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Crazy, Not Insane (2020)

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Crazy, Not Insane

31 commentaires
8/10

Not perfect, but definitely interesting

Like many of the other reviewers, I sense the Dr. has blinders on. We are shown only those murderers who tend to support her assumption of multiple personality. Yes, it would be nice to have seen some critical analysis, but this was a documentary, not a double-blind experiment. One should expect to see primarily one view. If you're like me, you can understand that, and be impressed by the access she had to some seriously crazy (insane? evil?) people.
  • billsoccer
  • 17 déc. 2020
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6/10

Enjoyable but biased

  • Klizbet4639
  • 7 déc. 2020
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6/10

Assessing the life and works of psychiatrist Dorothy Lewis

"Crazy, Not Insane" (2020 release; 117 min.) is a documentary that takes a closer look at the life and works of noted psychiatrist Dorothy Lewis. As the film opens, she explains why she became interested in examining serial killers: "It's like a chance to interview Hitler". Later on she ponders: "Why don't I murder? why don't you murder?" We then go back in time, as Lewis, upon graduating from the Yale School of Medicine, by happenstance becomes involved with juvenile delinquents, and makes a startling discovery that shows a physical difference in the brains of homicidal vs. non-homicidal delinquents... At this point we are 10 min. into the movie.

Couple of comments: this is the latest film from long-time documentarian Alex Gibney, who just recently released the excellent "Agents of Chaos", and whose prior work also includes 2013's "The Armstrong Lie" and 2015's "Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief", among many others. Here he takes a closer look at the (for some: groundbreaking, for others: controversial) work by Dorothy Lewis in the filed of understanding what makes serial killers do what they do. The documentary takes a good half hour to really get going, but after that, we are knee-deep into the core issue: do you accept/believe in the concept of multiple personality disorder, also known as dissociative identity disorder, or not? There are plenty of video clips from Lewis' work in the late 80s-early 90s when Lewis came to the forefront of this issue. It makes for at times fascinating viewing, and while it is pretty clear where Gibney stands in all of this, he gives plenty of space to both sides of the argument. I must say that, given Gibney's considerable reputation as one of the premier documentarians of this generation, I had expected something more, and that this does not rank among his very best work. Not that I think that "Crazy, Not Insane" is "bad" or anything. It's just not a heavyweight like some of his best documentaries.

"Crazy, Not Insane" was scheduled to premier at this year's SXSW festival in March. Then a little thing call COVID-19 changed the world as we know it (SXSW was canceled). The movie finally premiered at this year's Venice Film Festival in September, and started showing on HBO earlier this week. It is now available on HBO On Demand and other streaming services. If you are a fan of Alex Gibney's work or simply are interested in catching a true crime-reminding documentary, I'd readily suggest you check this out on VOD, or eventually on DVD/Blu-ray, and draw your own conclusion.
  • paul-allaer
  • 18 nov. 2020
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6/10

Premise is flawed

  • fqarabtj
  • 20 nov. 2020
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6/10

Interesting but biased, academia vs reality

It's easy to start falling down the rabbit hole of whatever your life work is. I think Dorothy bridged some huge gaps in mental health and how that affects some people. Like the film said, killers are made, not born. However, to be in favor of halting death penalty cases so one can be researched (or do the researching) is very wrong. I feel this film focused on the humanity of the killer and ignored the victims. That's fine if you're doing research to understand the mind of a killer, but to want to take on the ethics of capital punishment goes too far. MANY people have really messed up childhoods and anyone reading this has experienced that or knows someone who did. They don't all start killing (and that's addressed in this film). But the death penalty isn't only about ridding humanity of a threat or to even be a deterrent for others. It's about getting justice for the victim(s) and the family(s) of the victim(s). It would be nice if life was free of horrible, terrible things like rape, murder, torture etc. Unfortunately, that's just a part of human nature that will never go away. Doing research and attempting to understand all facets of the human brain is fantastic - the more we know the better. However, the death penalty should be in place in EVERY STATE and used only for the worst of society who's crimes have been proved 100% - there's ZERO chance that a mistake has been made. Society needs that. To know that there is a punishment to fit the crime.
  • akurschybee
  • 7 déc. 2020
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8/10

Gibney Returns To Magnificent Form!

  • helenahandbasket-93734
  • 15 nov. 2020
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6/10

Interesting Topic but Gets Repetitive

The topic is quite interesting, but about halfway through, I felt like it was getting repetitive. The same thing was being said in interview, just slightly different wording.
  • mycannonball
  • 3 nov. 2021
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9/10

the ironlady with a soft heart

On the subject dissosiative personality disorder, or the scapegoat to every ''eye for an eye''-fanaticand criminal court systen back in the medeval ages of 1980's and 1990's usa. beloved and hatred for her simple claim that noone is born evil, and that there are always an environmental or medical disorder behind every crime, the worse a crime, the more damaged the perputrator are.having an ethical code that says if your insane you cannot be punished to death by excecution, and that is a roaring cry that should be heard among the medical and justice superiors in every criminal court anywhere.

its a docu that can make the viewer feel sick, and the mentaly instable turn unstable. because the case descriptions and lots of the material in the cases from real life are so grotesque, graphic and violent in its nature. so beware and behold, its an interesting ride, but can be a bold swallow to take.the grumpy old man recommends
  • ops-52535
  • 18 nov. 2020
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6/10

Too looong

  • juan_moran
  • 15 mars 2021
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4/10

Too much hokum

Dr. Lewis likely has interviewed more serial killers than anyone else on the planet, but it is doubtful whether all that talk has produced any useful research on the subject. Her seeming determination to discover multiple personalities in every serial killer she interviews damages her credibility and exposes her stunning gullibility.
  • dneher
  • 30 nov. 2020
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10/10

Amazing woman who has done incredible work in this difficult area

Exceptional film looking at a woefully neglected area i.e the effect of extreme trauma on a child and in certain cases the development of a Multiple Personality Disorder in those that become killers as adults. I love Dorothy Lewis. She is full of such wisdom, knowledge and understanding into the damage that trauma does to children and adults and therefore society.
  • samanthambushby
  • 12 sept. 2021
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4/10

Doesn't present as scientifically objective

Super interesting topic. Not saying her work isn't valid, but how it's presented is one-sided. Knowing it is a highly divisive area of psychology, no scrutinizing opposing views are explored. It's difficult to take the content as unbiased - even if they're on to something. I didn't get anything out of it. The doctor seems like a sweet lady and I do appreciate her humanitarian approach.
  • annamlee-81577
  • 20 nov. 2020
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10/10

Very sad

Very sad how the society in USA failed so many times to acknowledge the bipolar person's disorder as a psychiatric illness and instead of that went on killing rampage of those individuals. Crimes they did were horrible, but the punishment was even worse, since the system knew what is happening, but they sure did not.
  • ozrenk
  • 27 nov. 2020
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3/10

A train wreck of confirmation biases and manipulators leading pure academics by the nose

I think most reasonably intelligent people realize that some of the most sadistic, unempathetic, sociopathic criminals in our midst come from awful backgrounds, dysfunctional families, abuse, and trauma. The credibility of this program's assertions quickly ends there.

The program proceeds to document two academic psychotherapists being led around by the nose by some of the most manipulative personalities known, psychopathic sexual sadists and murderers. Murders who repeatedly and conveniently evidence, for the first time, multiple personality disorders, when interviewed by these two. Performances which are encouraged and almost welcomed with glee. If you want to watch something that will strip you of any faith you might have in defense "experts," watch this. This is the definition of confirmation bias in quasi-science.
  • tsh332
  • 5 déc. 2020
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10/10

Showing how a system cannot withstand science's advances

The documentary portraits how USA's legal system does not work as a rehabilitation model to re-educate and/or help vulnerable people, but instead, it fuels revenge feelings and bloodlust.
  • sebasgarcam
  • 18 févr. 2022
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1/10

A documentary on confirmation bias

Every suspect examined by Dorothy seems to magically fit into her mold of what DID is, and in turn justify her own existence. The documentary conveniently frames a world around her extreme bias and lack of scientific approach. For example, the doc seemed to have forgotten to mention the fact that Arthur Shawcross would return to the bodies he dumped and made it seem like he would have seizures, kill someone, and wake up not knowing what had happened, even though he would dispose of the body and return for sexual gratification. He also a pathological liar and would play into anything that would benefit him, including playing along with Dorothy's suggestions of DID. It was actually cringeworthy watching a woman romanticize serial killers and then form her own narrative to justify these romantic interests. The rest of the movie follows suit and is a repeat of these blunders. It is no wonder she was never taken seriously in court even though the doc did it's best to frame it as not at all her fault. Great movie to watch if you are interested in seeing how not to be a psychiatrist.
  • jmllr89-303-518676
  • 21 nov. 2020
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1/10

A stigmatizing "documentary"

90% of violent crimes are committed by people who do not have any history of serious mental illnesses. I'm pretty sure people suffering with serious mental illnesses are actually more likely to be the victims rather than perpetrators of violent crimes. I can't believe film makers didn't do a preliminary moment of research and actually agreed to making this. I knew from the first 10 minutes this movie started it would be littered with false information contributing to the dangerous and offensive myths affecting the already struggling mental health community. This doctor on numerous occasions made evil synonymous with serious mental illness. My heart just broke for everyone watching this that suffers from DID or SMIs and those that have or lost loved ones that do. I could not believe this movie was made in 2020.

After watching this, I followed up with a fact check and it's absolutely riddled with misleading information or falsehoods so she can support her narrative. If these killers were just in a dissociative state, why would they be covering up and hiding their crimes?

I also found it baffling that audiences and Laura Dern just accepted the fact that this woman was painting these terrible killers to be merely victims of their conditions without even mentioning the people that they killed. Who thought this was a good idea or this woman had credibility?

Movies like this are the reason why those living with smi are estranged from their families, fired from their jobs, become homeless... The producers and filmmakers need to take some accountability for the dangerous stigma they create.
  • fwznqknk
  • 12 déc. 2020
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3/10

Dr Lewis Resume

This documentary provided little insight into the study of the disassociative mind but rather highlighted Dr. Lewis's view of her most spectacular interactions with famous murderers. The documentary managed to turn a fascinating subject into a 😴.
  • mgalligan-58074
  • 5 janv. 2021
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1/10

Entertainment Doesn't Often Equal Good Science

Practitioners like Dorothy Lewis have long been regarded as goofballs by fellow practitioners such as myself. Her bias alone makes her totally unsuitable for the forensic arena. She refuses to operate from the legal definition of sanity and instead purports to be able to identify innumerable individuals with multiple personality disorder, most of whom find themselves convicted of murder. Her "work" lacks any scientific rigor or process and is regarded as laughable by the vast majority of her colleagues. It is very sad that because of her cartoonish behavior, she has been given popular attention.
  • petrus66-439-220589
  • 23 nov. 2020
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3/10

Interesting, but full of a lot of holes.

Purely an "anti death penalty" movie based on the notion that ALL murderers are brain damaged or have multiple personality/dissociative identity disorder. A lot of it is just pure BS based in nothing close to real science.
  • rwfanj
  • 1 déc. 2020
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5/10

As a piece of filmmaking, it is great, but as a documentary, needs more objectivity and more PIES, more PIES, more PIES!

  • Shaun_of_the_Dude
  • 20 nov. 2020
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1/10

What a bunch of boloney

Is this a documentary, or an advertisement for a person? Alex Gibney has really gone downhill as of late. This "Dr." is a pusher of junk science, and a super gullible individual to boot. Even I could tell that the criminals she interviewed were playing with her, how could she not notice that? Also, Johnny Frank Garrett is an almost certainly an innocent man wrongfully executed by the State of TX. There is a ton of material on line about him, yet she keeps talking about him as though he were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt! Has she not kept up with the cases that she participated in? That is shoddy work at best.
  • eakogan
  • 3 févr. 2021
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2/10

Hocus pocus.

Every cold blood serial killer pines for a dr.lewis . A doctor who will believe anything and everything they are told .

Usually by manipulative people doing life with nothing to lose.

Fortunately we get the shawcross debacle and Dr. Park Dietz and his voice of reason .

Surprisingly her credibility returned after 3 years when really she should have been blacklisted.
  • twominds79
  • 12 févr. 2022
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3/10

Presenting confirmation bias through sincere efforts

This wasn't going to be good work without more academic and research context in the history of trends in osychological treatment modalities. Considering when this Doctor was making a name for herself, I'm gobsmacked by the hagiographic tendencies. Afterall, the 80's and 90's were satanic panic time, the the mental health and social services fields at the time have alot to answer for in the rush to diagnose and often condemn based on confirmation bias, while giddily handing out Seratonin regulators as the miracle drug for a world in existential crises..

Whatever the point of this documentary, the subject matter certainly is worthy of a more nuanced and critical eye, regardless of any overarching point about the irrational and inhumane way capital punishment is meted out in this country, how mental illness is dealt with in the carceral context, and where our social evolution is pointing. It's not even a very complete basic biography of the clinician's life and work. The brief snippets of interviews with her two colleagues offered nothing to the telling.

There is a reason hypnosis and multiple personality disorder diagnoses are regarded as incredibly controversial and dubious. I feel confident that Gibney know this, so why did this undeveloped mess get produced? All you have to do is look at the thoroughness of Crime of the Century to know what he's capable of.
  • lu_lou_belle
  • 3 oct. 2022
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3/10

Garbage in, garbage out

The "research" presented by this doctor is not objective. Her opinions are biasing any work she's done here. Another crusader, excusing abhorrent behavior. DID is questionable at best, and very likely does not exist. How could a serial murderer be able to elude authorities, keep it from friends and family?
  • billyfriedrich
  • 14 août 2021
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