Zeitgeist

Zeitgeist offers a grim view of things, that connects a lot of questions that arise when one wonders why things are the way they are, while we have more than we need on this planet. (not enough compassion among those who are being given the power, by the people)

Zeitgeist offers a path to lots of topics, about which one can finally engage some intelligent debate, without being shut down by simple evasive excuses, mostly in the form of offensive comments.

Zeitgeist offers a lot of (black) humor in many ways, f.ex in the form of ridiculous criticism, like most of films that try to really make a difference and fight the commonly accepted values. It shows effectively how fear and the lack of quality education (wisdom, not talking about merits or institutions) affects our thinking.

Some critics even seem to derive a weird kind of pleasure from neglecting things and praising their narrow views about the Zeitgeist being overly one sided. F.ex, should the film digest all the information for the viewer? That kind of stuff is widely seen on many movies. Especially considering films like Zeitgeist, it would affect destructively to the effectively developing mood and atmosphere. Leading to a situation where there is less room for these kinds of great emotions and thoughts among viewers that it offers as it is. We should try to find our fears and let them go, so we could think more clearly and maybe even enjoy some new things. We have our primitive side, but we also have the power to learn to control it.

Here's a bit more of this "lunatic" "mumble" to lighten up the end (and to give some of you an excuse to keep your values):

Concern, respect and self-awareness. Mix those up and you get compassion, kindness and love. Your "heaven" on Earth.

Lets get this species evolving! ;)

With Love,

Juha K. K. Oksanen

I found this documentary to be excellent. It is a thought provoking, well executed expose' on the manipulations of the masses by those with wealth and power. Some who watch it will find many of it's connections far-fetched, but the fact of the matter is: there are many sources to back them up.

The Truth is, this film doesn't have to be 100% correct, or 75%, or 50%. There's still some serious problems with the world if a forth of it's information holds water. And even if it's all bull, it'll shake you into questioning what is true. And that's all it needs to do.

No one should have any illusions abut what the War on Terrorism or our Federal Banking System.

As a student of both American and European History I found the explanations given in this documentary to be reasonable and logical. Watch it!

I heard about this movie long time ago and like all good down loaders i was going to download it but i don't know what happened i just forgot about the movie. Then this whole wave of posts, threads were being made in different sites about this movie and things it mentioned and still i was ignorant. So today, i mean today my friend actually gave me the movie for reviewing. So what are my verdicts. i was a fool for ignoring this awesome movie and i am glad i watched it. This movie is shocking and all the time convincing. Its a must watch if your a Muslim or anyone it will make all the things clearer to you. But i must warn you, you got to have an Open mind when watching this movie, this movie touches so many things that you might get confused or totally feel betrayed.

"The belief in the Big Other as an invisible power structure is the most succinct definition of paranoia" - Slavoj Zizek

We've seen these horror documentaries before. They all claim that a "secret cabal" is slowly conspiring to reduce human rights and enslave the world. They attempt to create a mono-myth, linking various conspiracies and hidden agendas into a single all-encompassing myth. A myth that explains the purpose and point and future of everything.

"Zeitgeist", which plays on the paranoia of the internet generation, itself implies that "evil politicians" and mysterious world leaders are secretly conspiring to oppress the human race. But the truth is, such leaders are themselves servants to invisible systems, and politicians aren't evil so much as they're products of a social system that is conducive of corruption.

"Zeitgeist's" first act is essentially a short lecture on religion. It's overly sensationalistic, but the documentary's point is generally true: religions evolve over time, our current religions borrow heavily from past myths, and religion is itself simultaneously a tool for control, an elaborate shared psychosis, a social support network and a means for placating various existential anxieties.

"Zeitgeist's" second act is it's weakest. Here we get an elaborate critique of the "official 9/11 narrative", the film-makers analysing and debunking various aspects of the 2001, September 11th terrorist attacks. The jury's still out on all this.

"Zeitgeist's" third act is perhaps its most important. Here the film-makers critique various aspects of money creation, banking cartels and debt based currency. These points are all correct, of course, but amount to a fairly superficial critique of capitalism. The truth's worse, and far more shocking - capitalism is itself a shared psychosis - albeit in a prosaic way. One's far better off reading books by thermoeconomists, steady-state advocates and any neo-Marxist radically aligned against neoclassical economists.

In a more general, philosophical sense, "Zeitgeist" is false to imply that there is some conscious, scheming "order" out to get you. There is no order. These "evil conspirators" - which is not to say that shady figures don't commit conspiratorial crimes; they do, they're just don't quite know what they're doing - are every bit slaves to unconscious drives and physical currents. The actual entity doing the controlling does not exist. There is no Big Other, no master plan or entity in possession of secret knowledge.

"Zeitgeist" goes on to say that human beings will "accept this new order" because Americans are dumb, "mindless slaves" addicted to "pleasure seeking activities". Essentially this echoes Marx's ideas that a comfortable populace will never challenge its rulers for fear of rocking the boat and losing the few amenities it has. There's much truth in that (and also the opposite; as capitalism sucks more wealth up the pyramid, people have less and become more violent). And yet, according to sociological investigations, people are increasingly finding less and less pleasure in recreational activities. This growing indifference towards intense pleasure contrasts with the official view that our society is bent on instant gratification. Lacan and Marcuse foresaw this decades ago, when they essentially stated that subjects who dedicate their lives to pleasure would increasingly become so involved in preparatory activities that the joy of the official goal of their efforts fades away. We see this today, with millions obsessed with prolonging youth/beauty/pleasure, yet obviously living in permanent anxiety and under the shadow of ultimate failure.

Today the command "Enjoy!", the motto of capitalism, is a much more effective way to hinder man's access to enjoyment than out-right prohibition, which maintains a space for transgression. The lesson is that the selfish "care of the Self," and not a "repressive group of conspirators", is the ultimate enemy of intense pleasure experiences. Man's dream Utopia, where he whimsically takes part in every conceivable, masturbatory pleasure, will increasingly morph into a kind of apathetic Antonioni-like boredom. The direct intervention of pain (weird sado-masochistic sexual practises etc) or the escalations of perversions, now seem the only remaining paths to intensity.

Thus, the fact that "The Big Other" doesn't exist, has two consequences. Firstly, the failure of symbolic fiction causes man to cling more and more to imaginary Simulacra (films, computers etc), and secondly, it triggers the need for violence of the body (ie Cronenberg).

Bizarrely, we see these themes of repression, sexuality, knowledge and utopia in the Bible. In Genesis, Adam and Eve tended to the Garden (society), obediently doing their duty and obeying the orders of God (bureaucracy). They were naked, repressed and stupid, but they had food and water and enough kinky Biblical entertainment to keep them busy. Along came Satan, the story's actual hero. He taught them the truth: that it is wise to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. And so Adam and Eve taste the fruit, gain wisdom, develop a moral sense, learn of their nakedness and challenge God. In the real world, society is perhaps evolving backwards toward this Eden State. Man doesn't want to eat from the Tree of knowledge, but wants his own isolated utopia, with the right balance of abundance, myopia and external Law. What's more, he wants all his troubles, decisions and fears to be taken care of by a paternalistic God, where God represents bureaucracy and the symbolic Order. The irony is, our current social models cannot support this (it will take 6-10 planet earths worth of resources just to provide a middle class life for everyone currently on the planet). This creates little Satan's out of us all, everyone waiting in the wings, perhaps to be awakened and sent clawing at God.

5/10 - Scepticism is good, but this is mostly a sensationalist horror movie.

This film explores three themes which seem totally unrelated: the Christian faith; the attacks of September 11, 2001; the American Federal Reserve System and Income tax. I have never seen a documentary in which images and music were put together in such a powerful and artistic way. The film depicts the fraudulent Zeitgeists that have been used through the centuries to subdue others into acquiescing. It shows that the one truth we are fed daily is a carefully crafted lie, which hold us spellbound. I regret the movie replaces the seen-trough lies with conclusions which had better not been drawn: it would have sufficed to point to the many similarities between The Bible and older books, like the Egyptian book of the dead, without adding the conclusion that Jesus of Nazareth might never have existed. Emphesizing this option as being the most likely one, takes the focus away from the extensive lies which surround Christianity for certain, as is exposed in this film.

It rightly connects the tragic events of 9/11 with the true perpetrators thereof, and does not shy from showing the terrible consequences in human life both on that day and in the years that followed in a fraudulous "War on Terror", which to most people in it is very real, but for its inventors just a cruel joke on a population of semi-sentient humans, who slaughter human life as some humans would slaughter cattle.

Finally, it reveals that unbelievable manipulation has reached a 100-year anniversary after the 1907 panic and the 1913 introduction of the Ferderal Reserve bill, which opened the way to stage not one but two World Wars, which to the casual beholder did little to change the balance of power in the world, but in truth transfered power from the open to the shadows on a grand scale.

A film worth watching over and over again - if you can stomach its dreadful horrors, both in picture and in concept.