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Le dahlia noir

Titre original : The Black Dahlia
  • 2006
  • 12
  • 2h 1min
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Le dahlia noir (2006)
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Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".Deux policiers voient leurs vies personnelles et professionnelles s'effondrer à la suite de l'enquête sur le meurtre du "Dahlia noir".

  • Réalisation
    • Brian De Palma
  • Scénario
    • Josh Friedman
    • James Ellroy
  • Casting principal
    • Josh Hartnett
    • Aaron Eckhart
    • Scarlett Johansson
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,6/10
    79 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Brian De Palma
    • Scénario
      • Josh Friedman
      • James Ellroy
    • Casting principal
      • Josh Hartnett
      • Aaron Eckhart
      • Scarlett Johansson
    • 709avis d'utilisateurs
    • 130avis des critiques
    • 49Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 Oscar
      • 4 victoires et 16 nominations au total

    Vidéos11

    Official Trailer
    Trailer 2:25
    Official Trailer
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    Clip 1:10
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    Clip 1:10
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Kay Confronts Bucky In Front Of Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Asks Madeline About Elizabeth Short
    Clip 0:54
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Asks Madeline About Elizabeth Short
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Arrives At Madeline's House
    Clip 0:45
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Bucky Arrives At Madeline's House
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Madeline Tells Bucky About Sleeping With Elizabeth Short
    Clip 1:14
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Madeline Tells Bucky About Sleeping With Elizabeth Short
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Elizabeth Short Plays Sad In A Screen Test
    Clip 1:16
    The Black Dahlia Scene: Elizabeth Short Plays Sad In A Screen Test

    Photos384

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    Rôles principaux43

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    Josh Hartnett
    Josh Hartnett
    • Dwight 'Bucky' Bleichert
    Aaron Eckhart
    Aaron Eckhart
    • Lee Blanchard
    Scarlett Johansson
    Scarlett Johansson
    • Kay Lake
    Hilary Swank
    Hilary Swank
    • Madeleine Linscott
    Mia Kirshner
    Mia Kirshner
    • Elizabeth Short
    Mike Starr
    Mike Starr
    • Det. Russ Millard
    Fiona Shaw
    Fiona Shaw
    • Ramona Linscott
    Patrick Fischler
    Patrick Fischler
    • Deputy DA Ellis Loew
    James Otis
    James Otis
    • Dolph Bleichert
    John Kavanagh
    John Kavanagh
    • Emmett Linscott
    Troy Evans
    Troy Evans
    • Chief Ted Green
    Anthony Russell
    Anthony Russell
    • Morrie Friedman
    Pepe Serna
    Pepe Serna
    • Tomas Dos Santos
    Angus MacInnes
    Angus MacInnes
    • Capt. John Tierney
    • (as Angus MacInnis)
    Rachel Miner
    Rachel Miner
    • Martha Linscott
    Victor McGuire
    Victor McGuire
    • Sgt. Bill Koenig
    Gregg Henry
    Gregg Henry
    • Pete Lukins
    Jemima Rooper
    Jemima Rooper
    • Lorna Mertz
    • Réalisation
      • Brian De Palma
    • Scénario
      • Josh Friedman
      • James Ellroy
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    tedg

    The Storytellers Hands

    Have you ever been with a master storyteller who is hot? I mean in person. Its an absolutely captivating thing, watching the craft of captivating you. Its a worthy experience, even when the story isn't good. In fact, its even better when they story isn't good. You might wonder for a while why such a talented teller would choose the material she has, but will fade as you fall under spell of the storyteller, undistracted by the story. It you are lucky, she'll be a hand dancer and you will simply allow your soul to move with the undermusic.

    dePalma never bothers me when he chooses bad actors, stories and such. Its just not relevant to what he has to offer, and in fact sometimes I'm thankful that the story itself doesn't get in the way. "Mission to Mars" was rewarmed tacos, but the fact that it was served by a metaphoric, genuine Spanish grandmother from her own hands was all that mattered.

    About 22 minutes into this there is a wonderful crane shot, probably done without artificial assistance, beginning five minutes which is the heart of the overly complex story. It sets up two apparently unrelated threads in the story that interweave from this point. It is of the front of a building where later there will be a shooting, moves up and over the building to look at a vacant lot behind where we see a woman making a gruesome discovery. She runs to the street alongside the building where we see the car of our two cops coming to park in front and engage in a shooting. We move in front of the car to a bicyclist, who plays no role in the story. He brings us to a couple walking down the sidewalk approaching the front of the building where they will encounter our cops. We come down to street height and listen in on their conversation.

    Its masterful. Even if you think everything that follows is a mess, its a glorious mess made glorious by our setting of the knitting needles.

    This, my friends, is what noir is about these days: establishing an eye of god who both is us and who perturbs nature to suit conventions of coincidence in storytelling.

    But there's another joy here too. The story — no surprise — features a film within the film. Its the whole story, there, with elements of that internal film overlapping the main story in three or four significant ways. The star of this inner film, who also is our bisected victim is a character played by Mia Kirshner. She's so much more alive and real than anyone else in the main story, I can only assume it was deliberate and a truly thrilling risk. If you follow film, you'll know her very similar and hugely complex role in "Exotica," a landmark film.

    Two major experiences in a film! Of course its worth watching!

    Ted's Evaluation -- 3 of 3: Worth watching.
    5cornflakeboy20

    over-the-top mess

    Anybody expecting to get a great account of the Black Dahlia case, even fictional, will be disappointed going in to this movie. Of course, I knew that it was a fictionalization of the case, but I had no idea the movie would present its own evidence and draw its own conclusions.

    But the main problem here is not the lack of factual detail, so much as the confusion of plot that surrounds and overwhelms the Black Dahlia case itself. So much plot and character and sideplots and backstory are built around the central characters that the case itself seems like a distraction. A key plot point and character motivator is the fascination of the two detectives with the murder, but this is never elaborated enough in the film, and we're left to half-heartedly guess at the character motivations.

    The tone is never consistently campy, but when the camp arrives it overwhelms the story. A dinner scene between a suspect and her family had the crowd in stitches (the only scene during which the audience laughed). The problem is that the scene is valuable to the plot and should never have been played for laughs. Hitchcock or even Lynch could have shot the same scene, with the same events and dialogue, and made it menacing and creepy, which it needed to be to function in the mystery.

    Other problems: De Palma uses the lesbian angle of the movie (never a part of the case) to full exploitative advantage, and the actresses seem unable to master to the expressive 1940s style acting that would have come naturally to even a marginal 40s star.

    Although the film brings a clearcut finale rather than a vague puzzle, too many loose threads come together too neatly and rather than bringing the film to a satisfactory conclusion, it leaves you scratching your head, is this what I spent the last 2 hours waiting to hear? Overall, there is too much plot, too little character development and a wildly uneven tone. The movie has its moments but it's a blinding mess all together.
    7preppy-3

    Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I LIKED this

    Fictional movie based on a real unsolved Hollywood murder in the 1940s. The mutilated body of Elizabeth Short (Mia Kirschner) is found in an empty lot. Officer Dwight Bleichert (Josh Harnett) and Sgt. Leland Blanchard (Aaron Eckhart) are assigned to the case. Blanchard becomes obsessed with the case causing troubles with his girlfriend Kay Lake (Scarlett Johansson). She then falls for Bleichert. Then there are more murders and lesbians and incest are thrown in...

    The plot is a little too convoluted but so was the book (by Jack Ellroy). To be totally honest I can't understand why this is getting blasted by the critics. It's no masterpiece but it's 100 times better than director Brian DePalma's last film (2002's terrible "Femme Fatale") and probably his best work since 1996's "Mission Impossible". The 1940s setting is beautifully captured with clothes and settings--this film really looks great. DePalma once again gives us some incredible visual sequences--one murder is downright terrifying and one of the best things he's done in years. Also the plot, while involved, does reach a logical, satisfying conclusion. However the film isn't perfect.

    There's a lesbian bar here that's really overdone. It's beautiful, with a ridiculously elaborate stage show--but in 1940s Hollywood? I don't think so. The acting is all over the place. Eckhart OVERACTS to a ridiculous degree. Hartnett is terrible (no surprise there) but so are Johansson and Hilary Swank (both wonderful actresses). It seems like Harnett's presence bring them down to his level of non acting. Last, and least, is English actress Fiona Lewis who is certainly acting but not in this picture. She overdoes it so much she makes Eckhart look restrained.

    So I DID like it but with a tighter story and a better leading man this might have been great. As it stands it's a very good, well-made movie with some questionable acting. I give it a 7.
    7dglink

    De Palma Falters with So-So Take on Film Noir

    Dante Ferretti's set design beautifully evokes the 1940's; Vilmos Zsigmond's cinematography enhances the period look; and the voice-over narration has been pulled from film-noir classics. While Brian De Palma's "The Black Dahlia" has much of the look and feel of Curtis Hanson's 1997 "L.A. Confidential," that far superior film boasted better performances and a well-written screenplay. Although both films were based on James Ellroy novels and both had complicated, involved plots, the Hanson film came together with satisfying logic. Unfortunately, De Palma's movie is equally if not more complex and leaves a few threads dangling or at least badly frayed.

    Although loosely based on a famous Hollywood murder, "The Black Dahlia" spends more time than necessary in establishing the three-way partnership, if not ménage, between Josh Hartnett, Scarlett Johansson, and Aaron Eckhart. The leisurely pace allows viewers to ponder the last time that they saw a film with so many double letters in the stars' names. The trailer, which has played in theaters for weeks, was misleading, and the actual murder and resulting investigation do not begin until well into the film after we have witnessed boxing scenes between the police investigators, Hartnett and Eckhart, and some three-way flirtations that do little to advance the proceedings.

    The film only becomes interesting when the campy upper crust Linscott family enters. Hilary Swank as Madeleine Linscott is a deadly femme in black and as fatale as they come. Fiona Shaw as her mother shamelessly steals scenes and chews the banisters in her few minutes on screen, and John Kavanagh as Emmet Linscott adds to the family's quirky personality. An entire film could have been constructed around the Linscotts that would have been far more interesting than the Hartnett-Johansson-Eckhart romance. Scarlett has little to do but purse her luscious red lips and look desirable in tight blouses, which she does quite well. Josh is all squinty-eyed intensity and muscled charm, which he does quite well. Aaron tries for more, but goes a bit over the top; perhaps he would have been more comfortable playing a cousin of the Linscotts.

    Although "The Black Dahlia" is not the worst way to spend two hours, the film's pedigree would lead viewers to expect more. Only a week after the less-disappointing "Hollywoodland," De Palma's take on another old Hollywood mystery should have been riveting. All of the essentials were there, except possibly a seasoned troop of stars, for another "L.A. Confidential." Unfortunately, what arrived was a nearly indecipherable mystery within a tedious love triangle that was wrapped in multi-million dollar production values.
    4TheLittleSongbird

    Interesting and well made, but rather flat and dare I say over-the-top too

    Now I like Brian DePalma, and I love Carrie, The Untouchables and Carlito's Way. Out of the films of his I've seen, The Black Dahlia is my least favourite in my view, though I was also rather disappointed in Scarface too.

    I was really interested in its concept and the story seemed interesting. Also the film is very well made, with stylish cinematography and beautiful scenery, costumes, sets and makeup, DePalma's direction has occasional flashes of brilliance and the music was quite nice as well.

    However, this is another case of style over substance. The script falls flat, with little idea of which direction to go, and the tone of the story is also uneven with some scenes disappointingly over-the top. The characters I felt indifferent to, and I also thought they were quite shallow and poorly explored, the pace is rather meandering and with exception of Fiona Shaw who's quite good the acting is bland. Also the ending I think is overdone.

    All in all, interesting initially and while well made it is emotionally hollow and flat in its scripting and characterisation. 4/10 Bethany Cox

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    • Anecdotes
      When Dwight "Bucky" Bleichert goes searching through some photographs, you can see a real autopsy photo of Elizabeth Short.
    • Gaffes
      When Bucky Bleichert enters Sheryl Saddon's bedroom to get the suitcase, there is a postcard-sized picture of Bettie Page on the wall. Bettie Page did not start modeling until 1950.
    • Citations

      Emmet Linscott: What kind of name is Bleichert? Dutch?

      Ofcr. Dwight "Bucky" Bleichert: German.

      Emmet Linscott: Ah, a great people, the Germans. Hitler was a bit excessive. But mark my words that someday we'll regret not joining forces with him to fight the Reds.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: The Black Dahlia/The Gridiron Gang/Everyone's Hero/Haven (2006)
    • Bandes originales
      In the Mood
      Written by Joe Garland (as Joseph C. Garland)

      Used by Permission of Shapiro Bernstein & Co. Inc. (ASCAP)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 8 novembre 2006 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
      • Allemagne
      • France
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La Dalia Negra
    • Lieux de tournage
      • New Boyana Film Studios, Budapest, Bulgarie(Studio)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Universal Pictures
      • Millennium Films
      • Signature Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 50 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 22 545 080 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 10 005 895 $US
      • 17 sept. 2006
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 49 332 692 $US
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    • Durée
      • 2h 1min(121 min)
    • Couleur
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    • Mixage
      • Dolby Digital
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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