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Complicated Women

  • Téléfilm
  • 2003
  • 55min
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7,7/10
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Jean Harlow and Norma Shearer in Complicated Women (2003)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA look at actresses who starred in films with thought-provoking subjects made between 1929-1934 - before the Hollywood Production Code was enforced.A look at actresses who starred in films with thought-provoking subjects made between 1929-1934 - before the Hollywood Production Code was enforced.A look at actresses who starred in films with thought-provoking subjects made between 1929-1934 - before the Hollywood Production Code was enforced.

  • Réalisation
    • Hugh Munro Neely
  • Scénario
    • Mick LaSalle
    • Hugh Munro Neely
    • Andie Hicks
  • Casting principal
    • Jane Fonda
    • Frances Dee
    • Kitty Carlisle
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    • Réalisation
      • Hugh Munro Neely
    • Scénario
      • Mick LaSalle
      • Hugh Munro Neely
      • Andie Hicks
    • Casting principal
      • Jane Fonda
      • Frances Dee
      • Kitty Carlisle
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  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Jane Fonda
    Jane Fonda
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    Frances Dee
    Frances Dee
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    Kitty Carlisle
    Kitty Carlisle
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    • (as Kitty Carlisle Hart)
    Molly Haskell
    Molly Haskell
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    Mick LaSalle
    Mick LaSalle
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    Mae Madison
    Mae Madison
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    Karen Morley
    Karen Morley
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    Mark Vieira
    Mark Vieira
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    Fred Astaire
    Fred Astaire
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    Robert Barrat
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    John Barrymore
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    Lionel Barrymore
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    Wallace Beery
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    Cecil Cunningham
    Cecil Cunningham
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      • Hugh Munro Neely
    • Scénario
      • Mick LaSalle
      • Hugh Munro Neely
      • Andie Hicks
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    dougdoepke

    Revealing

    So, there was a period in Hollywood when the lid was pretty much off, when not all girls were virgins or dependents like those of the 1950's. That, of course, was the now legendary pre- Code period from 1929 to 1934. This independently produced documentary does a good job of profiling the different independent girl types from that freewheeling time. From prostitutes to femme-fatales to executive types, the array is colorful and challenging, with illustrating snippets from the films themselves, plus cameo commentary from a few of the surviving actresses (Karen Morley, Frances Dee, et al.).

    Glimpsed among actresses of the time are such independent types as Kay Francis, Joan Blondell, Greta Garbo, and Norma Shearer, plus many others. Men are strictly marginal, though a few are recognizable in the longer shots. Of course, the emphasis is on sex and seduction, subjects that became taboo once the Code kicked in. So it's fascinating to view the explicitness from a time long before the twin bed and closed mouth kissing of the next 30- years. Most of all, however, it's the notion of liberated, independent women that comes across, as commentator Molly Haskell points out. In short, these are movie images that come much closer to real female sexuality than the censored Hollywood period that followed. For years these pre-Code films were not shown on TV because of their content. Thus, their existence may come as a surprise to many viewers, making this a revealing little documentary in more ways than one.
    7boblipton

    Good Clips

    Actually, very good clips, and the narrative makes a very good claim to proving its thesis: that the sexy Pre-Code dramas and comedies actually represented a realistic depiction of the 20th century morality until Joseph Breen clamped down, making the Production Code not just voluntary, but mandatory.

    There is a good claim in that, but it makes its point by looking at the best of the Pre-Code works and the worst of the movies made under the Code. Nor does it go into the reason that Hollywood made those sexy movies in the first place, and stopped making them later: to sell tickets at the box office. Truth has never been the primary concern of the movie industry; and while these clips demonstrate that Hollywood was interested in selling tickets to men who wanted to look at naked women... well, the underwater swimming sequence from TARZAN AND HIS MATE shows Maureen O'Sullivan's stand-in swimming around in the nude, but Weismuller is wearing a loincloth.
    5FatPhil

    Just Complicated Women

    I almost feel guilty giving this the low score that I did, as, for what it is, it's excellent. Had it been part of a three-parter that expanded onto the (studio and real world) politics and society more at the time in question, and then even delved into the reversion of the code decades later, I'd have been deliriously happy, but alas all I got was the clip show part.

    As such, it's great. First hand reports from the people who were there - the Complicated Women themselves - makes this a particularly insightful documentary. Mick LeSalle is a great writer with an encyclopaedic knowledge of the field (and also the single film reviewer I pay the most attention to, he sees through the fog when others can't), and if you're not familiar with the pre-Code movies you should hopefully find it a very interesting eye-opener...

    ... an eye-opener which will make you say "how did things go so wrong?", and then wish for the other two parts of the documentary :/
    8Maleejandra

    All the Shock of the Era

    Complicated Women is the documentary companion to Mick LaSalle's book about women in the pre-code era. The time from the first talkies through to the enforcement of the Production Code is known as the pre-code era, a great time for movie making. Subjects ranging from marital infidelity, prostitution, abortion, nudity, drug use, and other shocking subjects littered films. The public either loved them or hated them, and thanks to groups like the Catholic Legion of Decency, these subjects were censored. However, this documentary praises these films for their modernity and shows clips from films like The Divorcée, Queen Christina, Downstairs, Torch Singer, Mary Stevens MD, The Smiling Lieutenant, Men in White, Female, A Free Soul, Baby Face, Midnight Mary, The Story of Temple Drake, Red Dust, Faithless, Grand Hotel, Gold Diggers of 1933, Ladies They Talk About, I'm No Angel, Tarzan and His Mate, and more.

    The only problem with this documentary is that it skips around a lot. There are headers for each section, but they all begin to blend together.

    The film incorporates interviews with many great sources like Mick LaSalle, Molly Haskell, Mark Viera, and several actresses of the era.
    7gridoon2025

    A good appetizer - not a full meal

    Terrific little documentary on pre-code movies, and more specifically the role of women in them, but this subject cannot be done justice to in a mere 55 minutes (it's too short). One omission I noticed: Clara Bow. Ironically, the most telling moment of the entire program may be a scene from a POST-Code film at the very end! *** out of 4.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 6 mai 2003 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
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    • Lieux de tournage
      • Ville de New York, New York, États-Unis
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