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Lors d'une mission au Vietnam, Eriksson est sauvé par son commandant Meserve. Quand Meserve enlève une jeune villageoise, Eriksson va se battre contre tous les hommes de sa patrouille.Lors d'une mission au Vietnam, Eriksson est sauvé par son commandant Meserve. Quand Meserve enlève une jeune villageoise, Eriksson va se battre contre tous les hommes de sa patrouille.Lors d'une mission au Vietnam, Eriksson est sauvé par son commandant Meserve. Quand Meserve enlève une jeune villageoise, Eriksson va se battre contre tous les hommes de sa patrouille.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Récompenses
- 1 victoire et 5 nominations au total
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War is bloody, it's dirty, it's ugly, it's a nightmare, but what happened in "Casualties of War" wasn't war even by the most hawkish definition.
Five men, led by Sargent Meserve (Sean Penn), went on a short mission and along the way they kidnapped, r*ped, and killed a young Vietnamese woman. Of the five only four partook in the sexual assault while Pfc Eriksson (Michael J. Fox) abstained. It's hard to say what was more depressing and more disturbing: the fact that a platoon of soldiers kidnapped, r*ped, and killed a woman, the fact that the two leaders coerced Diaz (John Leguizamo) to partake and tried to coerce Eriksson, or the fact that Eriksson told his superiors and they were almost angry he mentioned it. All of these facts are immensely disturbing and I can only imagine that if this one instance did come to light, how many others stayed in darkness?
Whether you believe these men did these acts because of the war or because of something within them irrespective of the war, it was still depravity. And I got the impression that depravity was normal and tacitly approved so long as the men were good soldiers. War is no place for a conscience. It's no place for morals, manners, ethics, religion, or right and wrong. It's a place of following orders and being a good soldier. And if r*ping an innocent woman along the way will help a man be a better soldier, then so be it. It would seem that the Army would take ten Sargent Meserves over one thousand Erikssons.
This same story told by a different soldier would have you believe that Eriksson was a treacherous soldier not to be trusted. He doesn't follow orders and he's a rat. Meserve wanted all of his guys to participate in the violation of the nameless Vietnamese woman because then he could trust them all. If they were all dirty then he'd know that they were all equally guilty and they were all in the crap together. But if one of them should abstain, such as Eriksson did, then now you have someone who's not a part of the team. But how far would you be willing to go to be a part of the "team?"
As a plot, as a production, and as far as performances; this was a quality movie. Sean Penn was masterfully despicable. He played his character so well I'm sure his own mother hated him. But as much of a quality movie this was, "Casualties of War" made me sick. I was sick with anger, disgust, disappointment, sadness. This was one hard movie to watch. Some movies are hard to watch because they are so bad, yet this one was hard to watch purely because of the content.
This happened. I can watch the movie or not watch the movie. It won't change a thing. This deplorable and immeasurably depraved act happened, so why not know the truth in all its ugliness as opposed to some sugar coated version to make us all feel good about the Vietnam War and our soldiers? I think we owe it to ourselves and to the nameless faceless Vietnamese that were killed for no reason.
Five men, led by Sargent Meserve (Sean Penn), went on a short mission and along the way they kidnapped, r*ped, and killed a young Vietnamese woman. Of the five only four partook in the sexual assault while Pfc Eriksson (Michael J. Fox) abstained. It's hard to say what was more depressing and more disturbing: the fact that a platoon of soldiers kidnapped, r*ped, and killed a woman, the fact that the two leaders coerced Diaz (John Leguizamo) to partake and tried to coerce Eriksson, or the fact that Eriksson told his superiors and they were almost angry he mentioned it. All of these facts are immensely disturbing and I can only imagine that if this one instance did come to light, how many others stayed in darkness?
Whether you believe these men did these acts because of the war or because of something within them irrespective of the war, it was still depravity. And I got the impression that depravity was normal and tacitly approved so long as the men were good soldiers. War is no place for a conscience. It's no place for morals, manners, ethics, religion, or right and wrong. It's a place of following orders and being a good soldier. And if r*ping an innocent woman along the way will help a man be a better soldier, then so be it. It would seem that the Army would take ten Sargent Meserves over one thousand Erikssons.
This same story told by a different soldier would have you believe that Eriksson was a treacherous soldier not to be trusted. He doesn't follow orders and he's a rat. Meserve wanted all of his guys to participate in the violation of the nameless Vietnamese woman because then he could trust them all. If they were all dirty then he'd know that they were all equally guilty and they were all in the crap together. But if one of them should abstain, such as Eriksson did, then now you have someone who's not a part of the team. But how far would you be willing to go to be a part of the "team?"
As a plot, as a production, and as far as performances; this was a quality movie. Sean Penn was masterfully despicable. He played his character so well I'm sure his own mother hated him. But as much of a quality movie this was, "Casualties of War" made me sick. I was sick with anger, disgust, disappointment, sadness. This was one hard movie to watch. Some movies are hard to watch because they are so bad, yet this one was hard to watch purely because of the content.
This happened. I can watch the movie or not watch the movie. It won't change a thing. This deplorable and immeasurably depraved act happened, so why not know the truth in all its ugliness as opposed to some sugar coated version to make us all feel good about the Vietnam War and our soldiers? I think we owe it to ourselves and to the nameless faceless Vietnamese that were killed for no reason.
This is a true story of what happens in war when morality and ethics are tossed aside. The killing that is involved in war gets mixed up with murder, bigotry, and revenge in this factual horror story.
Fox is excellent as the naive but ethical young man exposed to a "Nobody cares" atmosphere in the midst of war. The film not only shows what can happen to human beings when they let go of any sense of conscience, but it is also a metaphor of the amoral mentality that was behind the Viet Nam conflict and its aftermath.
The struggle depicted here is between going along with the group or maintaining one's own integrity. Are there rules of war? Are there rules of living? These are the profound questions which underlie the action in this disturbing film.
Fox is excellent as the naive but ethical young man exposed to a "Nobody cares" atmosphere in the midst of war. The film not only shows what can happen to human beings when they let go of any sense of conscience, but it is also a metaphor of the amoral mentality that was behind the Viet Nam conflict and its aftermath.
The struggle depicted here is between going along with the group or maintaining one's own integrity. Are there rules of war? Are there rules of living? These are the profound questions which underlie the action in this disturbing film.
Although Platoon may have gotten more acclaim, by far the best film on the Vietnam War is this one. Casualties Of War is going to leave Platoon way in the dust when history has its verdict.
Though Sean Penn's got several great films to his credit, by far this is the best work of Michael J. Fox on the big screen. His soldier with a conscious who can't live with himself after witnessing an act of barbarity that the other men of his squad commit should have brought him an Oscar nomination. In fact there could have and should have been a few of them for this film.
Fox plays a young soldier only a few weeks in Vietnam. On patrol Sergeant Sean Penn saves his life, but then on a second patrol because Penn and friends could not get leave to bleed the lizard as they say, they kidnap a young Vietnamese woman and take her on patrol. All the men on the patrol, Penn, Don Harvey, John C. Reilly, and John Leguizamo all gang rape the girl, but Fox refuses. Later on he's got a crisis of conscience.
Kids who grew up on World War II movies and westerns with clearly defined good and bad guys were ill prepared for a war in Vietnam. So was our government which had been involved in more or less degree since the end of World War II and the breakup of French Indochina. The subtleties of the regional politics eluded our policy makers in Washington. It was mighty hard to tell who was a friend and who was an enemy. You treated anyone with a yellowish pigmentation and slanted eyes as an enemy, the only friends you knew were the ones wearing the same green jungle fatigues as you were.
The war twisted Penn and Harvey. Leguizamo and Reilly were essentially followers, only Fox who hadn't been there long enough to have his sense of morality impaired could see this was all wrong. That's the frightening part of Casualties Of War. None of the four could see anything wrong, even Leguizamo who sees his first duty as to stick with the guys who have your back in the field.
As good as Fox and Penn and the rest of the Occidental cast is, the best performance in the film is Thuy Thu Lee. As the bewildered and frightened young girl she will positively break your heart with her one and only film performance.
Casualties Of War was shot in Thailand so we're seeing actual Southeast Asia locations. Brian DePalma's direction of his stellar cast is right on target. Don't ever miss Casualties Of War about the ultimate Vietnam experience.
Though Sean Penn's got several great films to his credit, by far this is the best work of Michael J. Fox on the big screen. His soldier with a conscious who can't live with himself after witnessing an act of barbarity that the other men of his squad commit should have brought him an Oscar nomination. In fact there could have and should have been a few of them for this film.
Fox plays a young soldier only a few weeks in Vietnam. On patrol Sergeant Sean Penn saves his life, but then on a second patrol because Penn and friends could not get leave to bleed the lizard as they say, they kidnap a young Vietnamese woman and take her on patrol. All the men on the patrol, Penn, Don Harvey, John C. Reilly, and John Leguizamo all gang rape the girl, but Fox refuses. Later on he's got a crisis of conscience.
Kids who grew up on World War II movies and westerns with clearly defined good and bad guys were ill prepared for a war in Vietnam. So was our government which had been involved in more or less degree since the end of World War II and the breakup of French Indochina. The subtleties of the regional politics eluded our policy makers in Washington. It was mighty hard to tell who was a friend and who was an enemy. You treated anyone with a yellowish pigmentation and slanted eyes as an enemy, the only friends you knew were the ones wearing the same green jungle fatigues as you were.
The war twisted Penn and Harvey. Leguizamo and Reilly were essentially followers, only Fox who hadn't been there long enough to have his sense of morality impaired could see this was all wrong. That's the frightening part of Casualties Of War. None of the four could see anything wrong, even Leguizamo who sees his first duty as to stick with the guys who have your back in the field.
As good as Fox and Penn and the rest of the Occidental cast is, the best performance in the film is Thuy Thu Lee. As the bewildered and frightened young girl she will positively break your heart with her one and only film performance.
Casualties Of War was shot in Thailand so we're seeing actual Southeast Asia locations. Brian DePalma's direction of his stellar cast is right on target. Don't ever miss Casualties Of War about the ultimate Vietnam experience.
Casualties of War shows that war can be ugly for more than the obvious reasons. A great dramatic piece by Brian De Palma.
The good. Excellent score. Once past the intro, powerful mood. Riveting story. Well built scenario, very logical and nicely paced. Emotionally disturbing.
The actors. Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn are just perfect as antagonist. Don Harvey fits his crazy role very well. John C. Reilly plays the simpleton with convincing clarity. And I'll just mention in passing a good performance by Ving Rhames.
The bad. The initial jungle scenes lack realism, as well as some over-acting by the black guy in the first part.
The ugly. Nothing.
The result. An emotional and brutal movie. Not for the faint of heart.
The good. Excellent score. Once past the intro, powerful mood. Riveting story. Well built scenario, very logical and nicely paced. Emotionally disturbing.
The actors. Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn are just perfect as antagonist. Don Harvey fits his crazy role very well. John C. Reilly plays the simpleton with convincing clarity. And I'll just mention in passing a good performance by Ving Rhames.
The bad. The initial jungle scenes lack realism, as well as some over-acting by the black guy in the first part.
The ugly. Nothing.
The result. An emotional and brutal movie. Not for the faint of heart.
CASUALTIES OF WAR
Aspect ratio: 2.39:1 (Panavision)
Sound format: 6-track Dolby Stereo
(35mm and 70mm release prints)
During a routine field trip at the height of the Vietnam War, a young soldier (Michael J. Fox) rebels against his commanding officer (Sean Penn) and other members of his patrol when they kidnap a defenceless Vietnamese girl (Thuy Thu Le) and subject her to a terrifying physical ordeal.
Unfairly overshadowed by the simultaneous theatrical release of Oliver Stone's pompous - but still impressive - BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY (1989), Brian DePalma's CASUALTIES OF WAR recreates a harrowing incident from the Vietnam conflict - first reported in 'New Yorker' magazine in 1969 - in which a group of otherwise decent men succumbed to their own worst impulses and committed a terrible crime. Filmed with typical cinematic bravado by master craftsman DePalma, the movie uses every inch of the scope frame to convey both the duality of the landscape (vast swathes of breathtaking countryside, where sudden death lurks around every corner) and the moral vacuum which stretches the two central characters (Fox and Penn) to breaking point. Crafted with blistering simplicity by screenwriter David Rabe (himself a Vietnam veteran and author of the acclaimed stageplay 'Streamers'), the soldiers are depicted as brave individuals whose principles are shattered by their traumatic combat experiences, leaving Fox to essay the role of peacemaker in a world where all the rules have been turned upside down. Thuy - a model with no prior acting experience - is truly heartbreaking as the soldiers' terrified prisoner, and her ultimate fate is so horrific (arguably the most disturbing set-piece of this director's entire career), many viewers will be too appalled to see the film through to its inevitable conclusion. All in all, this uncompromising drama emerges as one of DePalma's strongest films to date.
Aspect ratio: 2.39:1 (Panavision)
Sound format: 6-track Dolby Stereo
(35mm and 70mm release prints)
During a routine field trip at the height of the Vietnam War, a young soldier (Michael J. Fox) rebels against his commanding officer (Sean Penn) and other members of his patrol when they kidnap a defenceless Vietnamese girl (Thuy Thu Le) and subject her to a terrifying physical ordeal.
Unfairly overshadowed by the simultaneous theatrical release of Oliver Stone's pompous - but still impressive - BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY (1989), Brian DePalma's CASUALTIES OF WAR recreates a harrowing incident from the Vietnam conflict - first reported in 'New Yorker' magazine in 1969 - in which a group of otherwise decent men succumbed to their own worst impulses and committed a terrible crime. Filmed with typical cinematic bravado by master craftsman DePalma, the movie uses every inch of the scope frame to convey both the duality of the landscape (vast swathes of breathtaking countryside, where sudden death lurks around every corner) and the moral vacuum which stretches the two central characters (Fox and Penn) to breaking point. Crafted with blistering simplicity by screenwriter David Rabe (himself a Vietnam veteran and author of the acclaimed stageplay 'Streamers'), the soldiers are depicted as brave individuals whose principles are shattered by their traumatic combat experiences, leaving Fox to essay the role of peacemaker in a world where all the rules have been turned upside down. Thuy - a model with no prior acting experience - is truly heartbreaking as the soldiers' terrified prisoner, and her ultimate fate is so horrific (arguably the most disturbing set-piece of this director's entire career), many viewers will be too appalled to see the film through to its inevitable conclusion. All in all, this uncompromising drama emerges as one of DePalma's strongest films to date.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesFor Michael J. Fox's shots, Sean Penn would be telling him that he was just a little television actor and nothing more, to get genuine reactions for director Brian De Palma.
- GaffesDuring the firefight on the bridge, after intense firing, one soldier reaches over to pull another soldier to get started down the bridge by grabbing the muzzle of his gun. That act would create severe burns on his palm.
- Crédits fousA mid-credits update is presented on Hatcher, explaining that his conviction was overturned.
- Versions alternativesThe Extended Cut is 6 minutes longer than the original and contains 2 extra scenes.
- Bandes originalesEverybody Loves Somebody
Written by Irving Taylor & Ken Lane
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Langues
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Pecados de Guerra
- Lieux de tournage
- Dolores Park, San Francisco, Californie, États-Unis(where Eriksson gets off the train at the end)
- Sociétés de production
- Voir plus de crédits d'entreprise sur IMDbPro
Box-office
- Budget
- 22 500 000 $US (estimé)
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 18 671 317 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 5 201 261 $US
- 20 août 1989
- Montant brut mondial
- 18 671 317 $US
- Durée1 heure 53 minutes
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 2.39 : 1
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