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Scum

  • Téléfilm
  • 1991
  • R
  • 1h 15min
NOTE IMDb
7,6/10
2,9 k
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Scum (1991)
CriminalitéDrame

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueThis is the hard and shocking story of life in a British borstal for young offenders. The brutal regime made no attempt to reform or improve the inmates and actively encouraged a power strug... Tout lireThis is the hard and shocking story of life in a British borstal for young offenders. The brutal regime made no attempt to reform or improve the inmates and actively encouraged a power struggle between the 'tough' new inmate and the 'old hands'.This is the hard and shocking story of life in a British borstal for young offenders. The brutal regime made no attempt to reform or improve the inmates and actively encouraged a power struggle between the 'tough' new inmate and the 'old hands'.

  • Réalisation
    • Alan Clarke
  • Scénario
    • Roy Minton
  • Casting principal
    • Ray Winstone
    • David Threlfall
    • Martin Phillips
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,6/10
    2,9 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Alan Clarke
    • Scénario
      • Roy Minton
    • Casting principal
      • Ray Winstone
      • David Threlfall
      • Martin Phillips
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    • 9avis des critiques
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    Ray Winstone
    Ray Winstone
    • Carlin
    • (as Raymond Winstone)
    David Threlfall
    David Threlfall
    • Archer
    Martin Phillips
    • Davis
    Davidson Knight
    • Angel
    John Blundell
    John Blundell
    • Banks
    Phil Daniels
    Phil Daniels
    • Richards
    Ray Burdis
    Ray Burdis
    • Eckersley
    Patrick Murray
    Patrick Murray
    • Dougan
    Ian Sharrock
    • Rhodes
    Tony London
    • Woods
    Peter Kinley
    • Betts
    Sheridan Earl Russell
    • Jackson
    Colin Mayes
    • Sumner
    Trevor Butler
    • Toyne
    Philip DaCosta
    • Formby
    • (as Philip Da Costa)
    Peter Francis
    • Baldy
    Steven Butler
    • Other trainee
    Michael Deeks
    • Other trainee
    • Réalisation
      • Alan Clarke
    • Scénario
      • Roy Minton
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    Avis des utilisateurs10

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    Cardassian

    ...Got ya tool?

    Scum is a fabulously gritty borstal drama revolving around troublemaker Carlin (Winstone) and his campaign to do his time quietly. The menacing staff and inmates of the Borstal (young offenders prison) are frighteningly realistic and the whole film has the feel of a fly-on-the-wall documentary. Sporadic violence comes with no warning and the rape scene in the greenhouse is one of the most harrowing I have seen on film (may be cut in some versions). Full marks to Alan Clarke and Ray Minton for this beauty.
    8mulhollandman

    Hail Alan Clarke....................... King of Realism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Scum was originally apart of a trilogy that writer Roy Minton and Director Alan Clarke thought of whilst they were making Funny Farm in 1975. It consisted three films that focused individually on Police training, Army Training and Borstal. They approached a number of backers however it was deemed to costly to make therefore the idea was cancelled. However one backer did put up the money for one of these to be made. Clarke and Minton immediately went for Scum.

    The television version of Scum is probably the most famous TV movie to be made in great Britain. This is quite a feat because the vast majority of people will not have seen this TV movie. They will be more aware of the 1979 feature film version. Either way whatever one you see you will be left breathless and shocked at what unveils before our eyes over 78 mins this beautiful bounty runs.

    The story is set in one of her majesties Borstals in which underage criminals are dealt with. The lynch pin in the story manifests itself in the form of Carlin played to perfection by the ever wonderful Ray Winstone. Whose arrival at the Borstal from day one sends reverberations around the Borstals corridors because of his previous status as the Daddy in his last Borstal. He arrives with two other inmates Davis and Angel. Davis is instantly the target of bullies and Angel is abused through racial taunts because he is black. They are instantly greeted with physical and verbal abuse from the warders. As the film opens we meet the other trainees (inmates) and we begin to realize that they are far from the criminal hooligans that we would expect them to be. They are lost and vulnerable. They are abused by the people that are there to look after them. In all this comes the supporting character Archer played by David Threfall. An intellectual anarchist whose hours are passed pretending to be vegetarian and not wearing leather shoes on his feet. The Warders are portrayed as ruthless in bullying going so far as to show one of them watch on and let a rape continue.

    Alan Clarke established his notoriety with this TV Movie and he continued to provoke the audience with his further films. Clarke is a bona fide realist in my mind he portrays individuals who are thrown into extraordinary circumstances and he his never afraid to pull a punch to create the genuine feeling of realism in his films. Only Ken Loach and scotch director John Mac Kenzie have this effect. But Alan Clarke is in my favourite I have yet to see a film of his that does not effect me.

    The only problem I had with it was that it was not cast as well as the film version which has quality performances from non-actors. But all in all a bloody good show.
    7movieman_kev

    good but the theatrical movie is better

    Carlin (Ray Winstone of "Nil by mouth" and "Sexy Beast") is a young criminal who after assaulting a police officer gets sent to a borstal (juvinial prison), with two other youth offenders, where they find life inside hell with the authoritarian system brutal and the criminal inmate hierarchy equally, if not more so. They must find a way to survive. Carlin is able to climb the hierarchy, the other two are not really that 'lucky' This TV movie was shelved by the BBC1 for 14 years before before being shown on Channel 4 exactly once, and then only in honor of a deceased Alan Clarke. Gritty, and depressing if a slight bit overly sensationalized. Still it's interesting to watch even if the feature film version IS better. In response to the shelving of the film Clarke and writer Minton remade it as a theatrical film in two years later in 1979. This movie can be found in Blue Undergrounds Alan Clarke Collection.

    My Grade: B-

    DVD Extras: Commetary with actors Phil Daniels & David Threlfall, and Producer Margaret Matheson; 2 Selected scenes commentary by Ray Winstone (one of which wasn't in the film)
    6Theo Robertson

    I Thought The Film Version Was Better

    I'll try not to comment on the controversy of this television drama . Everyone knows it was banned by the BBC prior to being shown on its PLAY FOR TODAY slot in 1977 and it wasn't until the early 1990s that the BBC relented by showing it with little fanfare .

    Over all I thought the film version was better . Structure wise Roy Minton's script is more or less the same as the movie version with one added strand here where Carling is allowed to have a " wife " , in reality one of the younger prisoners , as a perk for being a daddy , a story strand that doesn't really work in my opinion . Director Alan Clarke would later re-employ nearly the entire cast for the movie version with the exception of Archer , and I couldn't thinking while watching the movie that Archer was written as a type of hippy . Here David Throfall plays Archer as .... A hippy . I don't want to criticise Mick Ford's performance in the movie but here we see the role played as it was written and is the superior version , but this is the only aspect where the original teleplay out scores the movie

    I think because the movie version can get away with so much more than a television drama ( At least one made in the 1970s ) this version isn't so gritty and compelling . The film includes extreme language in every scene which adds to the realism and as has been mentioned the infamous rape scene isn't as shocking and depressing as the one in the movie version so compared to the 1979 cinema release the original television drama might be something of a disappointment leading the viewer to ask what was the controversy about in the first place ?
    9Red-Barracuda

    Very worthwhile first version of Scum

    This is the TV version of the film, which was made for 'Play For Today' but was never screened until 1991, as it was deemed too controversial. It isn't as good as the movie version, which unsurprisingly was free to be even more uncompromising, yet it is still very similar plot-wise. Still very much an excellent watch and interesting to compare.

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    • Anecdotes
      Roy Minton originally envisioned Carlin as a Glaswegian. He cast Ray Winstone because of the way he walked.
    • Gaffes
      This film was actually released in 1991. The new dress code for the legal profession in England didn't come into effect until 2007. Judges and barristers still wear them for criminal cases. Archer's description of the magistrate would actually be factually correct.
    • Citations

      Formby: [In the self-help meeting] Why am I so far away from home Matron?

      Eckersley: Because you murdered that kid.

    • Versions alternatives
      There are differences between the TV and the theatrical version:
      • It is shown in 1.33:1 aspect ratio.
      • Any punches, slaps or kickings are muffled.
      • There is a scene with the 3 new arrivals having a bath in the TV version and not in the theatrical version. Davis complains about the water being too warm and gets slapped.
      • No strong language was used in the TV version.
      • Archer and Carlin talking to each other for the first time differs between the two versions. In the TV version, they talk to each other in the laundry whereas in the theatrical version, a changing room.
      • Banks bullying Davis is slightly different. In the tv version Banks grabs Davis and slaps him and tells him that he is the daddy here and pays his dues like the rest. When Davis says he doesn't smokes, Banks slaps him again. In the theatrical version, he does something similar but kicks Davis as he stood up and shoves him back onto the bench.
      • In the TV version, Davis getting bullied again. Richards pours hot tea on him and Mr. Sands shouts at Davis for being a slob.
      • The TV version omits a scene with Archer talking to the Matron about vetos on books.
      • In the TV version, Mr Greaves asks Carlin about his bruised face. The theatrical version is similar but Mr Sands asks Carlin about his face.
      • The TV version omits Meakin asks the Matron when is she going to call them by their first names.
      • Bank's beating by Carlin is similar in both versions. In the tv version, Carlin dunks Bank's head in the sink and hits him a few times and calmly declares himself the new daddy. He finally kicks kicks him once in the groin. The theatrical is similar but Carlin is more angrier.
      • Baldy's beating by Carlin is fairly brief. The sound effect when Carlin beats him with the pipe is muffled.
      • Toyne's suicide is deleted in the TV version.
      • There is a brief scene with Archer painting "I am happy" on a wall. This is not in the TV version
      • Carlin's homosexual relationship with another inmate is in the TV version.
      • Davis' rape is brief and non graphic compared to the graphic and prolonged film version. His suicide is not as graphic as the theatrical version.
      • After the riots, Carlin is taken to the punishment block and beaten up. The theatrical version is similar but more graphic.
      • The credits has music unlike the theatrical version.
    • Connexions
      Referenced in Neverwhere (1996)
    • Bandes originales
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      Written by Rick Lloyd

      Performed by The Amazing Mike Kahn Band

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 27 juillet 1991 (Royaume-Uni)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Royaume-Uni
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Отбросы
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Redhill, Londres, Angleterre, Royaume-Uni
    • Société de production
      • British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)
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    • Budget
      • 125 000 £GB (estimé)
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    • Durée
      1 heure 15 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.33 : 1

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