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Les amants éternels

Titre original : Forever Mine
  • 1999
  • R
  • 1h 52min
NOTE IMDb
5,3/10
2,9 k
MA NOTE
Ray Liotta, Joseph Fiennes, and Gretchen Mol in Les amants éternels (1999)
CrimeDramaRomanceThriller

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueAn affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.An affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.An affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.

  • Réalisation
    • Paul Schrader
  • Scénario
    • Paul Schrader
  • Casting principal
    • Joseph Fiennes
    • Ray Liotta
    • Gretchen Mol
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,3/10
    2,9 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Paul Schrader
    • Scénario
      • Paul Schrader
    • Casting principal
      • Joseph Fiennes
      • Ray Liotta
      • Gretchen Mol
    • 52avis d'utilisateurs
    • 16avis des critiques
    • 44Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 1 nomination au total

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    Rôles principaux33

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    Joseph Fiennes
    Joseph Fiennes
    • Manuel Esquema…
    Ray Liotta
    Ray Liotta
    • Mark Brice
    Gretchen Mol
    Gretchen Mol
    • Ella Brice
    Vincent Laresca
    Vincent Laresca
    • Javier Cesti
    Myk Watford
    Myk Watford
    • Rick Martino
    Lindsey Connell
    • Stewardess
    Sean Cw Johnson
    Sean Cw Johnson
    • Randy
    • (as Sean C W Johnson)
    Shawn Proctor
    • Cabana Boy
    Russell Blackwell
    • Business Associate
    Jocelyn Snowdon
    • Young Associate's Companion
    Kevi Katsuras
    • Julie, Six Year-old Girl
    Shannon Lawson
    • Emily, Julie's Mother
    Ronald Knight
    Ronald Knight
    • Older Male Executive
    Ginger King
    • Older Male's Companion
    Ted Simonett
    • Mr. Galen
    Paulette Sinclair
    • Mrs. Galen
    Robert Dodds
    • Priest
    Scott Wickware
    Scott Wickware
    • 1st Plainclothesman
    • Réalisation
      • Paul Schrader
    • Scénario
      • Paul Schrader
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    5Scoopy

    Oscar-worthy cinematography lost in the shuffle

    Forever Mine is not a good movie. Many other reviewers on this site have pointed out why.

    But let's give credit where credit is due.

    Cinematographer John Bailey did a magnificent, Oscar-worthy job on this film! It looks great. The first half takes place in Miami in 1973. I lived in Miami in the early 70's, and this film caught the feel of it so beautifully that I could smell the Cafe Cubano, hear the Jai-Alai cheers, and feel the sea breezes. The pastels, the faded glory of the hotels, the neon lights, the whole palette.

    John Bailey can't be blamed for Forever Mine's script, or its legal problems, but the result of those problems must have been depressing for him because nobody ever saw Bailey's work projected on the big screen after the film festivals. That's really a shame. This film was meant to be projected in a 2.35 aspect ratio, and that simply can't be appreciated anywhere except a big screen. Of course, Bailey didn't know it would go straight-to-cable-and-DVD when he filmed it in that super widescreen ratio.

    By the way, this work was no isolated fluke for Mr. Bailey, as you might guess. He has never won an Oscar, or even a nomination, but he's shot some very fine films in his career. He probably should have been nominated for an Oscar for his work on The Big Chill, and he has shot some terrific offbeat stuff, like Cat People and Groundhog Day.

    So, a strong "well done" for Mr Bailey, for work that few people will ever see.
    6=G=

    An under-hyped, under-rated love it or hate it B-flick sleeper

    "Forever Mine" is a somewhat flawed telling of an interesting and unpredictable love triangle story which is built around a solid core cast of under-rated actors (Fiennes, Mol, and Liotta). The film, which takes place over 17 years during which a Florida cabana boy struggles with an evil politician for possession of his wife, begins as a romantic melodrama and turns into a darkly obsessive war of wills. "Forever Mine" suffers from low budget appurtenances (music, sets, props, etc); an uneven flow which runs in the beginning and crawls through the middle; and an unnecessary murder which serves little purpose; etc. Those who can overlook the ragged edges of the film will be rewarded by some excellent performances and an evocative and compelling drama while, as the extremes of IMDB.com's users' perspectives indicate, the more analytical viewers will react quite the opposite. An earnest and interesting love it or hate it sleeper.
    1christo_dop

    Painful. One of the worst I've seen this year

    I saw this film at the Telluride Film Festival. People were walking out, but I stuck it out. Wish I hadn't. Shlocky story, contrived and boring characters. The only thing mildly interesting was to see the revenge plot play out and that was a disapointment as well. Pass on this one.
    keenanchris

    The best comedy of the year!

    I watched this film at the Torun camerimage festival in Poland.The whole audience was in stitches, which would have been fine except this was supposed to be a romance. How a renowned scriptwriter like Paul Schrader managed to come up with such bunkum is unfathomable! Watching it reminded me of the scene in Singing in the Rain, where the audience is in uproar at the unsynchronised sound. The whole experience was surreal! I promise you, you won't see a bigger turkey than this all year - Ed Wood would have been proud of it!
    d_fienberg

    Slow and largely uninvolving Romantic Drama

    There is a mystery at the heart of Forever Mine, the most recent downturn in writer-director Paul Schrader's roller coaster of a career. The mystery involves a man in the first class section of an airplane to New York, circa 1987. The man looks a little bit like Joseph Fiennes, but he is wearing a goofy make-up job to imply scarring and he is speaking with a goofy accent to add intrigue. And thus the mystery can be summed up with a series of questions: Who? Who is this man? What? What is he going to New York to do, dressed as a drug dealer? And Why? Why would anybody cast Joseph Fiennes for a part that required acting? Sure, Fiennes is perfectly skilled at looking soulful, but anything beyond that -- accent, characterization, etc -- is out of his range.

    We cut quickly from the plane to "14 years earlier" where we see Fiennes again, now much younger. We know he's younger because he isn't scarred and he doesn't have a goatee. He also isn't speaking with a thick Cuban accent anymore. He has a strange accent that waffles between British, "American," and "Latino." Fiennes is Alan, a cabana boy at a Miami resort. His friend Javier is trying to convince him that he should enter the drug game to make some real money. But Alan has clearly seen DePalma's Scarface, Blow, and a number of other drug movies and he has more legitimate dreams, starting, apparently, with bedding the wife (Gretchen Mol) of a New York businessman (Ray Liotta). Alan and the wife, Ella, begin perhaps the most public affair in cinema history. They make out down the beach from her husband, they get all kissy at local bars, and then have emotional conversations outside her hotel room. And the husband doesn't find out. But then it's time for the couple leave, but soulful Fiennes cannot let Ella go. We're not really sure why, though. As a character, she's a total cypher. Schrader gives her one or two expositional confessional moments, but that's about it.

    So of course the relationship is at least temporarily doomed. But in Schrader's universe we knew that before Alan and Ella even kissed, because we know that she's Catholic and that guilt and morality will quickly come into play. As with several other Schrader works, religious fervor is the central plot device, which leads to Alan's deformity, Ella's regret, and the film's film act.

    Beyond the Catholicism, though, there's not much at stake in Forever Mine. The two leads have minimal chemistry and the film is plagued by constant continuity errors and cliched plotting. I was troubled by the fact that the 14 years between the flashback and the framing device had done nothing to age any of characters. And I was perplexed by the fact that even though Alan's friend Javier starts out as the the man with the connections, he ends up as a glorified servant. I didn't understand why Schrader couldn't be bothered to develop either Ella's character or that of her husband. And I was just annoyed by Fiennes's inconsistantcy as an actor.

    Schrader seems to be having fun with his own background and the backgrounds of his actors. There appear to be obvious references to Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, while Fiennes's 1987 persona has a strange similarity to Robert DeNiro. And all of the elements seemed to have been in place for a fine film. This was Schrader's follow-up to the minor masterpiece Affliction and Fiennes's follow-up to Shakespeare in Love. It was also Mol's first starring role after Vanity Fair jumped the gun and made her an "It" Girl shortly before the release of several small parts. But really nothing comes together. Schrader plots an affair without any twists or originality beside the Catholic guilt that have always fueled his violent Graham Greene-esque visions. The political context that justifies the period setting is hardly worth the effort. The drug subplot goes nowhere. And when Ella sits reading Madame Bovary to a group of senior citizens, the symbolism is just infantile.

    Forever Mine never was released in theaters because the company producing it went under. It premiered on Starz! and moved to video. It's hard to imagine it having any real box office potential under any circumstances. This film is a 3/10 at best.

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    • Anecdotes
      Patrick Swayze was at one point attached to the role Joseph Fiennes plays in this movie. But he had seconds thoughts shortly before filming because he didn't think he could ''pull it off.'' Schrader did not insist on him taking the role as he thought that if Swayze didn't think he could pull it off, he ''probably wouldn't be able to.''
    • Gaffes
      Alan works at the Don Cesar hotel which is prominently shown in the film and he has a figure of the hotel with its name on it in his room at McCleans in NY. The water by the hotel is called the ocean by many people and Ray Liotta is seen taking a boat to Bimini. This leaves the impression that the hotel is near Miami in Key Biscayne, but in reality it is near Tampa on the Gulf of Mexico (not the Atlantic Ocean) and a day trip to Bimini from there is out of the question.
    • Citations

      Manuel Esquema: Everything has a purpose. Everybody has a purpose. It is my purpose to be with Ella. Nothing can change that; not you, not the police, not the courts. It's just a fact. Like... like plants turning to the Sun, or death, or taxes.

      Mark Brice: What is this gibberish? Are you crazy? Nobody talks like this. Make sense!

      Manuel Esquema: People are afraid to say what they feel. Ella is afraid.

      Mark Brice: I'm not afraid to say what I feel. There's two types of people in this world; assholes and pricks. You're an asshole. And I'm a prick. Do the math. Ella's mine.

    • Crédits fous
      [prologue] "It is the addition of strangeness to beauty that constitutes the romantic character in art". - Walter Pater.
    • Connexions
      References Taxi Driver (1976)
    • Bandes originales
      Forever Mine
      Written by Angelo Badalamenti, Julia Taylor-Stanley and James Shearman

      Performed by Shana

      Published by Anlon Music Co.

      Warner Chappell and A&E Copyright

      Arranged by James Shearman and Nick Raine

      Produced by Julia Taylor-Stanley

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    • Date de sortie
      • 4 octobre 2002 (Espagne)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Royaume-Uni
      • Canada
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Eternal Lovers
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Don Cesar Hotel - 3400 Gulf Boulevard, Saint-Pétersbourg, Floride, États-Unis(hotel scenes at the beginning)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Forever Mine (UK) Limited
      • J&M Entertainment
      • Moonstar Entertainment
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      • 17 000 000 $US (estimé)
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      • Dolby SR
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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