Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueReligious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.Religious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.Religious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.
Marley Shelton
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This movie was the worst example of what really happened. The other persons comment really angers me. 80 men, women and children were burned alive by our government. Several years later it surfaced that the FED's really did launch incendiary devices at the Davidians church (compound labeled by the FED's to militarize the situation)I have seen the autopsy photos of the children and I cant tell you how much it brings tears to my eyes that no one has done anything to the ATF, FED and Military personal who are responsible. Keep harping on 9/11 and continue to close your eyes to what happen in Waco. I find it funny how the American Indians don't have a problem with believing what really happened in Waco but the rest of America cant seem to believe that our government would ever do such a terrible thing. Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Our government almost killed off an entire race of people (American Indians) and you find this hard to believe that it would murder 80 men, women and children?
If you want to know the truth about what really happened in Waco, TX between February 28th, 1993 and April 19th, 1993, this IS NOT the film to see. The writers claimed at the movie's beginning that this film was a result of "extensive research" concerning what happened, yet there is hardly any truth in nearly every scene in this film. It not only is a villification of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians but also a portrayal of the AFT as "brave heroes" who risked their lives so as to protect society from these dangerous lunatics. It fails to mention the point that the only reason that the AFT made the raid in the first place was because they had budget hearings pending and they needed a good publicity coup for those hearings.
The only error this film makes concerning the February 28th raid that is worth mentioning here is the fact that it omits the role of the helicopters in the raid. Anyone who has studied the facts of the raid knows that it was the helicopters who fired the first shots when they straffed the building. It was also one of the helicopters that, when making a straffing pass over the building, fired the shots the killed Peter Gent as he was climbing from out of the water tower. In this film, the Davidians (including some late-middle aged women) are shown to ambush the AFT as they approached the front door. It was too bad that millions of people formed their opinion concerning Koresh, his followers and the entire Waco incident from this piece of trash.
If someone really wants to know the truth of both Koresh and his followers and the entire incident from beginning to end, the best references are the books "The Ashes of Waco: An Investigation" by Dick J. Reavis and "A Place Called Waco" by David Thibodeau. Also, the video "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" is a excellent piece of documentary film making.
The only error this film makes concerning the February 28th raid that is worth mentioning here is the fact that it omits the role of the helicopters in the raid. Anyone who has studied the facts of the raid knows that it was the helicopters who fired the first shots when they straffed the building. It was also one of the helicopters that, when making a straffing pass over the building, fired the shots the killed Peter Gent as he was climbing from out of the water tower. In this film, the Davidians (including some late-middle aged women) are shown to ambush the AFT as they approached the front door. It was too bad that millions of people formed their opinion concerning Koresh, his followers and the entire Waco incident from this piece of trash.
If someone really wants to know the truth of both Koresh and his followers and the entire incident from beginning to end, the best references are the books "The Ashes of Waco: An Investigation" by Dick J. Reavis and "A Place Called Waco" by David Thibodeau. Also, the video "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" is a excellent piece of documentary film making.
This is quite a good movie, even though I remember it being started while the siege was still underway. The tension ratchets up throughout as we see Tim Daly do an excellent job as David Koresh ruling over his acolytes, alternately bullying and charismatic. He gives a convincing portrayal of a "sinful messiah" which certainly raised concerns in the straight-laced Baptist community of Waco, Texas. This is what initially attracted the attentions of various law enforcement agencies.
The interest of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is piqued, but never fully explained, as it is to this day. Both sides are then set on a course that ultimately leads to violence, leading up to the climactic attack of the Branch Davidian compound, which caps and concludes the movie. The siege and its fiery conclusion are not seen.
The movie doesn't portray Koresh as a frothing at the mouth religious fanatic but as a true believer in what he says. Thus, the viewer is left with the ambiguous feeling that he may not have deserved his fate. The ATF agents are never fleshed out and we don't feel any real sympathy for their deaths. We end up not totally understanding why this tragedy occurred, which is exactly how we felt then, as now.
Several up and comers appear in this film, including Neil McDonough (Band of Brothers and Medical Investigations) and NYPD Blue's Gordon Clapp. Lewis Smith is wasted as one of the slain ATF agents.
The interest of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is piqued, but never fully explained, as it is to this day. Both sides are then set on a course that ultimately leads to violence, leading up to the climactic attack of the Branch Davidian compound, which caps and concludes the movie. The siege and its fiery conclusion are not seen.
The movie doesn't portray Koresh as a frothing at the mouth religious fanatic but as a true believer in what he says. Thus, the viewer is left with the ambiguous feeling that he may not have deserved his fate. The ATF agents are never fleshed out and we don't feel any real sympathy for their deaths. We end up not totally understanding why this tragedy occurred, which is exactly how we felt then, as now.
Several up and comers appear in this film, including Neil McDonough (Band of Brothers and Medical Investigations) and NYPD Blue's Gordon Clapp. Lewis Smith is wasted as one of the slain ATF agents.
Historical accuracy: 8
Acting: 6 Dialogue: 7 Camera work: 7 Editing: 7 Budget: 7 Story: 6 Theme: 6 Pure entertainment factor: 7 Video quality: 5 Special effects: 7 Pacing: 7 Suspension of disbelief: 7 Non-cringe factor: 7 Lack of flashbacks: 10
My second In the Line of Duty movie. First one was great. This is a step down as expected, but I actually still enjoyed it so I will for sure watch them all. It is TV movie quality. You see this in the acting, the camera work, the editing. But it also creates a unique cozy feeling of the 90's. A bit more simplified movie making.
The tension remains high and they really double down on the evilness of the cult leader who had kids with underage girls and slept with the wives of his followers. Also here seen as forbidding anyone else to have sex altogether. Which of course makes you question how a man this mad and insane could be charismatic enough long enough to gain followers ready to off themselves for him. So maybe the movie goes a tad overboard with his depiction, but this is not a good guy. Imagine a person convincing his friends, both moms and dads, to let him impregnate their underage daughter. His depiction here going over the history and what he did is great.
We follow them as they collect weapons to prepare for the end. Fighting the evil outsiders somehow. FBI prepares to take the kids away and storm the complex and the Waco people return fire. I do think the Waco TV show is better. Higher budget, amazing acting, and some more developed tension. This movie basically shows us clips of what happened without explaining much. The movie for sure has 5 times as much info about the cult itself. Waco took the side of the cult leader. He was seen as unwilling to have sex, the underage stuff was ignored, basically nearly most negative stuff about the cult was hidden away and we saw FBI storm the compound as the evil guys just interested in media exposure. This movie on the other hand skips everything outside the compound to a degree where it feels simplified. And it ends with FBI storming the compound with bullets flying everywhere. That's like half the way into the full story. We still have the negotiation and fire. The fire is the big event here. We know the cult members set it, but the gas FBI shot into the building caused it to be a greater disaster killing most people inside. Even the kids that the cult on purpose locked inside a room they couldn't escape from. The ending really lets it down as it has none. The FBI storming the compound is also quite nonsense here and mostly fiction. But we kinda understand what happened in real life. Just overlook 90% of the bullets.
I recommend the TV show, but it's so extremely pro cult that it feels bad to recommend it alone. I could recommend this movie to people needing more info on the cult itself, but you can also watch a documentary for that. It's ... mediocre. You will not be bored and the one romance is great here, but with the low budget and too fast pace it feels like it doesn't quite tie it all together.
Acting: 6 Dialogue: 7 Camera work: 7 Editing: 7 Budget: 7 Story: 6 Theme: 6 Pure entertainment factor: 7 Video quality: 5 Special effects: 7 Pacing: 7 Suspension of disbelief: 7 Non-cringe factor: 7 Lack of flashbacks: 10
My second In the Line of Duty movie. First one was great. This is a step down as expected, but I actually still enjoyed it so I will for sure watch them all. It is TV movie quality. You see this in the acting, the camera work, the editing. But it also creates a unique cozy feeling of the 90's. A bit more simplified movie making.
The tension remains high and they really double down on the evilness of the cult leader who had kids with underage girls and slept with the wives of his followers. Also here seen as forbidding anyone else to have sex altogether. Which of course makes you question how a man this mad and insane could be charismatic enough long enough to gain followers ready to off themselves for him. So maybe the movie goes a tad overboard with his depiction, but this is not a good guy. Imagine a person convincing his friends, both moms and dads, to let him impregnate their underage daughter. His depiction here going over the history and what he did is great.
We follow them as they collect weapons to prepare for the end. Fighting the evil outsiders somehow. FBI prepares to take the kids away and storm the complex and the Waco people return fire. I do think the Waco TV show is better. Higher budget, amazing acting, and some more developed tension. This movie basically shows us clips of what happened without explaining much. The movie for sure has 5 times as much info about the cult itself. Waco took the side of the cult leader. He was seen as unwilling to have sex, the underage stuff was ignored, basically nearly most negative stuff about the cult was hidden away and we saw FBI storm the compound as the evil guys just interested in media exposure. This movie on the other hand skips everything outside the compound to a degree where it feels simplified. And it ends with FBI storming the compound with bullets flying everywhere. That's like half the way into the full story. We still have the negotiation and fire. The fire is the big event here. We know the cult members set it, but the gas FBI shot into the building caused it to be a greater disaster killing most people inside. Even the kids that the cult on purpose locked inside a room they couldn't escape from. The ending really lets it down as it has none. The FBI storming the compound is also quite nonsense here and mostly fiction. But we kinda understand what happened in real life. Just overlook 90% of the bullets.
I recommend the TV show, but it's so extremely pro cult that it feels bad to recommend it alone. I could recommend this movie to people needing more info on the cult itself, but you can also watch a documentary for that. It's ... mediocre. You will not be bored and the one romance is great here, but with the low budget and too fast pace it feels like it doesn't quite tie it all together.
The first review here was obviously wrote by someone who thinks that when Hollywood makes something they call a true story it must be all true. Watch the movie Ashes of Waco for actual facts on this issue. Granted Koresh claimed to be something he was not, this does not mean that this was a well executed plan by the ATF. Fact, the ATF could have arrested Koresh in town since he went there often. What we do have here is a Cliton era Janet Reno failure as usual. Do the research because this movie may try to capture the day many brave ATF agents lost there lives but it also slants the story to make sure you think that this was 100% the people of Mt Carmnels fault.
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- AnecdotesPhil Penningroth, who wrote the screenplay, has regretted his involvement with this movie in the years since its premiere.
- Citations
David Koresh: Everyone is so obsessed with politics and power.
- ConnexionsFeatured in The Gaming Historian: The Story of the ESRB (2016)
- Bandes originalesRise, Rise, Rise
Music & Lyrics by Mark Snow
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