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Forgotten Silver

  • Téléfilm
  • 1995
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  • 53min
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Forgotten Silver (1995)
BurlesqueSatireComédie

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueThe film deals with the career of a supposedly forgotten pioneer of international cinema, Colin McKenzie, who was allegedly born in rural New Zealand in 1888.The film deals with the career of a supposedly forgotten pioneer of international cinema, Colin McKenzie, who was allegedly born in rural New Zealand in 1888.The film deals with the career of a supposedly forgotten pioneer of international cinema, Colin McKenzie, who was allegedly born in rural New Zealand in 1888.

  • Réalisation
    • Costa Botes
    • Peter Jackson
  • Scénario
    • Peter Jackson
    • Costa Botes
  • Casting principal
    • Peter Jackson
    • Jeffrey Thomas
    • Costa Botes
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  • NOTE IMDb
    7,4/10
    6,5 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Costa Botes
      • Peter Jackson
    • Scénario
      • Peter Jackson
      • Costa Botes
    • Casting principal
      • Peter Jackson
      • Jeffrey Thomas
      • Costa Botes
    • 58avis d'utilisateurs
    • 37avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    • Récompenses
      • 2 victoires et 1 nomination au total

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    Rôles principaux23

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    Peter Jackson
    Peter Jackson
    • Self
    Jeffrey Thomas
    Jeffrey Thomas
    • Narrator
    • (voix)
    Costa Botes
    • Self - Film Maker
    Leonard Maltin
    Leonard Maltin
    • Self - Film Historian
    Sam Neill
    Sam Neill
    • Self - Actor & Director
    Harvey Weinstein
    Harvey Weinstein
    • Self - Miramax Films
    Johnny Morris
    • Self - Film Archivist
    • (as Jonathon Morris)
    John O'Shea
    • Self
    Marguerite Hurst
    • Self
    Lindsay Shelton
    • Self
    Beatrice Ashton
    • Hannah McKenzie
    • (non crédité)
    Peter Corrigan
    • Stan the Man
    • (non crédité)
    Julie Holmes
    • Market girl Extra
    • (non crédité)
    Paul Kingdom
    Paul Kingdom
    • Farmer
    • (non crédité)
    • …
    Isaac D Lucas
    Isaac D Lucas
    • Policeman
    • (non crédité)
    Charlie McClellan
    • Soldier firing machine gun in Gallipolli
    • (non crédité)
    Sarah McLeod
    Sarah McLeod
    • May Belle
    • (non crédité)
    • …
    George Port
    • Undertermined role
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Costa Botes
      • Peter Jackson
    • Scénario
      • Peter Jackson
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    9paston

    What is real anyway?

    Documentary is all about taking real life and shaping it into a story. 'Forgotten Silver' suggests that real part doesn't even have to be real, as long as the story's good.

    I watched this again tonight - probably the 4th or 5th time I've seen it since it was first screened as an (allegedly) true doco back in 1996. Despite knowing the whole thing was cod, I was quite surprised to find tears in my eyes as NZ pioneer film-maker Colin McKenzie accidentally filmed his own death in Spain, so drawn was I into the story.

    Once you strip away the hype over the hoax factor, what's left is just a great story about a struggling film maker facing and almost overcoming insurmountable obstacles to create a work of mad genius. Anyone expecting belly laughs from 'Forgotten Silver' is probably going to be disappointed, because viewed as a story, this isn't a comedy - it's a tragedy. It's no wonder so many people were sucked into believing it when it first screened - the Colin McKenzie saga has an emotional depth which is heartbreaking.

    Bonus points for a brilliant musical score, some superb technical effects (especially the corroded, bubbling, self-destructing nitrate film; most filmmakers would have settled for a couple of cliché tramlines to make the footage look old), and the gorgeous Thomas Robbins as Colin McKenzie.
    9taita

    Best kept secret

    I vividly remember the first time I watched this movie. The lead up to the finding of the old films was without any obvious clues, so it wasn't 'til the Richard Pearse footage that we became seriously suspicious. My husband is a forensic photographer so the digital imaging to get the date off the newspaper was a dead giveaway to us. The eleventy seven dozen eggs was another big pointer. From then on we treated the whole thing as a lark and just revelled in the imagination that is Peter Jackson's trade mark.

    We were of course, greatly impressed with the enormity of the project and could only surmise that the actors in the "Salome" movie were also conned into thinking they were filming a real movie and didn't know the truth until the 'doco' came out. Either that or Peter Jackson has a loyal entourage that kept a secret which could never have survived in any Hollywood arena.

    I look forward to even more of Peters work.....
    zmaturin

    Very, very good.

    This hour-long documentary details the amazing work of the nearly unknown Colin McKenzie, the first man to film movies with sound or in color. He documented the first man to ever fly (before the Wright Brothers, even!) and filmed a biblical epic on a massive set he built single handedly in the mountainous forests of New Zealand. So why haven't you heard of him? It might be because most people are biased against New Zealand film-makers, or it could be because this movie is entirely fictitious.

    The very real, very brilliant director Peter Jackson fashioned this very funny and touching film for New Zealand television, and it's worth checking out for many reasons. First of all, it's technically amazing- the vintage film scenes are very convincing and well thought out. Second of all, the movie is very funny, including the hilarious antics of Stan the Man, a mean spirited prankster who is kind of like Tom Green, only much less annoying because he's silent. Finally, this movie has real heart, and gets you to care about the eccentric MacKenzie. As a bonus, this movie also features (an was co-conceived by) the guy from "Bad Taste" who threw the pine cone at Derik.

    This movie is kind of hard to find, but well worth hunting down, especially if you are a fan of Jackson's work (and everyone should be).
    10msz

    A wonderful movie about the movies

    This film could've been made only by someone with a deep love of cinema : an homage to movies, coming from the heart. It's just too bad that Colin McKenzie didn't live to see his work being appreciated ...

    Come to tink of it: it's just too bad that Colin didn't live at all. What a loss!
    film-critic

    No CGI is needed to see the imagination and brilliance behind this visionary...

    To fully appreciate this film, you must consider two things. First, this is a MOCumentary. It is not a real story, but instead something created through the imagination of a very rich storyteller. Second, this film was released to the general New Zealand public without them knowing that this was a mocumentary and they completely felt that it was a real occurrence. They took the bait … hook, line, and sinker. It reminded me of the fear that Orson Welles was able to conjure when he did 'The War of the Worlds' broadcast in 1938. Welles was able to create a mythological occurrence that was packaged so well that audiences bought it. This is the same with Peter Jackson's creation, Forgotten Silver. Jackson's attention to detail and excitement behind this project is seen with every digitized photo, every sound bite, and every word of the story.

    The great idea behind mocumentaries is that you have the opportunity to create a world from the ground up. I think this was an aspect that I thoroughly enjoyed about this picture was every creative angle that Jackson took with his characters. They were flawed, but in a good way. They were real, yet in a sense very cartoonish. They gave you this dream about life that is normally missing in most films, yet these guys were never alive for you to believe in. It was funny how deeply rooted you could become with this film until you had to pull yourself away and say that it was just a work of fiction. For anyone to say that about a film means that the filmmaker is doing a spectacular job. The only director that I can think of that closely able to pull this off today is Christopher Guest, but even in his work you can tell that it is a mocumentary from the beginning. Jackson never gives you the opportunity to find the truth. Everything he hands to you has been researched and tested giving us the chance to believe in our man Colin throughout all of it.

    Perhaps what I am trying to say here is that Jackson doesn't just create a story, he creates a world filled with emotion and chaos. It is easy to create a story, books are released everyday, but to put visuals with this story AND build a main character that the average Joe can relate to is much harder. While only pushing 60 minutes, Jackson had quite a bit of work on his hands. This was not an easy project. Jackson not only had to play director, but also put himself into the film that I think only helped build the mirage of truth. You kept forgetting that he created this story, yet was in it himself. It honestly takes away that feeling of cinematic rubbish that Hollywood releases daily and builds a true story.

    The interventions between Harvey Weinstein, Sam Neill, and Leonard Maltin only help build more of that 'truth' to the film. You hear these men from the industry talk about this fictitious man named Colin McKenzie, you begin to believe that perhaps he was alive and Jackson is just trying to tell the truth.

    While I have spoken heavily about the amazing fake factoids that Jackson disperses through the film, what I found funny was the type of humor that Jackson placed intermittently throughout the film. The idea of Stan the Man is brilliant and his 'Rodney King' moment proved that it is always possible for history to repeat itself. The jail time that Colin faced due to his 'smut' film had me rolling in my seat. The exuberant size of the extras needed for this film kept me smiling throughout. There was just something about this humor that made me excited about my educational background.

    Finally, I would like to say that the fact that the New Zealand public never realized that it was a mocumentary should already prove the worthiness of this film. I do not see why it didn't receive more press than it did, but this has been the biggest film enjoyment of the week. I remember a line from a film that went something like this, 'The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist'. Think of this line as you witness Jackson's film Forgotten Silver. It will make you curious.

    Overall, I thought that this film was beautiful. Midway through this film you will loose track of reality and think that you are watching a true documentary, and that is when you can realize that you have a master director giving you a perfect 'gem'. This was not a film filled with violence and annoying Gollems, but instead cunning wit and satire. Jackson continually proves that he can handle so much more than just The Lord of the Rings with this film. No CGI is needed to see the imagination and brilliance behind this visionary. For those of you that are huge Lord of the Rings fans, you may not enjoy it as much, but for me this was Jackson in his truest form.

    Bravo!

    Grade: ***** out of *****

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    • Anecdotes
      This was originally screened as a genuine documentary to an unsuspecting New Zealand public, and was only revealed to be a hoax a few days afterwards.
    • Gaffes
      The film implies that Colin invented the close-up around 1912, but the earliest close-ups date from around 1903, nine years earlier.
    • Crédits fous
      The hoax of this film is carried on into the credits. Cast members Beatrice Ashton (Hannah McKenzie) and Sarah McLeod (Mae Belle) are credited as Research Assistants. Other bit players are credited as research assistants, production advisers, and are otherwise given phony credits.
    • Connexions
      Edited from Dewars Scotch Whiskey (1897)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 3 octobre 1997 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Nouvelle-Zélande
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Cantonais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • La verdadera historia del cine
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Nouvelle-Zélande
    • Sociétés de production
      • New Zealand Film Commission
      • New Zealand On Air
      • WingNut Films
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    • Budget
      • 650 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 26 459 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 1 740 $US
      • 5 oct. 1997
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 26 459 $US
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    • Durée
      • 53min
    • Couleur
      • Black and White
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.66 : 1

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