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Wetherby

  • 1985
  • R
  • 1h 42min
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6,5/10
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Wetherby (1985)
The mysterious death of an enigmatic young man newly arrived in the suburb of Wetherby releases the long-repressed, dark passions of some of its residents.
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Un jeune inconnu se présente au domicile d'une enseignante célibataire et se suicide devant elle. Choquée par cet acte incompréhensible, elle tente de comprendre pourquoi ce jeune homme l'a ... Tout lireUn jeune inconnu se présente au domicile d'une enseignante célibataire et se suicide devant elle. Choquée par cet acte incompréhensible, elle tente de comprendre pourquoi ce jeune homme l'a choisie comme témoin de sa mort.Un jeune inconnu se présente au domicile d'une enseignante célibataire et se suicide devant elle. Choquée par cet acte incompréhensible, elle tente de comprendre pourquoi ce jeune homme l'a choisie comme témoin de sa mort.

  • Réalisation
    • David Hare
  • Scénario
    • David Hare
  • Casting principal
    • Vanessa Redgrave
    • Ian Holm
    • Judi Dench
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • David Hare
    • Scénario
      • David Hare
    • Casting principal
      • Vanessa Redgrave
      • Ian Holm
      • Judi Dench
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    • Nomination aux 1 BAFTA Award
      • 5 victoires et 2 nominations au total

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    Vanessa Redgrave
    Vanessa Redgrave
    • Jean Travers
    Ian Holm
    Ian Holm
    • Stanley Pilborough
    Judi Dench
    Judi Dench
    • Marcia Pilborough
    Marjorie Yates
    • Verity Braithwaite
    Tom Wilkinson
    Tom Wilkinson
    • Roger Braithwaite
    Penny Downie
    Penny Downie
    • Chrissie
    Brenda Hall
    • Landlady
    Marjorie Sudell
    • Lilly
    Patrick Blackwell
    Patrick Blackwell
    • Derek - Chrissie's Husband
    Joely Richardson
    Joely Richardson
    • Young Jean Travers
    Robert Hines
    • Jim Mortimer
    Katy Behean
    • Young Marcia
    Bert King
    • Mr. Mortimer
    Paula Tilbrook
    • Mrs. Mortimer
    Christopher Fulford
    Christopher Fulford
    • Arthur
    David Foreman
    • Young Malay
    Stephanie Noblett
    • Suzie Bannerman
    Richard Marris
    • Sir Thomas
    • Réalisation
      • David Hare
    • Scénario
      • David Hare
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    8lasttimeisaw

    a beguiling myth

    British renowned playwright David Hare's feature film debut, WETHERBY was bestowed with Golden Berlin Bear, an honor shared with Rainer Simon's THE WOMAN AND THE STRANGER in 1985.

    In the centre of the story is a mysterious suicidal case, a disaffected young man John Morgan (McInnerney) has shot himself in front of Jean Travers (Redgrave), a middle-aged high school teacher he contacts only one day earlier as an unbidden guest to her dinner party with her married friends. This premise sounds quite unrealistic in real life, but in Hare's text, everything has been subsumed into a symbolical existence, which leaves the narrative often fragmented, jump between present and past, before-or-after Morgan's blunt action, achieved by a rapid editing modus operandi. Ellipsis and lacunae, abrupt plot devices, implicit dialogues, those are the weapons in Hare's possession to challenge viewers' understanding and assimilation of the whole myth, which also renders his social criticism of its era unobtrusively rapier-like.

    The suicide's repercussions evoke Jean's buried memory of her youth (play by Redgrave's daughter Richardson, who is brilliantly elegant in her very early screen presence) in 1950s, when she lost her lover Jim (Hines) who volunteers to fight in British Malaya instigated by some airy-fairy nationalism. She never marries, her life has been perpetuated in the rut ever since, but Jean is not a disillusioned soul, she loves teaching and is beloved by her pupils, she enjoys the company of her friends, particularly, Marcia (Dench, who earns a baffling BAFTA nomination since she is barely required to do anything special here), her best friend since teenage years, and Stanley (Holm), Marcia's solicitor husband, he and Jean would meet in bars for some drink, have a tête-à-tête or simply enjoy the comforting silence.

    Yet, in the eyes of this reticent John Morgan, she shares the same loneliness that has afflicted on him for a long time, to a point he is mulling over the option of suicide, but again Hare's elusive approach only leaves hints, no exposition, we sees Morgan, a college student, follows Marcia with unrevealed motive and it is through her, his interest alights on Jean eventually, and Hare rebelliously disrupts the narrative thread with sporadic flashbacks until finally discloses what has happened between Jean and John that night, alone, and defiantly, that offers no direct satisfaction to audience either, but trickles of clues might or might not account for John's decision.

    The great Vanessa Redgrave, engages in a palpably compassionate rendition of Jean's weather- seasoned inscrutability spiked with a tinge of singular vim and vigor, there is a certain modernity in her character which makes her an almost indestructible entity, not even decades of loneliness, that's where she differs from John, she is a real trooper who admirably holds sway of her own life. Tim McInnerny (mostly remembered as Lord Percy in BLACK ADDER TV series), is consistently nuanced in his feature film debut, John's pain has never emerged from his blank veneer, but he intrigues our attention every time he materialises.

    Saddled with lugubrious dirges and symphonic longueur, WETHERBY is an oddly beguiling film, delving into the mystic vicissitude of human's mentality with its oblique syntax and an absolutely fascinating lead performer.
    9esyankow

    The record, set straight

    This is a great film. I just saw it for the first time. The comment above is completely wrong, however. I must set the record straight. The military scenes are not US soldiers, but rather a flashback for Vanessa Redgrave to a love lost. Royal Air Force, sir, in Malay. I whole-heartedly recommend the film. It has a great dramatic score. It also has tackles some real dark ideas about love and life. And it has a pace that doesn't exist anymore in many films, especially those with stars. Great performances from Ian Holm and Tom Wilkinson. Also a fine performance from a very young Joely Richardson (Vanessa Redgrave's daughter), who now stars on FX's Nip Tuck.
    9trpdean

    Heartbreaking

    I've always loved this movie deeply. I just watched it again for perhaps the sixth or seventh time. I fully agree with the Japanese reviewer that the mention of Nixon is in sympathy, not ridicule. His yearning to be loved by another, is very much meant as a parallel to the young and older Redgrave character - as well as to the young man at the dinner party.

    David Hare has a wonderful scene here that is very similar to the very end of Plenty - when we see Joely Richardson writing in her diary in 1947 or so (think of Plenty's flashback to Meryl Streep in 1944 or 1945 speaking to the French farmer). The scenes might be full of bathos - but gee, I was overwhelmed both times.

    This movie has much in common with other Hare ventures - movies like Strapless and Plenty, plays like Skylight and "Amy's View".

    Hare's deep sympathies are with the romantic, the compassionate, the sensitive, the foolhardy, the collective-minded and the lost. He is antipathetic toward the self-sufficient, the ambitious, the laconic, the individualistic, the successful. I only partly share his sympathy and his antipathy but he makes me appreciate his attitudes through dramas he creates with real living characters.

    Hare is sentimental in a nostalgic way, and can write wonderfully vivid, intelligent and lost protagonists. I think him a far more intelligent and better dramatist than such left-wingers as Mike Leigh or Ken Loach.

    Many of us will see much of ourselves in his protagonists' loneliness, our wonder at mistaken hopes from our past, and sense of our own frailties and faults as we grow older.

    Others speak of similarities to Pinter - I don't see them. Hare is more essentially romantic - even if he doesn't want to be - and I'd place him more with a Jacques Demy than with a Pinter-Mamet and their cold keen patterns of speech and behavior - though granted, he's more concerned with social and political background than Demy.

    This is essentially a sad movie about one who was once happy - and her wonder and self-realization about another sadder than she.

    This movie also started me off on two decades of strongly favoring Joely Richardson in any role - as I had always loved Ian Holm and Vanessa Redgrave. (I realized recently that among my several dozen favorite movies since the mid-1960s, about one quarter seem to have Ian Holm in them!).

    If you like movies like Sunday Bloody Sunday, Butley, Plenty, A Kind of Loving, Quartermaine's Terms - and I do - you'll love Wetherby. I love this movie.
    Bishonen

    Vanessa Redgrave's Eyes

    David Hare's quiet masterpiece conveys a genuine sense of alienation and dislocation while covering a great deal of social and political ground. It never loses sight of the human story, though; the loneliness of the characters comes through in this startlingly intelligent drama which unfolds slowly, like a flower under time lapse photography. We watch the bloom, flowering and eventual withering of the characters' bodies and minds over several decades of social discord, emotional disappointments and lost dreams.

    It's stunning how Hare constructs such an involving character study under the framework of a conventional mystery. The inexplicable suicide of a young man draws the viewer in but it's the characters that involve the viewer in a greater mystery of the heart; how did these people get to this point in their lives and the history of a nation? Hare delicately examines the spiritual decay of late-20th century British society and how it impacts all generations, from the haunted post-war generation to the alienated, disconnected contemporary youth. Ultimately both groups are unable to reach out to each other, trapped in the inescapable malaise which spares no-one.

    Vanessa Redgrave carries this film. In her eyes a dazzling spectrum of emotions infuse her scenes with joy, heartbreak, hopelessness, elation, and everything else in between. It's a brilliantly written film but no words are necessary to understand the despair. It's all in her eyes.
    9Rodrigo_Amaro

    An inquisitive film about the important and uncontrolling life events which modifies us for better or worse

    "Wetherby" is an intriguing wake up call to each one of us to pay more attention to life and the events surrounding it, before it gets too late and we're forced to face the facts, to see the importance people have in our lives in its quietest and small moments even though we think they're not important or they can't affect us. Because they can and life has its ways of showing how. What David Hare is saying here is that the things that matter and will change you will happen when you're distracted or least expecting it. With luck, you'll know how to react.

    In the suburb of Wetherby a casual dinner took place having as participants some upper class members, an enjoyable evening in the house of teacher Jean Travers (Vanessa Redgrave). The following day one of the guests, the mysterious John Morgan (Tim McInnerny) returns there, exposes that he wasn't known of any of the attendees - to Jean's surprise who thinks this was impossible - and then he kills himself in front of her. Such fact triggers down alternate ways: a police detective (Stuart Wilson) becomes obsessed with this strange case and decides to get some clues on why Morgan acted this way; Karen, a colleague of Morgan (Suzanne Hamilton) visits Jean informing her about the very few she knew about the young man, but she's just mysterious as he was, doesn't reveal much about herself; a minor impact on the lives of Mrs. Travers friends (Ian Holm, Judi Dench and Tom Wilkinson); and Jean remembrances of her past with her involvement with a soldier, a life changing experience. The latter, although it doesn't seem fitting and it's strangely played out to confuse audiences, is related with the suicide despite decades apart. But this in a psychological way and this movie is perfect when it comes to those terms.

    The good points: pay attention to the details and you'll love how most of it was carefully constructed but be warned, there's no easy answers and sometimes there's no answers at all, we're left to take our own conclusions about the character's actions. Redgrave and Wilson were excellent, very insightful and very believable when it comes to present a genuine state of shock, his trying to find reasonable explanations and her after seeing the tragedy (although the movie downplayed and hid her reaction after the fact, awkwardly cutting to her past without further notice). The veteran actors in the supporting roles are outstanding, creating memorable moments. The young McInnerny was an on/off kind of acting. I believed him in almost everything he did, he sure caused an impression on you with this intelligent, disturbed, apparently peaceful guy but in some scenes he was too weird, almost in a laughable way. It's a puzzling and provocative study on the human perceptions and why they're more important to some (John Morgan) than to others (almost all the other characters).

    The bad points: this was close in being a great work but so close that is a little saddening to present the following upsetting remarks. I can't complain about the story and the deep connections between different characters, time and space we have to form to understand the whole; however I felt Hare shouldn't be the one to direct this or at least he should tone down a little easier on the technical aspects. A more technical director would benefit substantially from a script like this. The fore-mentioned transition between events is an example on how to not present a story. The time leap between the two events was really odd to see, it looked like seeing another film strangely cut to later get back where it stopped, and even experienced viewers will find this problematic. Of course, not as much as the loud and melodramatic soundtrack which is completely misplaced and creates feelings and sensations that aren't there. For both cases, it was all a matter of editing problem, the way things are put together doesn't work for too long. The girl who played Karen was awful, shouting and overreacting at all times. The screenplay doesn't make of her a sympathetic character, often making her an enigma that doesn't add much to the mystery to be solved.

    Those with patience, time and eyes to see will enjoy it to the maximum and even forgive its problems. This isn't hollow, this isn't pretentious, it's just hides its points very deep like a treasure to be sought. The reward will come for those who work and think a little harder. 9/10.

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    • Anecdotes
      This movie and L'hôtel New Hampshire (1984) were the first screen roles of Joely Richardson. This movie was Richardson's first significant part in a movie.
    • Citations

      Stanley Pilborough: I remember once my father, also a solicitor, said, "I have learnt never to judge any man from his behavior with money and the opposite sex". Yet it is my own saddened experience that those are the only ways to judge him.

    • Crédits fous
      The cast credits are divided up into groups under the following headings: The Wetherby Characters; In the Past; The School; Miss Travers' Class; The Police; and From the University of Essex.
    • Connexions
      Featured in At the Movies: Godzilla 1985/Creator/Wetherby/Key Exchange (1985)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 19 juillet 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Royaume-Uni
    • Site officiel
      • Home Vision Entertainment (DVD Distributor)
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Un pasado en sombras
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Harrogate Grammar School, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, Angleterre, Royaume-Uni
    • Sociétés de production
      • Zenith Entertainment
      • Greenpoint Films
      • Film Four International
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 1 299 985 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 37 283 $US
      • 21 juil. 1985
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 1 299 985 $US
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    • Durée
      1 heure 42 minutes
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      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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