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Les uns et les autres

  • 1981
  • 3h 4min
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7,3/10
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Les uns et les autres (1981)
DrameMusique

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueThe intertwined lives of three generations of musicians and dancers from Russia, Germany, France and the U.S., from before World War II through the war and the Holocaust, to the 1980s.The intertwined lives of three generations of musicians and dancers from Russia, Germany, France and the U.S., from before World War II through the war and the Holocaust, to the 1980s.The intertwined lives of three generations of musicians and dancers from Russia, Germany, France and the U.S., from before World War II through the war and the Holocaust, to the 1980s.

  • Réalisation
    • Claude Lelouch
  • Scénario
    • Claude Lelouch
  • Casting principal
    • Robert Hossein
    • Nicole Garcia
    • Geraldine Chaplin
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    • Réalisation
      • Claude Lelouch
    • Scénario
      • Claude Lelouch
    • Casting principal
      • Robert Hossein
      • Nicole Garcia
      • Geraldine Chaplin
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    • 12avis des critiques
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    • Récompenses
      • 1 victoire et 6 nominations au total

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    Robert Hossein
    Robert Hossein
    • Simon Meyer…
    Nicole Garcia
    Nicole Garcia
    • Anne Meyer
    Geraldine Chaplin
    Geraldine Chaplin
    • Suzan…
    Daniel Olbrychski
    Daniel Olbrychski
    • Karl Kremer
    Jorge Donn
    • Boris & Sergei Itovitch…
    Rita Poelvoorde
    • Tatiana & Tania Itovitch
    Macha Méril
    Macha Méril
    • Magda Kremer
    Evelyne Bouix
    • Evelyne…
    Francis Huster
    Francis Huster
    • Francis
    Raymond Pellegrin
    Raymond Pellegrin
    • M. Raymond
    Paul Préboist
    Paul Préboist
    • Le grand-père d'Edith
    Jean-Claude Brialy
    Jean-Claude Brialy
    • Le directeur du Lido
    Marthe Villalonga
    Marthe Villalonga
    • La grand-mère d'Edith
    Fanny Ardant
    Fanny Ardant
    • Véronique
    Jacques Villeret
    Jacques Villeret
    • Jacques
    Jean-Claude Bouttier
    • Philippe Rouget
    Richard Bohringer
    Richard Bohringer
    • Richard
    Nicole Croisille
    • Nicole Croisille
    • Réalisation
      • Claude Lelouch
    • Scénario
      • Claude Lelouch
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    jrippey

    Fine Work

    Just viewed this movie on a DVD from Netflix. This movie is what a motion picture can be in the hands of an intelligent and talented director.

    The photography was wonderful, the use of color was spectacular, the sound was excellent, and the music and performances were top notch. I especially liked the full symphony orchestra segments and the American big band segments. The Folies-type musical numbers were also done with flair, and Geraldine Chaplin proved herself to be a classy cabaret singer (assuming her voice wasn't dubbed). Michel Legrand I believe was responsible for the music, which was first rate throughout.

    All production values were of the highest order.

    The final dance sequence, which lasted far longer than anything Hollywood would permit, was phenomenal; the late Jorge Donn was not Nureyev, but spectacular all the same. The robustness and uncompromisingly balletic style of the finale put the ballet sequences in a couple of American movies--American In Paris and Carousel-- in the shade.

    Released in the U.S. as Bolero, apparently. Without car chases, explosions, etc., I doubt if it did very well at the box office over here.
    10Guy33134

    One of the greatest WW II epic masterpieces EVER!

    Well, I'm obviously not alone in saying this is the best, the greatest, the finest movie, etc. So what's with the rating? Again, as in many cases of movies with few votes, a small group skews the score to a ridiculous level. I saw this masterpiece in Paris when it came out in the early 1980's, and went back to see it the nest day. It was too much exquisite detail to take in during one sole session. The development of the characters, interwoven into the fabric of tragedy that was the war, the haunting Bolero by Ravel. Devastingly beautiful touching, and grand. Since this film, Lelouche (A MAN AND A WOMAN, LES MISERABLES (1994) has made a few films touching on his autobiographical experiences as a young Jew, during the Holocaust. This movie was made before there were dozens of them to compare to, like Lelouche's own perhaps just as good LES MIS... with Jean-Paul Belmondo. Having lived in France, I know there are many cinephiles who just outright hate Lelouche. These feelings, as I have experienced them, are thinly-veiled anti-semitic feelings. Say, it may be an "artsy" way of saying I'm an anti-semite: J'aime pas Lelouche. I think this is why this movie is undeservedly ranked so low in this base. I came across, and voted on it a while back, precisely because the rating shocked me so. As I went through the comments though today, I was happy to see I was not alone, and thought I would throw my "ten francs worth" in. I want to buy it for my collection.
    dbdumonteil

    A cathedral made of matchsticks

    First thing to bear in mind is that like Hossein's "les Miserables" or Enrico's "Au Nom de Tous les Miens",the movie which was theatrically released is a digest of a miniseries ,the running time of which exceeded six hours.In three hours,there are too many characters ,and Lelouch uses the same thespians to portray the parents and the children (Chaplin,Caan,Bouix...)which sometimes is a mess.But it's Hossein who gets the biscuit:even "made look younger" ,he was 54 at the time and it's impossible to believe he is a soldier coming back from the Algeria war.

    It can be looked upon as a musical ,but the only musical sequence which is really awesome is Ravel's bolero where the four (French,Russian,German and American) families prove us (as if we did not understand) that it's better making music than making war.Thank you and God bless you all.

    That said ,there's that optimistic bourgeois side in Lelouch's movies;it's so glaring here that it becomes sometimes unbearable.With a few exceptions (Garcia's husband,the girl who used to play around with the Germans,victims of war),it's a success story.We deal with educated brilliant people whose career will take them to megastardom after the war.There's a French film made up of sketches called "Retour à la vie" which depicted the fates of four men and a woman after WW2.Their future was not so bright: the concentration camps ,it's not a thing you forget overnight.You are going to say,Nicole Garcia ends up in an insane asylum.Probably but long after the war.In "Retour à la vie" Aunt Anna was so weak and so traumatized she could not utter one word.

    The cast is admittedly impressive.But if the leads were not played by celebrities such as James Caan,Geraldine Chaplin or Fanny Ardant,we would be lost in a terrible mess.Ansd sometimes I must confess I do not know if it's the father (mother) or the son (daughter).And Lelouch spared us the third generation (they are still brats).To think that the last part of "Toute une Vie" (1974) another extravaganza which spanned a century,the last part was pure sci-fi and took us down to the future world! Les uns will like.Les autres won't.
    willie-14

    Best seen in original version

    I saw this film when it first came out in Paris. It was a great experience! An epic sweep, not unlike *Gone With the Wind* or *Children of Paradise*. But the American release, titled *Bolero*, had about 20-30 minutes cut from it and it was a disjointed mess. Small wonder it bombed here. The video release is of the American version. If at all possible, try to see the original, 3 hour release.
    10talltale-1

    The GONE WITH THE WIND of WWII Epics

    Wow. I had seen a pared-down version of this amazing film when it was called BOLERO a decade or two back. Now that I have seen the uncut film, I'm in awe. As I grow older I seem to appreciate Claude Lelouch more and more. This one may be his masterpiece. Weaving together three generations and four families (German, French, American and Russian), the writer/director manages to run the gamut from wildly romantic to elegantly subdued (note the distanced reconciliation scene between mother and son late in the film) offering up whatever is called for at a given moment. Music is paramount to this movie--it is ever-present and holds the diverse threads together. The cast is amazing, too. What a coup. This is the kind of film I'll recommend to everyone, and now that it is out on DVD, movie lovers are all the luckier for it.

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    • Anecdotes
      Francis Lai: The composer appears as the blind accordion player.
    • Gaffes
      (at around 1h 21 mins) The soldiers are playing cards on the train and the game they are playing changes between shots.
    • Crédits fous
      The grand majority of the opening credits are spoken by the narrator. The narrator stops after crediting the choreographer. Only the film's production company, title and the name Claude Lelouch appear in writing before the Bolero dance at the opening (when the writing is onscreen, the orchestra is warming up). Also, a quote by Willa Cather appears at the very beginning.
    • Versions alternatives
      Presented on French television in a 6 hours version quite clearer then the shortened American release. Richard Bohringer and Fanny Ardant's characters, for example, are better developed.
    • Connexions
      Edited into Les uns et les autres (1981)
    • Bandes originales
      Folies Bergère
      Music by Francis Lai

      Lyrics by Boris Bergman

      Performed by Catherine Russell and Ginette Garcin

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    • How long is Bolero?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 27 mai 1981 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
    • Sites officiels
      • Les Films 13 (France)
      • StudioCanal International (France)
    • Langues
      • Français
      • Anglais
      • Allemand
      • Russe
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Bolero
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Garancières, Yvelines, France(Railway crossing and station scene)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Les Films 13
      • TF1
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    • Durée
      • 3h 4min(184 min)
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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