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Le dahlia noir

Titre original : The Black Dahlia
  • 2006
  • 12
  • 2h 1min
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Le dahlia noir (2006)
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Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".

  • Réalisation
    • Brian De Palma
  • Scénario
    • Josh Friedman
    • James Ellroy
  • Casting principal
    • Josh Hartnett
    • Aaron Eckhart
    • Scarlett Johansson
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,6/10
    79 k
    MA NOTE
    POPULARITÉ
    4 639
    653
    • Réalisation
      • Brian De Palma
    • Scénario
      • Josh Friedman
      • James Ellroy
    • Casting principal
      • Josh Hartnett
      • Aaron Eckhart
      • Scarlett Johansson
    • 709avis d'utilisateurs
    • 130avis des critiques
    • 49Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 4 victoires et 16 nominations au total

    Vidéos11

    Official Trailer
    Trailer 2:25
    Official Trailer
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    Clip 1:10
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    Clip 1:10
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Asks Madeline About Elizabeth Short
    Clip 0:54
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Asks Madeline About Elizabeth Short
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Arrives At Madeline's House
    Clip 0:45
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Arrives At Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Madeline Tells Bucky About Sleeping With Elizabeth Short
    Clip 1:14
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Madeline Tells Bucky About Sleeping With Elizabeth Short
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Elizabeth Short Plays Sad In A Screen Test
    Clip 1:16
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Elizabeth Short Plays Sad In A Screen Test

    Photos384

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    Rôles principaux43

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    Josh Hartnett
    Josh Hartnett
    • Dwight 'Bucky' Bleichert
    Aaron Eckhart
    Aaron Eckhart
    • Lee Blanchard
    Scarlett Johansson
    Scarlett Johansson
    • Kay Lake
    Hilary Swank
    Hilary Swank
    • Madeleine Linscott
    Mia Kirshner
    Mia Kirshner
    • Elizabeth Short
    Mike Starr
    Mike Starr
    • Det. Russ Millard
    Fiona Shaw
    Fiona Shaw
    • Ramona Linscott
    Patrick Fischler
    Patrick Fischler
    • Deputy DA Ellis Loew
    James Otis
    James Otis
    • Dolph Bleichert
    John Kavanagh
    John Kavanagh
    • Emmett Linscott
    Troy Evans
    Troy Evans
    • Chief Ted Green
    Anthony Russell
    Anthony Russell
    • Morrie Friedman
    Pepe Serna
    Pepe Serna
    • Tomas Dos Santos
    Angus MacInnes
    Angus MacInnes
    • Capt. John Tierney
    • (as Angus MacInnis)
    Rachel Miner
    Rachel Miner
    • Martha Linscott
    Victor McGuire
    Victor McGuire
    • Sgt. Bill Koenig
    Gregg Henry
    Gregg Henry
    • Pete Lukins
    Jemima Rooper
    Jemima Rooper
    • Lorna Mertz
    • Réalisation
      • Brian De Palma
    • Scénario
      • Josh Friedman
      • James Ellroy
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    5cornflakeboy20

    over-the-top mess

    Anybody expecting to get a great account of the Black Dahlia case, even fictional, will be disappointed going in to this movie. Of course, I knew that it was a fictionalization of the case, but I had no idea the movie would present its own evidence and draw its own conclusions.

    But the main problem here is not the lack of factual detail, so much as the confusion of plot that surrounds and overwhelms the Black Dahlia case itself. So much plot and character and sideplots and backstory are built around the central characters that the case itself seems like a distraction. A key plot point and character motivator is the fascination of the two detectives with the murder, but this is never elaborated enough in the film, and we're left to half-heartedly guess at the character motivations.

    The tone is never consistently campy, but when the camp arrives it overwhelms the story. A dinner scene between a suspect and her family had the crowd in stitches (the only scene during which the audience laughed). The problem is that the scene is valuable to the plot and should never have been played for laughs. Hitchcock or even Lynch could have shot the same scene, with the same events and dialogue, and made it menacing and creepy, which it needed to be to function in the mystery.

    Other problems: De Palma uses the lesbian angle of the movie (never a part of the case) to full exploitative advantage, and the actresses seem unable to master to the expressive 1940s style acting that would have come naturally to even a marginal 40s star.

    Although the film brings a clearcut finale rather than a vague puzzle, too many loose threads come together too neatly and rather than bringing the film to a satisfactory conclusion, it leaves you scratching your head, is this what I spent the last 2 hours waiting to hear? Overall, there is too much plot, too little character development and a wildly uneven tone. The movie has its moments but it's a blinding mess all together.
    7preppy-3

    Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I LIKED this

    Fictional movie based on a real unsolved Hollywood murder in the 1940s. The mutilated body of Elizabeth Short (Mia Kirschner) is found in an empty lot. Officer Dwight Bleichert (Josh Harnett) and Sgt. Leland Blanchard (Aaron Eckhart) are assigned to the case. Blanchard becomes obsessed with the case causing troubles with his girlfriend Kay Lake (Scarlett Johansson). She then falls for Bleichert. Then there are more murders and lesbians and incest are thrown in...

    The plot is a little too convoluted but so was the book (by Jack Ellroy). To be totally honest I can't understand why this is getting blasted by the critics. It's no masterpiece but it's 100 times better than director Brian DePalma's last film (2002's terrible "Femme Fatale") and probably his best work since 1996's "Mission Impossible". The 1940s setting is beautifully captured with clothes and settings--this film really looks great. DePalma once again gives us some incredible visual sequences--one murder is downright terrifying and one of the best things he's done in years. Also the plot, while involved, does reach a logical, satisfying conclusion. However the film isn't perfect.

    There's a lesbian bar here that's really overdone. It's beautiful, with a ridiculously elaborate stage show--but in 1940s Hollywood? I don't think so. The acting is all over the place. Eckhart OVERACTS to a ridiculous degree. Hartnett is terrible (no surprise there) but so are Johansson and Hilary Swank (both wonderful actresses). It seems like Harnett's presence bring them down to his level of non acting. Last, and least, is English actress Fiona Lewis who is certainly acting but not in this picture. She overdoes it so much she makes Eckhart look restrained.

    So I DID like it but with a tighter story and a better leading man this might have been great. As it stands it's a very good, well-made movie with some questionable acting. I give it a 7.
    mlatapie-1

    Disappointed

    I was disappointed in this film mainly because I love James Elroy's books and found that this film did not do it justice. The characters in the film became stereotypes or cardboard 40's characters. Scarlett Johannsen looked like a young Lana Turner on tranquilizers.........very little emotion, so much mumbling.............poor Hilary Swank was just too distracting in her black wig trying to be a 40's vamp ...........I guess we are not accustomed to seeing her that way and she evidently does not do well in sexy, seductive roles............Josh Hartnett did pretty well.........although the constant taking off of clothing of his different ladies seemed a bit tiresome......if I would have had this on video I would have fast forwarded the constant "clothes removal" scenes. James Ellroy also wrote LA Confidential and that was a masterpiece on film.........but of course, the actors were Russell Crowe, Kevin Spacey, Danny Divito, and many very well seasoned actors with a far above average script. Sorry to say that this film is not academy award material as LA Confidential was................Ellroy's stories can be told on film with good writing, competent acting, good casting, good screenplay and continuity. This was not present in The Black Dahlia. Actually, the girl who played The Black Dahlia was the most sensitive and sympathetic and portrayed her character excellently.
    5littlemartinarocena

    Beautiful, Messy, Campy, Noirish, Smartly Idiotic

    Yes, all of it and more. The images are beautiful but what a mess. I don't need to understand what's going on if, at least, I'm entertained. Look at The Big Sleep for instance. There will never be another "Chinatown" I'm afraid, regardless of what Mr Ellroy thinks. The one element that sees you through this inconsequential mess is Josh Harnett's face. At times he looks as confused as I did and just as annoyed. Who can blame him? Hilary Swank, what was she doing? She looked like Vampyra's sister, the boring one. What a catastrophic piece of casting. And Fiona Shaw? If the film had been all like her performance the flick could have had a chance at the campiest "noire" ever put on film ever. But not such luck. All this said and done, it's a De Palma movie and that counts for something. Black Dahlia is certainly better than Snake Eyes but as a De Palma fan I felt terribly let down.
    7DonFishies

    Interesting and stylish, but disappointing overall

    It has been almost ten years since Curtis Hanson delivered what was arguably the best picture of 1997, L.A. Confidential. That movie was great in almost every way (my key dislike was only in the performance of Kim Basinger, yet the Academy did not agree with me), and a big part of that was due to the source material from James Ellroy. And now comes The Black Dahlia, another one of Ellroy's books based on detectives in the 1940's, only revolving around a real event and having master filmmaker Brian De Palma at the helm. And unfortunately, the film comes with mixed results.

    After taking part in a boxing match which ends up giving a whole lot more power to the L.A.P.D., Dwight "Bucky" Bleichert (Josh Hartnett) and Leland "Lee" Blanchard (Aaron Eckhart) are promoted to detectives and become partners. Shortly afterwards, they become entangled in the brutal murder of Elizabeth Short (Mia Kirshner), otherwise known as the titular Black Dahlia. What follows for them is a tale of corruption, greed and vengeance. It may not seem like much (not too mention the femme fatales of Scarlett Johansson and Hilary Swank), but the film really has a lot going on.

    And this is where a bit of the problems lie.

    Some of the events that occur over the course of the film, are just completely random and almost unexplainable. Hell, random subplots appear and disappear faster than they come up. When it really starts getting down to business, the movie becomes downright confusing, and the narrative does not let up for anyone to truly figure it all out. It gets especially bizarre in the final act, when almost nothing truly makes sense, and we just have to sit and just contend with what ends up happening. It makes it seem like they want the audience to sift through and determine what is relevant to the film and what is not, and only then can they truly grasp onto a full understanding. Even after watching the film a few hours ago, I still question some of the things that happened.

    I think one of the key reasons it does not make a whole whack of sense is the fact that it revolves around a real event. Last week's Hollywoodland had this same problem in that the filmmakers do not seem to have an idea of where to draw your attention. Do they want the focus on the murder itself, or do they want the focus on the cops investigating it? Adding in a few seemingly bizarre backstories does not help this either. They seem to strike gold when they focalize on what the murder and its impending investigation is doing to Bucky and Lee, but they do not spend enough time expressing it. They touch on it in passing, and instead, cut to either useless items, or completely random things. You can tell that there is some form of direction however, just not enough.

    Hartnett plays Bucky very smoothly, and does a very adequate job in his narration. He really lacks the zest to make his character interesting however, and has a really tough time trying to make the audience care about him. He just does not seem to have the hard-boiled cop schtick nailed down here, and only comes off as a little less than soft-boiled. Eckhart on the other hand, does have the zest and really shines through as Lee. His character goes through most of the changing during the film, and you can see the dramatic change of character as the film progresses. He just does not have nearly enough screen time to truly flesh him from being the strange and mysterious character.

    Johansson does well for herself as the girl stuck between the two partners, and only sparingly gets the opportunity to stretch out her enigmatic character. Swank on the other hand, feels completely useless in the scheme of things (until her character actually serves a purpose later in the film). Her disappear/reappearing Scottish accent is laughable, and her whole performance really begs the question of how she has managed to snag two Best Actress Oscars in less than ten years. Supporting work, especially from Mike Starr, Fiona Shaw and the flashback heavy Kirshner, are all on the mark and are fairly well done in their limited roles.

    Whereas there were problems with many other things, there are none with the sets, costumes and cinematography. This is 1940's Los Angeles, and it looks gorgeous. Every single minute detail seems to have been polished and amped up to the point of looking like it was filmed sixty years ago. It makes the film feel more realistic than it is, and makes the sheer "coolness" of the settings and characters stand right out. Although it may be advertised as being noir, it really is nowhere near as dark as it could have been. Yet, it still has enough packed into it to make this film visually astonishing.

    Another standout is the feel of it being a De Palma film. The camera angles, the slow motion, the violence, the sheer editing of it all (especially the worn black and white film clips of Kirshner as Short), just screams old school De Palma. From the start, even with its problems, the audience knows it is in the hands of a style master, and in that regard, the film is consistent and on the mark.

    But unfortunately, that same phrase cannot be used to describe the rest of the film. It is truly a mixed bag, but despite its confusing narrative, it is still interesting and stylish as hell. But I still cannot help but be disappointed overall. I guess I was just expecting a whole lot more.

    7/10.

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    • Anecdotes
      When Dwight "Bucky" Bleichert goes searching through some photographs, you can see a real autopsy photo of Elizabeth Short.
    • Gaffes
      When Bucky Bleichert enters Sheryl Saddon's bedroom to get the suitcase, there is a postcard-sized picture of Bettie Page on the wall. Bettie Page did not start modeling until 1950.
    • Citations

      Emmet Linscott: What kind of name is Bleichert? Dutch?

      Ofcr. Dwight "Bucky" Bleichert: German.

      Emmet Linscott: Ah, a great people, the Germans. Hitler was a bit excessive. But mark my words that someday we'll regret not joining forces with him to fight the Reds.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: The Black Dahlia/The Gridiron Gang/Everyone's Hero/Haven (2006)
    • Bandes originales
      In the Mood
      Written by Joe Garland (as Joseph C. Garland)

      Used by Permission of Shapiro Bernstein & Co. Inc. (ASCAP)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 8 novembre 2006 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
      • Allemagne
      • France
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La Dalia Negra
    • Lieux de tournage
      • New Boyana Film Studios, Budapest, Bulgarie(Studio)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Universal Pictures
      • Millennium Films
      • Signature Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 50 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 22 545 080 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 10 005 895 $US
      • 17 sept. 2006
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 49 332 692 $US
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      • Dolby Digital
    • Rapport de forme
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