Ragtime
- 1981
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- 2h 35min
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Un jeune pianiste noir s'embarque dans la vie d'une famille blanche de la haute bourgeoisie parmi les tensions raciales, l'infidélité, la violence et autres événements nostalgiques du début ... Tout lireUn jeune pianiste noir s'embarque dans la vie d'une famille blanche de la haute bourgeoisie parmi les tensions raciales, l'infidélité, la violence et autres événements nostalgiques du début des années 1900 à New York.Un jeune pianiste noir s'embarque dans la vie d'une famille blanche de la haute bourgeoisie parmi les tensions raciales, l'infidélité, la violence et autres événements nostalgiques du début des années 1900 à New York.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Nommé pour 8 Oscars
- 2 victoires et 22 nominations au total
Jeffrey DeMunn
- Houdini
- (as Jeff Demunn)
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But rather at the turn of the Century, in the 'ought years. That is not a quibble, since a good part of the interest of this movie is based upon its serving as a fairly rare window into life in that period. Whereas, there are skads of movies set in the 30's, and a fair number set in the 20s (in addition to the silents of that era), as the plot summary and some user comments erroneously have the movie era.
Stanford White, America's greatest architect and one of New York's leading figures at the time, was murdered in 1906 -- which is of course the beginning date of this movie. It ends with war being declared as announced by a newspaper headline -- WWI of course. Which marked the end of the era.
Stanford White, America's greatest architect and one of New York's leading figures at the time, was murdered in 1906 -- which is of course the beginning date of this movie. It ends with war being declared as announced by a newspaper headline -- WWI of course. Which marked the end of the era.
'Ragtime' by E.L. Doctorow was one of those important ground breaking books.
It deserved a better translation to film. Having read the book numerous times over the years, what struck me about the film was that it was largely undecipherable if you had not first read the book. The book is a rich tapestry of American society, its values, behaviour and so on of the day. The film focuses on 2 sub-plots only - Nesbit Thaw and Coalhouse Walker Jr. The character - mother's Younger Brother was largely sacrificed - this introverted complex character - was portrayed only as Nesbit-Thaw's lover and a terrorist - with no development of how he became to be these. The relationship between Father and Mother too was badly handled, especially the Mother's leaving with the Russian film maker (silhouette artist).
The film simply does not even begin to scratch this surface. The film is a major disappointment.
It deserved a better translation to film. Having read the book numerous times over the years, what struck me about the film was that it was largely undecipherable if you had not first read the book. The book is a rich tapestry of American society, its values, behaviour and so on of the day. The film focuses on 2 sub-plots only - Nesbit Thaw and Coalhouse Walker Jr. The character - mother's Younger Brother was largely sacrificed - this introverted complex character - was portrayed only as Nesbit-Thaw's lover and a terrorist - with no development of how he became to be these. The relationship between Father and Mother too was badly handled, especially the Mother's leaving with the Russian film maker (silhouette artist).
The film simply does not even begin to scratch this surface. The film is a major disappointment.
This a truly terrific period piece directed by Milos Forman(Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus) and starring terrific cast. The film takes place in the very early 1900's and follows the lives of at least four different people/families. As the movie gets going, it begins to focus mostly on an African American man and his struggle to be heard in society after he is mistreated by a group of firemen. Everything that follows is equally powerful and fascinating as the man tries to find justice in the turn of the century America. This fine film is richly textured with turn of the century atmosphere, music and actual newsreels from the period which all contribute to this fascinating story. Also nice to see James Cagney one more time. This is a film that I would recommend to anyone who is interested in what life was like at the turn of century. A fantastic film. ***3/4 out of ****.
1906, to be specific, is when Stanford White was shot -- which of course marks the beginning date bookmark of the movie.
The "declaration of war" -- WW I -- as announced in a Newspaper headline at the end of the film, bookmarks the end of the movie -- and of the era.
Not trivial points, since a good part of the interest of this movie lies it it's serving as a relatively rare window into this period. Which unlike the 1930s or the 1920s which the plot summary and first comment confuse it with, is not a period which is much portrayed in film.
I'd say it's a pretty good, although not great, "costume" film. The first half is much stronger than the second half, both in historical interest and in character development.
Worth seeing though. Perhaps try seeing it right after "Age of Innocence", which is set primarily in the New York of the 1870s (although entirely among the upper upper class, instead of the somewhat broader class look, and city/near country look of Ragtime).
The "declaration of war" -- WW I -- as announced in a Newspaper headline at the end of the film, bookmarks the end of the movie -- and of the era.
Not trivial points, since a good part of the interest of this movie lies it it's serving as a relatively rare window into this period. Which unlike the 1930s or the 1920s which the plot summary and first comment confuse it with, is not a period which is much portrayed in film.
I'd say it's a pretty good, although not great, "costume" film. The first half is much stronger than the second half, both in historical interest and in character development.
Worth seeing though. Perhaps try seeing it right after "Age of Innocence", which is set primarily in the New York of the 1870s (although entirely among the upper upper class, instead of the somewhat broader class look, and city/near country look of Ragtime).
I finished reading Doctorow's novel just before it was announced that production had started on the movie. I remember thinking, "How the hell do you make a movie of a book where the central characters are named 'Mother,' 'Father,' and 'Mother's Younger Brother?'"
Milos Forman showed how: In a word, beautifully.
And "Ragtime" is beautiful, stunning in its recreation of early 1900s New York, utilizing a script which somehow ties together the central events and their effects on its main characters as well as one of the finest, most haunting soundtracks (Randy Newman, who went so far as to compose several original 'ragtime' numbers) in the past twenty years, topped off with a first-rate cast.
James Cagney was the big news, of course, and deservedly so: Emerging from twenty years of retirement, he showed that he'd not only not lost anything but had added to his expertise. Add Mary Steenburgen, Mandy Patinkin, James Olsen, Howard Rollins, Keith McMillan and even Elizabeth McGovern (each of them perfectly cast), to name but a few, and you see where Forman wasn't missing a bet.
"Ragtime" suffers, ultimately, due to lapses in editing -- the most grievous lapse the cutting of a short scene which explains Commissioner Waldo's motivation behind the action he ultimately takes with Coalhouse Walker. Some cuts are always necessarily (especially in a movie as sprawling as this), yet that cut -- and several others -- flaw this beauty of a film.
But not fatally. Not at all. More than twenty years later, "Ragtime" is still gorgeous.
Milos Forman showed how: In a word, beautifully.
And "Ragtime" is beautiful, stunning in its recreation of early 1900s New York, utilizing a script which somehow ties together the central events and their effects on its main characters as well as one of the finest, most haunting soundtracks (Randy Newman, who went so far as to compose several original 'ragtime' numbers) in the past twenty years, topped off with a first-rate cast.
James Cagney was the big news, of course, and deservedly so: Emerging from twenty years of retirement, he showed that he'd not only not lost anything but had added to his expertise. Add Mary Steenburgen, Mandy Patinkin, James Olsen, Howard Rollins, Keith McMillan and even Elizabeth McGovern (each of them perfectly cast), to name but a few, and you see where Forman wasn't missing a bet.
"Ragtime" suffers, ultimately, due to lapses in editing -- the most grievous lapse the cutting of a short scene which explains Commissioner Waldo's motivation behind the action he ultimately takes with Coalhouse Walker. Some cuts are always necessarily (especially in a movie as sprawling as this), yet that cut -- and several others -- flaw this beauty of a film.
But not fatally. Not at all. More than twenty years later, "Ragtime" is still gorgeous.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesJames Cagney had been advised by his doctors and caregivers that making a film at this point in his life was very important for his health. The actor never flew, so he and his wife took an ocean liner to London, where his scenes were filmed. Despite his numerous infirmities, he stayed on-set during his fellow actors' closeups to give them line readings.
- GaffesCharles W. Fairbanks was not Vice President when he ran with Theodore Roosevelt in 1904. He was a Senator from Indiana, chosen as Roosevelt's running mate that year. Roosevelt was William McKinley's Vice President; he became president when McKinley was assassinated, and had no Vice President for his first term.
- Citations
Coalhouse Walker Jr.: I read music so good, white folks think I'm fakin' it.
- Versions alternativesA work print version was included on the film's US Blu-ray release in 2021. It runs 19 minutes longer than the theatrical version.
- ConnexionsFeatured in James Cagney: That Yankee Doodle Dandy (1981)
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Langue
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Ragtime. Tiempo tempestuoso
- Lieux de tournage
- 81 West Main Street, Mt. Kisco, New York, États-Unis(as Ragtime Victorian mansion)
- Sociétés de production
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Box-office
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 14 920 781 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 151 351 $US
- 22 nov. 1981
- Montant brut mondial
- 14 920 781 $US
- Durée2 heures 35 minutes
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 2.39 : 1
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