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Les 3 royaumes - Partie 2

Titre original : Chi bi: Jue zhan tian xia
  • 2009
  • 2h 22min
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Takeshi Kaneshiro, Tony Leung Chiu-wai, and Fengyi Zhang in Les 3 royaumes - Partie 2 (2009)
ActionAventureDrameGuerreL'histoireÉpopée de guerre

Furieux d'apprendre que les deux royaumes rivaux se sont alliés, Cao Cao envoie une force colossale pour les écraser.Furieux d'apprendre que les deux royaumes rivaux se sont alliés, Cao Cao envoie une force colossale pour les écraser.Furieux d'apprendre que les deux royaumes rivaux se sont alliés, Cao Cao envoie une force colossale pour les écraser.

  • Réalisation
    • John Woo
  • Scénario
    • John Woo
    • Khan Chan
    • Cheng Kuo
  • Casting principal
    • Tony Leung Chiu-wai
    • Takeshi Kaneshiro
    • Fengyi Zhang
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,5/10
    26 k
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    • Réalisation
      • John Woo
    • Scénario
      • John Woo
      • Khan Chan
      • Cheng Kuo
    • Casting principal
      • Tony Leung Chiu-wai
      • Takeshi Kaneshiro
      • Fengyi Zhang
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  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    • Récompenses
      • 8 victoires et 20 nominations au total

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    Tony Leung Chiu-wai
    Tony Leung Chiu-wai
    • Zhou Yu
    • (as Tony Chiu Wai Leung)
    Takeshi Kaneshiro
    Takeshi Kaneshiro
    • Zhuge Liang
    Fengyi Zhang
    Fengyi Zhang
    • Cao Cao
    Chang Chen
    Chang Chen
    • Sun Quan
    Wei Zhao
    Wei Zhao
    • Sun Shangxiang
    Jun Hu
    Jun Hu
    • Zhao Yun
    Chi-Ling Lin
    Chi-Ling Lin
    • Xiao Qiao
    Shidô Nakamura
    Shidô Nakamura
    • Gan Xing
    Yong You
    • Liu Bei
    Baasanjav Mijid
    • Guan Yu
    Yong Hou
    • Lu Su
    Chang Hai Chen
    • Qin Seng
    Yu Gui Cui
    • Xu Chu
    Nicole Dionne
    Nicole Dionne
    • Xiao Qiao
    • (voix)
    Xiang Rui Fu
    • Baby Dou
    Chao Guo
    • Yue Jin
    Feng He
    • Man Tun
    Yin He
    Yin He
    • Lady Mi
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      • John Woo
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      • John Woo
      • Khan Chan
      • Cheng Kuo
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    9ebiros2

    The Greatest Chinese Epic

    The battle of the Red Cliff, which is the climax from the first half of "Romance of the Three Kingdom" by Luo Guanzhong is perhaps the most spectacular war story in all of Asia. Until the outbreak of Russo-Japanese war, it certainly was one of the biggest battle of the region, and perhaps the biggest in terms of numbers of people involved.

    Director John Woo assembled an international talent of actors to create this one of a kind epic movie. He's described it as 50% fictional, but he must have put lot of thoughts into the fiction part, because all the filling that he puts in works to enhance the story, and brings excitement to each scene.

    The story is somewhat long, and for ones who are not familiar with the historic saga of this battle, may feel that it's overly protracted, but the movie was geared mainly for the Chinese audience (China bankrolled the film), who are intimately familiar with the characters described in this story. I'm sure many went to the theaters to see their favorite heroes come to life.

    The casting is done exceptionally well, as they convey the authority of the characters they are playing. Clever casting from different countries around Asia (China, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan) ensured that people of those countries will not see it as foreign film, but one of their own.

    This certainly is the best warrior based movie to come out of China, and even for the jaded director John Woo, the greatest masterpiece. Superbly crafted movie, and equally superb story telling, captures all the highlights of the Battle of the Red Cliff.

    Part 1 was good, but this blows the doors off of Part 1.

    One of the greatest movie to come out of Asia.
    7mmushrm

    Exciting

    Red Cliff 2 is a good action pic. Even though we already know the result the movie still manages to keep it exciting and suspenseful. Granted artistic license were probably taken with the story but who cares, its a movie not a historical documentary.

    That being said there were a few parts of the movie that defied belief. The shu princess as a spy and how easily she manages to accomplish her mission. The final battle was also some what disappointing, too much CG explosions.

    But the biggest thing for me is ........... its NOT a propaganda movie. Thank you John Woo for that. I was expecting a "we must stand together and sacrifices must be made for the country to be united and prosperous" message that we have been getting from most of the Chinese "historical" epics. There wasn't any :) Good movie, good visuals, good acting.
    7eva-verstraelen

    impressing battle scenes, a feast for the eye

    Although historically far away from the facts, this movie is a feast for the eye with impressive battle scenes, great costumes, good acting and a few really good one-liners ! Not your typical martial arts movie, but a story worthwhile watching ! I would recommend to watch this on the big screen in a theater with good sound, otherwise a lot of the movie will get lost. Try to read some of the history that the movie is based upon, it will enable you to understand the plot quite a bit better. Some excellent lessons in ancient warfare are to be learned here. Although the end is more or less predictable, I enjoyed every minute of the movie.
    8andydreamseeker

    The Point of War - A Review of Red Cliff II

    Red Cliff, the film by John Woo based on the epic battle of Romance of the Three Kingdoms is divided into two parts. While the first was engaging in its depiction of such historical characters in Cao Cao, Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu, the second is all about war itself, which can be a little daunting to some. But that is just how war is.

    You see, war is not about a spontaneous fight between two opposing parties. It has nothing to do with sword wielding 'cling clang' or battle cries and fistfights. The distinction has to be made since war is by far a larger context than a battle, although war itself consists many. In Red Cliff II we will see what is at play when war is raged. It cannot be pretty can it? But it can as this is the romanticized version of history and on screen John Woo made it even prettier.

    The cast is strong with Tony Leung Chiu-wai as viceroy Zhou Yu, Takeshi Kaneshiro as adviser Zhuge Liang and Zhang Fengyi as Cao Cao, to name just a few. The list is long. A good cast will more often than not up the aesthetical appeal to a movie. For the female audience, Tony Leung charms with his manly portrayal of Zhou Yu, and Takeshi Kaneshiro is always a pleasure to watch as he liven every scene with wit and humor. For the male audience, it is the childlike yet seriousness of Zhao Wei as Sun Shangxiang, and Lin Chi-ling's poise and compassion as Xiao Qiao that allures.

    But can war really be pretty? If you think that killing each other is a good way to express beauty then perhaps you can be on the same page as the tyranny Cao Cao. In part 1, where the emphasis of battle was on land with a very elaborate tactic devised by Zhuge Liang, here in part 2 we witness the battle at sea, physically and psychologically.

    Back to the main topic of war, it is crucial that victory must be sorted as numerous lives are heavily at stake, whether or not these lives are valued or not, be they as added numbers or as friends. In war the emphasis is on strategies and tactics to win. And on strategies and tactics, I guess we no doubt have to consult Sun Tzu's The Art of War and also take reference to The 36 Stratagems.

    I can refer that the epic battle of Red Cliff has two points that stood out when referenced to The Art of War and that is The Attack By Fire and The Use Of Spies.

    Recorded in the 36 stratagems is the use of the enemy's own spy to sow discord in the enemy's camp by Zhou Yu. This famous move is of correlation to The Art of War where it is stated as having converted spies, getting hold of the enemy's spies and using them for our own purposes. In war all can be done, there can be no holds barred because any weakness can be exploited by the enemy. Zhou Yu can be said to have brilliantly disposed off of Cao Cao's main strategic threat because Cao Cao slain both his most dependable generals who are most versed in sea battles.

    When 50,000 has to fight 200,000, who could blame Zhou Yu for such tactics, especially when Cao Cao first provoked by sending dead soldiers across to Zhou Yu's side on wooden rafts, knowing that disease spread through this mean can greatly weaken his enemy.

    The other account decisive of the battle of Red Cliff is the Chain Strategem, although modified by John Woo in its depiction, with the key in Lin Chi-ling's character, Xiao Qiao.

    It is interesting to sit through 141 minutes witnessing a romanticized version of John Woo's Red Cliff. Personally I didn't feel that it was long, however to some who wanted to see a Lord of the Ring's type battle on screen could be disappointed.

    Sun Tzu's The Art of War states that the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple before the war is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but a few calculations before hand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.

    The point of war however is that in war everybody loses. This should be what John Woo's Red Cliff is trying to tell us. I agree wholeheartedly with water in my eyes.
    7i_have_a_m16

    Epic Turned into an Average Hollywood Flick...

    First of all, the cinematic in both Chi Bi I and II are amazing. Colors and sceneries are stunning. Battle scenes from the ships burning to blood spilling off of the cold steel of Zhao Yun's lance are unprecedented in Chinese films. Also, the computer graphics in the movie is a big step up from Chen Kaige's Wu Ji (The Promise 2005).

    Other than the visual component of the movie, everything else is unfortunately a failure. I have been been anticipating the movies since late 2007. There had been a trend of Chinese movies trying to mimic Hollywood and impress westerners. I was hoping that Chi Bi would turn out to be an eastern epic of its own since it is based on one of the greatest battles within 4500 years of Chinese history. Yet after being very unsatisfied with the first movie, Chi Bi II: Jue Zhan Tian Xia was even more disappointing. Here are 4 reasons why it was a failure:

    1)Characters: Other than Zhuge and Zhou Yu who were depicted in details, most other characters were very one-dimensional. For example, Cao Cao was portrayed as an arrogant, ambitious, and brutal man who makes his own decisions. In the movie, he became the all powerful villain that everyone feared. However, Cao Cao in the story was supposed to be very intelligent, benevolent at times and Charismatic, with many brilliant advisors he often took suggestions from. Not only did Cao Cao give me the impression of Xerxes in 300, it erased other sides of his personalities which made him interesting. Furthermore, John Woo failed to portray Liu Bei as a powerful man who would rise to be the ruler of one of the three kingdoms. In Chi Bi II, he delivered the impression of man who feared death who even had trouble inspiring his own men.

    2)Hasty Modification of the Plot: In order to fit most of the key events leading up to the battle within a series of two films, many events were simplified or re-written. For example, Pang Tong - one of the most intelligent characters in the original book was cut out from movie. Instead of his phony surrender to Cao Cao and proposing the method of linking the ships together, it was simplified to a short dialog between Admiral Cai informing Cao Cao of his decision to link the ships. Also, Zhou Yu punishing his general Huang Gai with one hundred back lashes to deceive Cao Cao for the reason of Huang Gai's surrender was modified into Xiao Qiao's (Zhou Yu's Wife) decision of seducing Cao Cao to stall time. Furthermore, themes with Zhuge "borrowing the wind", Cao Cao's escape in Hua Rong Dao were reduced to a prolonged battle scene. With so many events holding great significance which contributes to the ultimate miracle at Chi Bi cut out, the plot of the movie became very predictable, unimpressive, and even confusing.

    3)Very One Sided, Zhou Yu in Super Hero Mode: Zhou Yu was supposed to be the mastermind commander behind Sun Quan's army, but with average ability to combat. Yet, in the movie, Zhou Yu was chopping away in tens and thousands of soldiers like Achilles to save his wife. In fact, it was more like a gang of super heroes (Liu, Guan, Zhang, Zhao, Sun)unstoppable against Cao Cao's army. Ironically, none of them actually fought at Chi Bi, it was fought by their generals who were never mentioned. In the original story, Cao Cao also brought with him his best generals (Xiahou Yuan, Zhang Liao, Xu Chu, Xu Huang, Zhang He...etc) who were intelligent and were extremely skilled warriors. Neither were they mentioned. It made the battle seem less dramatic because Cao Cao's men were almost like obsoletes. Cao Cao's generals were portrayed as clueless cowards who hid behind the fences.

    4) Misleading Scenes and Redundancy: John Woo put his main focus on the characters of Zhou and Zhuge portraying their friendship and intelligence, which totally missed the point of the intricacy of their alliance. Zhou was constantly jealous of Zhuge's intelligence, and was trying to find every reason to kill him. In fear that Zhou Yu would prevent Liu Bei from becoming a power, Zhuge was also working to protect his master Liu. John Woo's attempt to expand on Zhuge's character with the scene of him delivering a baby horse in the first movie was totally unnecessary, in fact it was absurd. As if there is no one else who knew how to deliver baby horses within the entire army.

    Chi Bi Zhi Zhan (Battle of Chi Bi) was between Cao Cao's army of close to one million against 50,000 combined forces of Liu and Sun. The victory was supposed to be a miracle. It was the combination of strategies, weather, geography, from intricate planning. Yet John Woo made it a two men show of Zhuge and Zhou. The over simplification was ultimately resulted in disappointment. It leaves the wrong impression on those who does not know about the story. Overall, Chi Bi had good material to work with, but ended in failure.

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    • Anecdotes
      A form of Wilhem scream can be heard when the first Zhou Yu's fire ship attacked Cao Cao's navy during the final battle. The scream was used when the on fire straw struck the first navy soldier.
    • Gaffes
      When Pit first takes an arrow after learning that Sun Shangxiang was Piggy, the arrow is clearly in the middle of the second layer of his armor, yet on the next shot, the arrow is now in the top layer of the armor.
    • Connexions
      Follows Les 3 royaumes (2008)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 8 janvier 2009 (Chine)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Chine
      • Hong Kong
      • Japon
      • Taïwan
      • Corée du Sud
      • États-Unis
    • Sites officiels
      • Official site (China)
      • Official site (Hong Kong)
    • Langue
      • Mandarin
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Les trois royaumes - Partie 2
    • Sociétés de production
      • Beijing Film Studio
      • China Film Group Corporation (CFGC)
      • Lion Rock Productions
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      • 80 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 120 432 178 $US
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      • 2h 22min(142 min)
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      • Dolby Digital
    • Rapport de forme
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