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Engrenage mortel

Titre original : That Was Then... This Is Now
  • 1985
  • R
  • 1h 42min
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6,1/10
2,8 k
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Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer in Engrenage mortel (1985)
Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueTwo juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

  • Réalisation
    • Christopher Cain
  • Scénario
    • S.E. Hinton
    • Emilio Estevez
  • Casting principal
    • Emilio Estevez
    • Craig Sheffer
    • Larry B. Scott
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,1/10
    2,8 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Christopher Cain
    • Scénario
      • S.E. Hinton
      • Emilio Estevez
    • Casting principal
      • Emilio Estevez
      • Craig Sheffer
      • Larry B. Scott
    • 33avis d'utilisateurs
    • 9avis des critiques
    • 45Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Rôles principaux23

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    Emilio Estevez
    Emilio Estevez
    • Mark Jennings
    Craig Sheffer
    Craig Sheffer
    • Bryon Douglas
    Larry B. Scott
    Larry B. Scott
    • Terry Jones
    Matthew Dudley
    • Curly Shepard
    Jill Schoelen
    Jill Schoelen
    • Angela Shepard
    Kim Delaney
    Kim Delaney
    • Cathy Carlson
    Barbara Babcock
    Barbara Babcock
    • Mrs. Douglas
    Frank Howard
    Frank Howard
    • M & M Carlson
    Morgan Freeman
    Morgan Freeman
    • Charlie Woods
    Francis X. McCarthy
    Francis X. McCarthy
    • Mr. Carlson
    • (as Frank McCarthy)
    Diane Dorsey
    • Mrs. Carlson
    Ramon Estevez
    Ramon Estevez
    • Mike Chambers
    • (as Ramon Sheen)
    David Miller
    • Punk
    Steven Pringle
    • Dirty Dave
    Robert Swan
    Robert Swan
    • Smitty
    • (as Bob Swan)
    John O'Brien
    • Snob
    Paul M. Lane
    Paul M. Lane
    • Paul
    • (as Paul Lane)
    Brooks Gardner
    Brooks Gardner
    • Tim Shepard
    • Réalisation
      • Christopher Cain
    • Scénario
      • S.E. Hinton
      • Emilio Estevez
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    Avis des utilisateurs33

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    8lauren5589

    Good, but ruined by the ending

    "That Was Then...This Is Now" followed the book relatively closely up until the last scenes. I thought the acting could have been better, and I think it would have been a better movie if they had left it in the time period the book was in. Despite this, I thought it was pretty good, and I liked it until the last few scenes. The book was so powerful and real in the last chapters- and the movie took all of this out. I thought it would have been a good ending- for a whole different movie, for "That Was Then...", it was wrong, and in my opinion ruined the movie.
    5vertigo_14

    The most mediocre of the S.E. Hinton-based adaptations. (spoilers)

    I always loved S.E. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now.

    'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). I would've attribute the mediocrity of the movie, or at least the inability to really put forth all that the novel did, was because it was not directed by Francis Ford Coppola (who directs 'The Outsiders,' and does a fabulous job with 'Rumble Fish'), except 'Tex,' which was a pretty good movie, was likewise not directed by Coppola.

    I think it is in part the chemistry among the characters. The whole mood looks like something out of a music video, with Craig Scheffer coming off more like a guy who broke off a long relationship with a girlfriend rather than dealing with a rambunctious brother (in addition to other things). Plus, as another viewer already mentioned, they shifted the focus on characters so that superstar Emilio Esteves becomes the center of attention. Most of S.E. Hinton's novel always portrayed a struggle from the brother who is looking out at things that, by his perception, have become (or always were) seriously out of control. (See 'Tex' and 'Rumble Fish'). And yes, they unfortunately acquiesced to the Hollywood happy ending, and in the sappiest way, despite all of the problems that the characters endure.

    Unlike previous adaptations of Hinton's novels, even those not directed by Coppola, they really fail to portray the struggles that the characters realize in the book. And, lack of developing the story on this point really makes you only half appreciate the characters and their conflicts (and in this case, not even their resolution).
    6bkoganbing

    What some kids carry around.

    That Was Then, This Is Now is the story of two working class youths who look like they are on a street to nowhere in their lives.

    After his parents killed themselves, Emilio Estevez is taken in by his best friend Craig Sheffer and his mom Barbara Babcock. The two of them get in all kinds of trouble. But Sheffer is starting to think that may be if I grow up their just might be a future for him.

    Estevez is carrying a lot around, many of us do and we react to it in different ways. Estevez is on the road to career criminality. He gets involved in deeper and deeper and threatens to bring Sheffer in with him if Sheffer does not heed the better angels of his nature.

    The key scene is when we learn as Estevez confides to Scheffer just what it is he's carrying inside. Some of the best acting in both their careers.

    Hollywood has done very well with S.E. Hinton novels. That Was Then This Is Now is right up there with Tex, Rumblefish. and The Outsiders. This one managed to get done without Matt Dillon.

    I recommend it highly.
    6marraeml

    Hilarious

    I read the book for this movie and it was really good and very emotional to read as the characters change. The movie how ever is so ridiculous it's funny. For some reason it was changed to the 80's instead of the 60's which completely ruined the movie for me also making the sheppards immortal by doing this. Also since in the 80's it got rid of the hippies and changed it to punks but it is hard to take people that are supposed to be mean seriously when they're wearing a mesh tank top and eyeliner. And the way it's shot is just ridiculous and very over dramatic (classic 80's) but a great movie for a great laugh if I'm being honest.
    5pierrebonomo

    Disappointment ...

    My grade 10 ESL students read the book and then watched this film version. They were not impressed at all and everyone agreed that it is not a good portrayal of the book. Some essential scenes are missing such as Mike Chamber's story which helps the reader really understand the motivation behind Bryon's change of heart. It would really have not been that difficult to just follow what was written in the book. Someone needs to be blamed for this poor excuse of a film!

    The desperate male students in the class were hoping that the Angela character would have been as hot as she is described in the book!

    Read the book instead.

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    • Anecdotes
      Emilio Estevez's original script followed the book's ending more closely. Paramount Pictures executives forced Estevez to re-write the ending to be more "optimistic" and "realistic".
    • Gaffes
      In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.
    • Citations

      Mark Jennings: Let's move out... Teabag!

    • Connexions
      Featured in Randy Wayne & Carroll Sue Hill: That Was Then, This Is Now (1985)
    • Bandes originales
      Born Alone
      Written by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan

      Performed by Kipp Lennon

      Produced by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 8 novembre 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • That Was Then... This Is Now
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Spanky's Saloon - 1066 7th St East - St. Paul, Minnesota, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Media Ventures
      • Paramount Pictures
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 8 630 068 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 2 502 780 $US
      • 10 nov. 1985
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 8 630 068 $US
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    • Durée
      • 1h 42min(102 min)
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Dolby Stereo
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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