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Kedma

  • 2002
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  • 1h 40min
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Kedma (2002)
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En mai 1948, peu de temps avant la création de l'État d'Israël, des centaines d'immigrants venus de toute l'Europe arrivent en Palestine, mais risquent d'être arrêtés par les troupes britann... Tout lireEn mai 1948, peu de temps avant la création de l'État d'Israël, des centaines d'immigrants venus de toute l'Europe arrivent en Palestine, mais risquent d'être arrêtés par les troupes britanniques.En mai 1948, peu de temps avant la création de l'État d'Israël, des centaines d'immigrants venus de toute l'Europe arrivent en Palestine, mais risquent d'être arrêtés par les troupes britanniques.

  • Réalisation
    • Amos Gitai
  • Scénario
    • Amos Gitai
    • Marie-Jose Sanselme
    • Ghassan Kanafani
  • Casting principal
    • Andrei Kashker
    • Helena Yaralova
    • Moni Moshonov
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Amos Gitai
    • Scénario
      • Amos Gitai
      • Marie-Jose Sanselme
      • Ghassan Kanafani
    • Casting principal
      • Andrei Kashker
      • Helena Yaralova
      • Moni Moshonov
    • 14avis d'utilisateurs
    • 16avis des critiques
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    • Récompenses
      • 3 victoires et 5 nominations au total

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    Andrei Kashker
    • Yanush
    • (as Andrei Kashkar)
    Helena Yaralova
    • Rosa
    Moni Moshonov
    Moni Moshonov
    • Klibanov
    Juliano Mer-Khamis
    Juliano Mer-Khamis
    • Mussa
    • (as Juliano Merr)
    Yussuf Abu-Warda
    Yussuf Abu-Warda
    • Yussuf
    • (as Yussef Abu Varda)
    Menachem Lang
    • Menachem
    Sendi Bar
    Sendi Bar
    • Yardena
    • (as Sandy Bar)
    Tomer Russo
    Tomer Russo
    • Milek
    • (as Tomer Ruso)
    Veronica Nicole Tetelbaum
    Veronica Nicole Tetelbaum
    • Hanka
    Liron Levo
    Liron Levo
    • Gideon
    Roman Hazanowski
    • Roman
    Keren Ben Rafael
    Keren Ben Rafael
    • Aisha
    • (as Keren Ben Raphael)
    Gal Altschuler
    • Yigal
    Sasha Chernichovsky
    • Sasha
    • (as Alexander Tchernicovsky)
    Dalia Shachaf
    • Dalia
    Rawda Suleiman
    • Jaffra
    • (as Rawda Sulieman)
    Igor Mirkurbanov
    Igor Mirkurbanov
    • Shimshon
    Blair Portnoi
    • British officer
    • Réalisation
      • Amos Gitai
    • Scénario
      • Amos Gitai
      • Marie-Jose Sanselme
      • Ghassan Kanafani
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    6luckystrike6

    Raises more questions than it answers.

    I'm not sure I got what I was supposed to get out of this film. As a piece of cinema it was an interesting way to shoot a low budget movie. With long, almost entirely wide-angle shots that hardly move at all, (except for a magnificent opening sequence and some hand-held work later on) it's staged and paced like a series of short plays. Some of the settings are just too simplistic; visually there isn't a lot going on besides the stories of the people coming in and out of the frame. There's no main protagonist in the film; numerous characters come and go, unresolved, sharing nearly equal screen time, but never quite enough of it to make any one of them more than a two-dimensional expression of a social theme. This dispassionate attitude gives "Kedma" a very documentary feel for the first two acts. It is the third act which is confusing, and even as a Jew with family in Israel, I feel severely underqualified to interpret Amos Gitai's true intentions with it. Watched with one set of eyes, it could be called a relatively simplistic portrayal of the birth of a nation, which throws its hands up to a certain extent and spreads the blame for the current situation around widely enough to defuse the certain blowback this film was to receive from the Orthodox community. On the other hand, in blaming Christianity, the Talmud and the Messianic tradition for enforcing the diaspora mentality over the past 2000 years, it stops right on the doorstep of declaring the modern State of Israel a product of the Jews' inheritance of the Nazi mentality which drove them there in the first place. Now: This isn't what I'm saying, but it might well be what the film is saying. At the very least it states boldly that the heroic Sabra stance is nothing more than the bitter side of the slave mentality, an ongoing form of self- flagellation. Only, the movie doesn't give you any inkling that this is where it's taking you as it leads you on in documentary form; and the result is definitely shocking. This is not a movie which apologizes for any outburst of emotion; nor does it pay much homage to the myth of the historical Maccabee. In short, it is about the weak preying on the weaker. Whether or not its stance is correct or covers the entire picture, again, I'm not qualified to say. There are certainly several other sides to the conversation than the one this film snakes its way into advancing. It's not a coincidence, either, that "Kedma" is the name of the refugee ship the Jewish characters arrive on; this movie, if nothing else, is the anti-"Exodus." None of the above, by the way, makes this film particularly enjoyable to watch. But if you like watching painful and well-crafted work that makes you think, well...it's still not that enjoyable to watch, but at moments it's completely riveting.
    6das417

    Shows the tragedy both Israelis and Palestinians face

    I like this movie in many ways, mainly because it's honest portrayal of the creation of modern day Israel, and what happened so that nation could be born. Kedma is a powerful story of triumph in terms of surviving the Holocaust, and the story of another tragedy of those who had to endure war and more loss.

    The Palestinian situation is also well shown in an unbiased way. I was glad that their side of the story was shown; though by saying this I am not trying to be political. I am saying that in a war like this, both sides need to be heard to understand the tragedy of what was going on.

    Is this a great movie? Yes and no. The story simply dragged in too many points, spending too much time describing characters and situations. I am sure this was the director's intent and it does serve the story somewhat. I knew this wasn't going to be an action movie, however I was expecting a bit more then brief rare lines and over dramatic philosophizing. Most of the movie just seemed to empty.

    This would be a good movie for a class studying Israel. I would recommend it to anyone who has studied the history of the Jews and Israel.
    1paquiwon

    How many ways can you say Boring? Kedma is one.

    This movie is terrible. This movie attempts to show the frustration of one Holocaust survivor having to fight again for his existence and homeland. Despite what could have been a good story line, this movie was neither a good story, nor was it a war story. First, Kedma has minimal dialog throughout the movie, and the dialog it does have it really pointless. Second, it has no action. Even the battle scene in the movie was boring. Amos Giati looks like he was just trying to stretch out the movie to make it a full-length feature rather than a short story. Third, the whole message of the movie seemed to be about the main character, Yanush's disillusionment with the Promised Land and God's promise of Messiah. He claims in the movie that the Jewish people have no history. If you read the Old Testament or Torah, the Jews have probably the longest and best-documented histories of any people. As for Messiah's coming, 2 Peter 3:9 says, "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." If there was one scene to be salvaged from this movie, it was the Arab man, Yussuf Abu-Warda, showing his defiance of the Jews for taking his home. It is too bad there was not more to the movie than that one scene.
    1ynhockey

    One of the Worst Movies in History

    The story of the founding of the State of Israel is one of war, suffering, refugees, political intrigues, miracles and whatnot. Taking any of the above attributes and making a movie that focuses on it cannot leave you with a bad movie. Even a completely talentless director could make an entertaining film out of the Israeli independence story. But somehow Amos Gitai managed to make even this important and exciting episode of modern history into an amateurish and boring series of scenes, which is hard to actually call a film.

    The movie can be summed up fairly simply: Have you read Antigone, or another similar ancient Greek tragedy? Well, imagine an ancient Greek performance of Antigone filmed with a $200 camera, without any cinematographic additions. The scenes are not linked in almost any way, the dialog seems uninspired, as if read from a piece of paper, and the 'message' of the film is told by a raving side character.

    The acting is terrible, the choice of cast mediocre at best, and while the film makes use of several languages, even someone who understands them will have trouble watching the movie without subtitles, because most of the actors themselves don't pronounce anything correctly.

    In short, a horrible movie from a horrible director. Not recommended to anyone.
    5dromasca

    interesting subject, original treatment, poor cinematography

    Amos Gitai is one of the best known Israeli directors, quite successful in the circuit of the international cinema festivals. What a pity that his daring and fresh approach to the key moments of the Israeli history is not doubled, unfortunately, at least in this film, by appropriate cinema means.

    The historical setting of 'Kedma' is the moment of the beginning of the state of Israel when immigrants from Europe, survivors of the Holocaust arrive in Israel aboard the illegal immigration boats, just to finds on the promised shore a new land of conflict. 'Kedma' is the name of an immigrants boat, as 'Exodus' was, and it deals with the same period as in Leon Uris's book and film 'Exodus', Certainly this important moment in history deserves a better treatment than the Hollywood one. It's a setting well entrenched in the collective memory of any Israeli and Palestinian. Gitai however is more interested in decomposing the historical myth rather than building or describing it.

    There are a few good moments in this film. Gitai likes long shots, and the first scene of the film is a beautiful rendition of the immigrants boat, with a nice passing from private to very public life. Another set of scenes represent the communication, or rather the lack of communication between the groups in the new country - immigrants from Europe still in shock after the horrors of the Holocaust, local Jews, prototypes of the 'new Israelis' full of confidence but lacking the understanding of the problems of other groups, displaced Arabs, mis-guided by their leaders and terrorized by the show of force of the Jews starting the long march that will become some day the Palestinian refugees problem, opera-style British troops, all these groups of humans get together in well filmed scenes, but do not really communicate. This is one of the problems that lay at the origin of the Israeli-Arab conflict seems the author to say.

    Despite some memorable scenes, the film does not come together as a consistent piece of cinema. Characters get lost, show up and die too fast, they are more an idea of what they could be than real screen characters. The problem is not the lack of message, but the means - the author focuses in two monologues (by the displaced Arab, and by the Polish Jew immigrant) that say a lot about the continuity of conflict and about heroism being no more than a form of despair in front of the vicissitudes of history, but these are theatrical or literary monologues, without a connection with the film environment where they are placed. 'Kedma' is memorable by its setting and message, but not a good film to remember.

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      Yanush: We don't have history, this is the fact. I don't know how to say this in Hebrew. But this is what it is. Our history is the way it is because of the Christians. We didn't want it be like this. We don't want it this way ever. They forced this on us,and we can't help it. Because of this, I am telling you, I'm against this. But I didn't say anything. She didn't exist because of me. You may find it hard to imagine that I am so intensely against this. I'm really disgusted. Think about it, what have we found? Repression, slander, persecution, and sacrifice. Imbuing with hatred, uninteresting. No glory, no advantage. No heroes, no conquerers. Merely a lot of unlucky traces, moan and weep. Always looking for pardon. I ban indoctrinating the Jews stories to our children. Why does it have to be this way? I say to them. From the day we were expelled from our homeland, we became a people without history. The class no longer exists. Some people find it heroic, because we've experienced the suffering. I have nothing to say to this heroism. When a man is despair to no end, anyone can become a hero, whether he wants to or not. Do you understand? I'll talk to you about this kind of heroism, at the gathering this evening. Look, I have quietly experienced all this! Who is to say it could be any better? Look, we endured the suffering but we'll never have enough of it. Because if it's not for this, we will not exist anymore. That is what I wanted to say to you, endure, endure, endure, Under this situation,sorrow is better than joy. We replace action with our suffering. We'd rather expiate with slavery. This is an illusion of reality, of our hope for the future, our beautiful belief, so on and so forth, how dreadful! It's misery that makes us Jews. It proves that we are valiant. Whoever We didn't do anything. This makes sense, in other words, You cannot destroy us, You will never destroy us. There's no power on earth can do that. The power is limited. But our endurance is not! This expounds everything about the exile, affliction, and the Messiah... The amalgamate of these three, causes Jews not to be able to stand up.causes Jews to continuously drip from one people to another people. causes us to be pursued by hatred by hatred... in exile and exile. How they like this. The richer they get, the more valuable Jerusalem becomes... In exile, our pyramid is built with affliction at the bottom, with our Messiah at the top. The code of Judaism resembles the book of the nether world ! Thousands of men, all of them.in the 2000 years became insane. How admirable, what abominable people! Abominably insane. This kind of insanity is intentional. It comes out of the belief of the Messiah. It's simply a made-up story. Without this made-up story. Everything will be different. In order to end this nightmare, they should end in Palestine or elsewhere. It will compel them to think about their future. You need not do the things you need to. The Messiah will come soon, and he will settle everything. Likewise, anything you should do is to be banned. Banned! We should go on in exile in perpetuity, until the Providence feel that he should rescue us? I... I think... Israel is no longer the country of Jews, not now, but at least in the future. Time will tell us. It's all over. Finished.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 22 mai 2002 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
      • Israël
      • Italie
    • Site officiel
      • Israel Film Fund (Israel)
    • Langues
      • Hébreu
      • Arabe
      • Allemand
      • Polonais
      • Russe
      • Yiddish
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Кедма
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Hadera, Israël(boat scenes)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Agav Hafakot
      • Arte France Cinéma
      • Agav Films
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      • 10 067 $US
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      • 299 293 $US
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      1 heure 40 minutes
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      • Dolby Digital
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