin 2021
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6/10

Take on a tough subject becomes convoluted

I would have hoped a drama about a school shooting would be tighter. This series has some good moments but really goes all over the place, with unrealistic 'twists' and plot points. When it was finished I was tired of it, but not satisfied. Question (not a spoiler): can someone with one eye become a active duty cop in Israel?
  • info-80807
  • 27 nov. 2021
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7/10

decent watching

Sure this is not the greatest crime thriller ever created but it is a very respectable and enjoyable series . As with most series of this type the plot is pretty far fetched and has gaping holes in it but suspend your disbelief and cynicism .Instead enjoy the character creation particularly with the lead the special investigations cop Rami Davidi beautifully acted by Guri Alfi and his colleagues .Ruso and Morag .Sure the kids were almost uniformly selfish,stupid,narcissistic,nasty etc etc but heh .i thought thats what kids were like today. There is also a nice entry portrait of a section of society of Israel which is not somewhere i knew much about .Of and for goodness sake watch in hebrew with subtitles .Who on earth thinks dubbed voices is a good way to watch ?
  • saintgermain-83925
  • 28 juin 2021
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10/10

Fantastic

I can't wait for season 2 .Everything is just great. Very entertaining and there is a great potential in the story. One more israeli serie you just can't get enough!
  • fifike
  • 30 mai 2021
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6/10

Not bad, if you look past the plot holes

  • eleester
  • 4 févr. 2022
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8/10

Excellent

I don't usually care for voiced over shows but this one is very well done. It moves along pretty well with some slow spots and a bit too much 2nd plot regarding Davidi and his wife.

One can become mixed up with the characters Libi and Shir because they look similar and the voice actors sound the same.

Fortunately the concept behind the creation of the crime guns does not work as shown with IMI Jerichos being used as props. Be thankful for that.
  • rchevalier-37303
  • 7 juin 2021
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6/10

Could have been better if ...

... somebody paid more attention to couple of details. I could perhaps live with all those teenagers who looked much older than they should have. Their faces were pretty much melting together for me as well since they all looked like crooks, addicts, and I missed one person that would be "likeable". But the core of the story are kids 3D printing guns. Wtf? A gun is a very precise set of mostly metal components and seeing a "kid" printing out two pieces cut diagonally, than inserting one round only to start shooting like Rambo with fully functional handgun. Maybe I am too harsh as guns are my hobby but c'mon guys, you did Fauda...
  • czechoslovakgunstories
  • 9 août 2022
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4/10

Started off well and then it started sinking

  • gban-18627
  • 10 juin 2021
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10/10

Excellent series

Script, acting, direction - are all excellent. I came in with very low expectations and this show blew me away. Completely addicted. I am pretty sure this will be sold off and reproduced in the US, as the storyline is more appropriate for the American/European audience. The plot would probably never happen in Israel but can (and has...) occur in the US/Europe.
  • maxi215
  • 16 nov. 2021
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Need your help !

I'm looking for the song played two times in episode 2 (min 29:50 ) and episode 3 ( min 17:00 ). Plz help.
  • laouinianis
  • 30 mai 2021
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6/10

Some good, some bad

There's plenty of great design, interesting gritty lead detective, but also tons of stupidity. The detective gets kicked off the case, but just sticks around. Then he's kicked off the force, but just sticks around. In fact, his boss knows he's a loose canon but still takes orders from him. So best to just ignore the flaws.
  • henry_reynolds
  • 4 juin 2021
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2/10

Could present a cautionary seminar for screenwriters

The bare fact that a character is damaged doesn't make him or her interesting. The actor, for instance, needs to have more than one expression - in this case, that of having just swallowed something really sour, or having smelled something really rank.

And his character has to have something to admire, to like, to relate to. He can't simply use and abuse everyone in his life who tries to help him, who needs him, who counts on him. He can't...oh, say, father a child, and continually neglect and mistreat its mother, and blame her for conceiving.

And the surrounding characters have to be in some way credible. They can't simply endure this endless use and abuse and come back for more. They need credibility, and they too need to display something admirable and likable and three-dimensional.

And the plot. If there are eight episodes, it should compellingly fill the eight episodes. Not be thin enough to have rattled around aimlessly in just one.

This series fails on all counts. Sorry I wasted the time.
  • BibChr
  • 7 juin 2021
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