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La Seconde Guerre de sécession

Titre original : The Second Civil War
  • Téléfilm
  • 1997
  • Tous publics
  • 1h 37min
NOTE IMDb
6,6/10
2,5 k
MA NOTE
Dan Hedaya, Beau Bridges, Denis Leary, and Phil Hartman in La Seconde Guerre de sécession (1997)
Dark ComedySatireComedyDrama

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.A simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.A simple immigration issue spins wildly out of control for those involved, ranging from the President of the United States, to a news producer.

  • Réalisation
    • Joe Dante
  • Scénario
    • Martyn Burke
  • Casting principal
    • Beau Bridges
    • Joanna Cassidy
    • Phil Hartman
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,6/10
    2,5 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Joe Dante
    • Scénario
      • Martyn Burke
    • Casting principal
      • Beau Bridges
      • Joanna Cassidy
      • Phil Hartman
    • 25avis d'utilisateurs
    • 12avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompensé par 1 Primetime Emmy
      • 2 victoires et 3 nominations au total

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    Beau Bridges
    Beau Bridges
    • Gov. Jim Farley
    Joanna Cassidy
    Joanna Cassidy
    • Helena Newman
    Phil Hartman
    Phil Hartman
    • The President
    James Earl Jones
    James Earl Jones
    • Jim Kalla
    James Coburn
    James Coburn
    • Jack Buchan
    Dan Hedaya
    Dan Hedaya
    • Mel Burgess
    Elizabeth Peña
    Elizabeth Peña
    • Christina
    Denis Leary
    Denis Leary
    • Vinnie Franko
    Ron Perlman
    Ron Perlman
    • Alan Manieski
    Kevin Dunn
    Kevin Dunn
    • Jimmy Cannon
    Shelley Malil
    Shelley Malil
    • Congressman Singh
    Brian Keith
    Brian Keith
    • Maj. Gen. Charles Buford
    Kevin McCarthy
    Kevin McCarthy
    • Chief of Staff
    Dick Miller
    Dick Miller
    • Eddie O'Neill
    William Schallert
    William Schallert
    • Secretary of Defense
    Catherine Lloyd Burns
    Catherine Lloyd Burns
    • Amelia Sims
    Jerry Hardin
    Jerry Hardin
    • Col. McNally
    Larry Flash Jenkins
    Larry Flash Jenkins
    • Kenya Nkomo
    • Réalisation
      • Joe Dante
    • Scénario
      • Martyn Burke
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    bob the moo

    Interesting but rather obvious and neither as funny nor as clever as it needed to be

    It is the near future and a nuclear attack on Pakistan from India has left millions as refugees. As a planeload of orphans leaves for America, the Governor of Idaho declares Idaho's borders shut to immigrants. With one eye on the opinion poles, the President of the United States reacts with a strong hand and gives the Governor 67.5 hours to change his mind (thus avoiding a ratings clashing with a popular soap opera on a non-news channel). As a news network tries to engineer the best view of the action, events spiral out of control with racial tension being triggered in Texas and Los Angeles.

    I do not know which film came first but in 1997 this film was put out on TV at around the same time as Wag the Dog was released. Wag was a superb film that was very sharp and funny and it is to this film's detriment that it is very easy to compare the two. Although the plots are different they both satirise the media's influence on politics and politics' concern with image and winning votes and do so with a big cast and a mix of tension and laughs.

    However it is not as well carried off here as it was in Wag The Dog and it gets bogged down in rather sappy and obvious messages about acceptance of one another. In some way this is pointed out in funny ways such as Congressman Singh having a deep south accent, the Governor eating Mexican food for breakfast and in love with a Mexican woman; but too often it is obvious and a little sappy. This takes away its intelligence and makes it feel less clever than it really should be to be as sharp a satire as it clearly wants to be. On the flipside of this the film isn't nearly as funny as it should be – it has the occasional really funny bit (James Coburn suggesting that the Irish can be taken off birth control to outbreed the other races and thus win votes was akin to some of Dr Strangelove for my money!) but generally it is not as funny as it really should be.

    However I still really enjoyed it and felt it was both clever and funny and even if too much of it wasn't up to the standard of really good satire, it is still worth seeing. The cast echoes the ensemble feel of Wag The Dog even if it lacks a couple of really big names in the way Wag did. None of them really dominate the film or really stand out, instead they seem happy to share the lines and the screentime without overplaying – only Coburn really goes for it and makes a good impression on the film. Having said that the majority do OK with what little they have and it is hard to ignore a cast that features so many famous faces. CoBurn is great even if Hartman, surprisingly, fails to make much of an impact. Bridges but lumbered with much of the 'message' in later stages, Jones is worth seeing although it is Hedaya and Perlman who dominate the newsroom scenes. Leary makes the bridge between this and Wag and the rest of the cast features all manner of faces including Elizabeth Peña, Dick Miller, Kevin Dunn and Kevin McCarthy.

    Overall this is a good film but not as good as it should have been; for my money satire needs to be funny and clever and, while this manages to be both at times, it is not as consistent as it really should have been. It gets bogged down in the message and it loses it's edge when it really should be getting stronger and sharper. It is by no means as good as Wag the Dog but it is still worth a look as, although not consistent it is still interesting in its comments and is sporadically funny and clever.
    10sterhill-1

    brilliant movie banned by HBO?

    This movie was an original film made by HBO and was shown in 1997 and then disappeared.

    Why? Too many un-PC remarks is my guess. At one point Dan Hedaya (head of the CNN look-alike NetworkNews) yells that somebody needs to get the White House on the phone "unless Tokyo has foreclosed on it!". The story is brilliantly created and the cast is amazing.

    Look at the cast and ask yourself how this film could just disappear.

    The mayor of Los Angeles is giving a speech, and the newsroom is frantically looking for a translator. But NOT to translate into Spanish. No, to translate HIS speech into English.

    I say shame on HBO for letting this film slide into oblivion, You can still find it, used, on VHS but it never went to DVD. You cannot buy it from HBO.

    You gotta ask yourself why... Edited to add - now on DVD if you can find it.
    8NateWatchesCoolMovies

    Brilliant, criminally overlooked satire

    Joe Dante's brilliant, stinging political satire The Second Civil War was awarded a pitifully limited cable release on HBO instead of the wide distribution it deserves, and I think that may have something to do with the fact that it hit a bit too close to home for some people with scarily accurate portrayal of the thoroughly idiotic state of mind that is present in every aspect of American politics. Come to think of it, the film was really prophetic when I think of how mangled things are in our neighbours disillusioned abode. Dante is a director who usually sticks to gooey fantasy/horror/comedy such as Gremlins or The Burbs, but here he ventures into the real world, without losing an ounce of his comic streak. There's trouble brewing stateside when renegade Idaho Governor Jim Farley (daft Beau Bridges) announces that he's closing his state's borders to immigrants, conveniently right at the time when Mexican refugees are scheduled to be brought in. This causes an uproar across the land as his immature antic catch the attention many different key players across the board. Ironically, he's shagging a sexy Mexican publicist (Elizabeth Pena, RIP) who is appalled with his behaviour. The frustrated US President (Phil Hartman) sends dapper 'fixer' Jack Buchan (James Coburn nails the darkly odd tone) who finds himself in over his head. Suddenly the Governor mobilizes troops to secure the state border, and schit gets real when the President retaliates by stationing forces of his own surrounding Idaho. The country seems to be on the brink of a ridiculous yet very plausible conflict of 'civil' proportions. Tension gets widespread when a hotshot New Network CEO (Dan Hedaya) and his drastic right hand man (Ron Perlman) send rogue report Denis Leary to cover the story. There's also additions to the unbelievably good cast from James Earl Jones, Roger Corman, Brian Keith, Johanna Cassidy, Dick Miller and more. The comedic tone abruptly shifts to deadly serious as actual violence erupts and we know that the film means business as our laughs go up in tank smoke as we get uncomfortable at the mirror being held. It's satire, it's fun but it's also a warning at the dangers of impulsive decision making and uneducated lunacy. At heart it's a comedy though, and a criminally overlooked one at that.
    7theanomaloushost

    Best political satire since Wag the Dog

    Talk about biting political satire that's probably the most effective thing since Wag the Dog. There's this made for HBO film that came out in 1997 titled The Second Civil War. Like many of the decent films of that decade, it takes shots at all sides (it might lean a little more to the left than the right, but only a little, which is quite refreshing), takes aim at politicians and the media, and begs the question at how good of an idea the Melting Pot and forced immigration really is (it tackles those issues in more directions than you're used to). And it ends on a somewhat dreary (yet provides a decent last laugh) note that doesn't provide any answers, at least no easy ones, leaving it up to the viewer to ponder. God I miss the days when they wouldn't bash a blunt message over your head.
    7WylieJJordan

    Timely political farce

    A funny, old-fashioned political farce set in an up-to-the-minute situation. An aggressive woman who heads an organization to "save the children" plans to move Pakistani orphans to Idaho. The governor of that state (Beau Bridges) decides to play to anti-immigrant sentiment by saying he will close the borders against further immigration.

    The American President (Phil Hartman) is a simpleton who managed by his political adviser (James Coburn). They're only interested in re-election, and are perfectly willing to resort to civil war to make it happen.

    A CNN-like news organization, "NN", which employs a rainbow of immigrants, and whose announcer is James Earl Jones, plays the potential conflict for all the advertising dollars it's worth.

    The governor (Beau Bridges) is really much more interested in his affair with a Mexican American reporter for "NN", and she seems to be the only person aware of the irony.

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    • Anecdotes
      Joe Dante has said this is the best film he's made and the best cast he worked with.
    • Citations

      Governor of Idaho: I'm getting tired of all this moral high ground stuff. I prefer rolling around in the muck; you meet more interesting people there.

    • Connexions
      Featured in The 49th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards (1997)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 15 mars 1997 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Espagnol
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La deuxième guerre civile
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Los Angeles City Hall - 200 North Spring Street, Downtown, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Baltimore Pictures
      • HBO Films
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