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Second Best

  • 2004
  • R
  • 1h 26min
NOTE IMDb
5,8/10
469
MA NOTE
Joe Pantoliano in Second Best (2004)
Comédie

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueJealousy overwhelms a group of friends, particularly struggling writer Elliot, as they prepare for the homecoming of their old friend, a wildly successful L.A. producer.Jealousy overwhelms a group of friends, particularly struggling writer Elliot, as they prepare for the homecoming of their old friend, a wildly successful L.A. producer.Jealousy overwhelms a group of friends, particularly struggling writer Elliot, as they prepare for the homecoming of their old friend, a wildly successful L.A. producer.

  • Réalisation
    • Eric Weber
  • Scénario
    • Eric Weber
  • Casting principal
    • Joe Pantoliano
    • Boyd Gaines
    • Peter Gerety
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,8/10
    469
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Eric Weber
    • Scénario
      • Eric Weber
    • Casting principal
      • Joe Pantoliano
      • Boyd Gaines
      • Peter Gerety
    • 24avis d'utilisateurs
    • 9avis des critiques
    • 44Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Joe Pantoliano
    Joe Pantoliano
    • Elliot
    Boyd Gaines
    Boyd Gaines
    • Richard
    Peter Gerety
    Peter Gerety
    • Marshall
    Bronson Pinchot
    Bronson Pinchot
    • Doc Klingenstein
    Matthew Arkin
    Matthew Arkin
    • Gerald
    Jennifer Tilly
    Jennifer Tilly
    • Carole
    Stephen Bogardus
    Stephen Bogardus
    • George
    Barbara Barrie
    Barbara Barrie
    • Dorothea
    Polly Draper
    Polly Draper
    • Paula
    James Ryan
    • Danny
    Stephen Sable
    • Lum Chin
    Damian Young
    Damian Young
    • Robert Stern
    Melody Pantoliano
    • Waitress
    Irma St. Paule
    Irma St. Paule
    • Beth
    Frank McCombs
    • Frank
    Jacob Weber
    • Checkout Person
    Patricia Hearst
    Patricia Hearst
    • Alana
    Fiona Gallagher
    • Tiffany
    • Réalisation
      • Eric Weber
    • Scénario
      • Eric Weber
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    Avis des utilisateurs24

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    7asc85

    Well-acted, well-written...surprisingly good!

    I must admit that seeing a 3.8/10 by IMDb users before I saw this film was not the most encouraging thing for me to read before seeing this movie, which was played for the Trenton (NJ) Film Society last night. But I was pleasantly surprised. Joey "Pants" is actually restrained in this role, and isn't his typical over-the-top screaming character. All the other performances are also quite strong, especially Boyd Gaines. Normally, a film where people are wallowing in their inadequacies is NOT something I'm typically attracted too...that whole "victim culture" is something that I despise. But the film doesn't harp on that aspect as much as I thought it would. Or perhaps it's just that the writing is so superb. I hope this becomes more widely released, as I think it's definitely a worthwhile independent film to see.
    7noralee

    An Honest Look at Baby-Boomer Male Bonding

    "Second Best" shows what the guys from HBO's "Entourage" may be like 40 years from now, so Mark Wahlberg might want to see it as a cautionary tale.

    Like "American Splendor," it features a self-deprecating, self-proclaimed loser who turns his life into art, here as rants that he prints up himself and distributes everywhere around his suburban New Jersey home town.

    But "Elliott" is not a loner or a misanthrope which is what saves him, as played by Joe Pantoliano, from being insufferable or pitiful like "Marty." He is very much a part of a network of friends, family and community, and he is even on tolerated terms with those who have moved on with their lives, including his re-married ex-wife and son (who might be the first handsome gay dental hygienist ever portrayed in film).

    The actors are very comfortable at showing middle-aged, male camaraderie of long time friends, as an unusually expressive self-reflective bunch who talk about more than sports. Though their weekly dinners could put the men's movement back a bit as "Elliott" becomes increasingly lacerating in criticizing his friends' lives, that disruptive nastiness becomes an equalizing set-up when the only alpha male from their group, in a sympathetic three-dimensional performance by Boyd Gaines such that Jerry Bruckheimer should be very grateful this is his alter-ego, comes back to visit the old neighborhood with his own existential crisis.

    Until writer/director Eric Weber stoops to the standard male competitive reflex of jealousy over women ending in fisticuffs, which, frankly, just doesn't make sense for these guys despite the Cyrano analogy, he does present an articulate examination (with a lot of Yiddish phrases) of coming to grips with aging, from their own health problems to the mother's nursing home (though Barbara Barrie seems much more spry than the other residents). That more depressing side of aging baby boomers was left out of "Sideways," though this film also has plenty of funny one-liners, sometimes with easy targets like Hollywood and books, to compensate.

    While the women's tolerance of their men's quirks is saintly, at least they are not portrayed as total bitches, though this is a somewhat cynical reunion for Pantoliano and Jennnifer Tilly since "Bound."

    While "Elliott" got laid off from his publishing job for not being in touch with the market, he is in touch with today's world enough to begin to simultaneously post his rantings as columns on a web blog, and the film's inserts of reactions he generates both in the neighborhood and online from around the country are amusing, keep the film contemporary-feeling and move along the leisurely pace.

    The Bergen County, NJ locales are used very well in creating the feel of a neighborhood.

    Tom O'Brien's score is lovely.

    I don't know if it was the fault of the projectionist or the director that the tops of heads were cut off in so many blurry scenes.
    6baho2

    Most Men Lead Lives of Quiet Desperation

    Written and directed by Edward Weber and produced and starring Joey Pantoliano, Second Best is a curious movie that is painfully entertaining, embarrassingly funny and surprisingly touching in the end. Debuting at Sundance last night, Weber's story is about the anti-heroes, the average Joes that have cashed in their dreams for mediocre careers and dysfunctional families. Accustomed to failure and disappointment, they now only play-act at success, and will grasp at the fringes of worldliness.

    Weber effectively makes the case that there is nobility in the lives of the below-average and that the friendships that bind these people (for they have nothing else but friends) is of greater value and meaning than the worldly success they aspire to.

    Pantoliano hasn't branched far from the tree of his typical roles. He plays Eliot, a wise-cracking, cynical, self-proclaimed loser with a broken marriage and a job selling menswear. He nevertheless is the catalyst for his gang of pals, one of which is a Hollywood mogul currently on top of the world. What's the allure? Eliot is a funny, interesting, original thinker who, in the end, we know to have a heart of gold. And even more important, they've been friends for life.

    I wanted to like the movie, because it feels like an original theme and I cared about the characters. A little more plot would have been nice, though. I also began to weary of the Freudian obsession with sex in a group of 40-year-old men. And I never bought into the extraordinary insensitivity Eliot displays to his friends. And finally, the only remotely likeable female character is Eliot's mother, Barbara Barrie, who gives a nice comedic performance.

    I am eager to see what Weber comes up with next.
    10rapidperambulator

    failure is relative

    Well, i thought this film was going to be an uncomfortable and depressing experience, dealing as it does with personal failure and the jealousy, despondency and self-loathing it can create. But as it turns out, this film is a gem - real, uplifting, moving but unsentimental. It illustrates perfectly how people's unfulfilled aspirations and desires and their search for "success" can blind them to the true worthwhile and positive aspects of themselves and their lives.

    I'm currently reading a book about status anxiety. This is a human condition that is rampant in modern society and it effects all of us to some extent - the need to keep up appearances with our peers (in a material sense) or else believe ourselves to be unloved, useless failures. money = success. This film illustrates this condition perfectly. It also shows us that no one can be a "loser" when they have good friends, people they love and care about and can have fun with. At the end of the day who is the real loser? The millionaire with no friends (real that is) or the toilet attendant with many?

    Very few films like this are made any more - intelligent, though-provoking, profound and uncompromising. No car chases, no unnecessary violence, no product placement, just a very good film.
    8dave-1552

    good dialog, fine acting and directing

    fine film, situations are very much a part of many peoples lives. entertaining storyline, filled with real life situations. who among us hasn't suffered from feeling second best. a good reflection of many peoples feelings and insecurities. good casting and well directed film. film takes you through a full range of emotions, laughter, angst, it's all there. acting is very good. scene locations are excellent. constantly reminded of personal situations that are similar to film. if you have ever felt second best, you will enjoy the film. and who hasn't felt that at some point. it makes a common human condition very entertaining.

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      Elliot: You know, I still can't picture you two having sex.

      Paula: Oh, wait a minute! You can't picture me *making love* with my successful, clean-shaven husband, who wears Paul Stuart suits, but you can see me jumping into bed with a guy that I have to lend money to, pay alimony to, who hasn't washed that tee-shirt since, like, Christmas?

      Elliot: Chanukah.

      George: See you, Elliot.

      Paula: See you, George.

      [George leaves]

      Elliot: Bet he never gave you eight orgasms.

      Paula: Oh Elliot, when are you going to realize sex is only part of a well-integrated life? Besides, half of those were faked.

      Elliot: Four is not so bad!

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    • Date de sortie
      • 16 janvier 2004 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Второй, но лучший
    • Lieux de tournage
      • ÉTATS-UNIS
    • Sociétés de production
      • Keep Your Head
      • Second Best Inc.
      • Tenafly Film Company
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